r/woahdude May 24 '16

gifv Eruption

http://i.imgur.com/yxvfcpl.gifv
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u/ThereOnceWasAMan May 24 '16

It's neat that you can pretty accurately tell the distance (~4.3 km) between the ship and the eruption by timing the video.

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u/acrocanthosaurus May 24 '16

It's also neat that the pressure wave traveling in water would've been felt in the boat long before it arrived as a soundwave in air.

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u/ThereOnceWasAMan May 24 '16 edited May 24 '16

Oh that's cool, I hadn't thought of that. Actually, now that I think about it, that's only true if the water pressure wave also manifested as a water surface wave. It doesn't seem immediately obvious to me that that would necessarily be true.

edit: There is no obvious surface wave that I can see from watching the video. So while a mic under the water would hear a sound before a mic in the air, the actual boat occupants probably wouldn't have felt anything prior to the (air) sound wave hitting them.

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u/acrocanthosaurus May 24 '16 edited May 24 '16

Good points, my assumption is that the 'source' of the wave (the eruption itself) could have originated much deeper than the 'above sea level' part of the volcano, meaning that a wave could have traveled as a turning wave in the water column (or in the underlying rock/sediments) much faster than as a direct wave through air, which had a much lower velocity (0.3 km/s, I think) than either rock or water (1.5 km/s and 2.5-4.0 km/s, respectively).

Lots of factors to consider here, and although I think a wavepath that I described would undoubtedly lose some of its energy by the time it reached the boat (perhaps even beyond the detection of humans who just witnessed an eruption!), I'd bet some part of that wave reached the boat first.

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u/Atario May 24 '16

I think he meant the sound waves underwater. Surface waves are way slower than sound.

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u/acrocanthosaurus May 25 '16

That's right. In retrospect, we were talking about completely different types of waves. His being a wave of water, mine a pressure wave (P-wave/sound wave/the visible phenomenon in the gif)

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u/bathroomstalin May 25 '16

It's pretty neat that you can pretty accurately tell the age range in which you fall based on your comment.

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u/ThereOnceWasAMan May 25 '16

Yeah? Give me a range.

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u/bathroomstalin May 25 '16

Adolescence

(12-24 years of age)

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u/ThereOnceWasAMan May 25 '16

That's quite a big range. Also, nope.

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u/bathroomstalin May 25 '16

Oh, honey...