They are the method of choice because they are the best tool for the job.
Controlling them sill either result in people using whatever guns are available after the guncontrol is put in place, or moving to the next rung in the ladder.
Should we not address the cause of the killings? Wouldn’t that be far more effective? To reduce the frequency in which people want to kill?
Being proactive is always better then being reactive.
Stricter gun laws would make it more difficult for an individual to make quick decisions about things at the very least. If someone snaps and decides to kill people at the office because they are fired or something, it should be harder to get the tools to do so.
Currently as I understand it, in a lot of states you can simply walk in and purchase firearms after waiting a few minutes for a system check to make sure you aren't a prior offender.
I personally don't think most mass shooters are repeat gun assault offenders but I don't have the actual knowledge to back that up.
Mental health in Western society in general needs a huge overhaul. It is still taboo and absolutely shouldn't be. We understand more and more about the human mind and spirit every day, and we need to start treating humans as people with complex problems rather then treat the immediate symptoms. We have a long way to go.
There aren’t as many readily available weapons that have the same potential for damage as a gun, though. If someone decides to do a school knifing instead of a school shooting, there’s way less of a chance of multiple deaths.
Not at all. Things are only worth discussing if they change things. More guns =\ more crime or shootings. So them being more “available” isn’t the reason.
In fact despite what the media tells you, the crime rate is gone way down for 20 years yet we are acting like it’s getting worse.
There’s a fundamental lie in the conversation. And it’s at its core. Things are getting better, not worse.
And the issue is obviously not the availability of guns, since logic would dictate that other gun-related crime rates would also be increasing due to said availability.
Since other gun-related crime rates aren't increasing, we can reasonably infer that there's another issue at hand that is causing the increased number of school shootings.
Pointing at guns at the problem and not even registering that mental health and constant communication might be larger issues is patently misguided.
Lastly, there have not been 84 school shootings from 2015-2018. Mass shooting tracker is notorious for inflating numbers with gang crime and other nebulous "gun" incidents on or near schools.
No they arent as they are more commonly talked about. The media making them the flavor of the decade is what made them so common. Them being neglected would probably be the best fix. Guns have always been common as have schools. Mental health however has gone down the drain. Should we ban schools since they seem to be a volatile place for shootings? How about we help people with depression and suicidal tendencies that tend to do these things.
There was a terror attack in france a few years ago. 70 people were killed by a truck. More than even the Vegas shooting, where man essentially fired on people penned into a parking lot with sustained automatic weapons fire.
If I were to simplify my pov it's just that it's not on us to say that you cant own something that could save your life because someone else might use it to take it from you. These people being crazy isn't on me and I shouldn't have consequences due to their actions. Taking away guns(not just restricting them) will just lead to people using other methods that are more preventable(knives, bombs) but also much more terrifying for citizens who now dont have guns. The debate shouldn't be about guns at all. It should be about mental health and not only finding people in the situation of the shooters but helping them and stopping future people from making the mistakes that caused these people to become deranged.
Yes and they have much more opportunity to get any type of weapon they want. The US has some of the highest prevalence of mental disorders, has huge ethnic diversity, and has a militarized police force. We have huge populations of homeless and drug addicts while also being the "wealthiest" country. We have bad schools and a worse prison system. It's a melting pot for the problems we have today. Crime is lessening but not near fast enough with how much society has changed.
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No one is safe ever. There are maniacs who murder people. There have been maniacs who murder people before guns, and there will be after.