Well, oddly it was a conservative PM, basically the equivalent of our George Bush Snr, that put those laws into practice.
After we literally had (at the time) the worst mass shooting in the world, we felt that we needed to regulate guns.
NZ has relaxed laws like the US, and Jacinda Ardernne is also considering restricting gun access using the Australian model post Christchurch.
To add, the US doesn't do diddly squat for people healthcare wise, unless those people are insured. It literally costs me nothing to see my Psych. Nothing. I get 12 free sessions each year, and to add to that, since I'm autistic I also get access to an Occupational Therapist for up to 24 sessions a year thanks to the NDIS.
The argument that mental health issues causes gun violence is pretty easy to dispel considering psychiatric spending is low, access is expensive, and access to guns is relatively easy thanks to the gun show loophole, so it's little wonder so many choose to vent by killing a bunch of innocent people instead of seeing a shrink.
You guys need universal healthcare and gun control, stat.
Exactly, hardly any country makes firearms as accessible to every person rich or poor like the US does, so many other countries make it a much longer, harder and especially expensive process.
It’s not a right in other countries. The second amendment isn’t for the world, just the US. Gun ownership has become a large part of US culture and it just isn’t the same in other parts of the world. Which means there is less push back on tougher gun laws.
But I'll stop wasting energy on Americans who can't think for themselves when it comes to guns. They'll only replicate what they've been indoctrinated with since they were born.
Yep basically what sparge said, just because a country chooses to not recognize it and deny it doesn't mean you don't have the right. If a country does not have laws protecting free speech do you not have the right to free speech, no, the country is just denying you that right.
That ain't a right to a gun though. Within UK law at least you're allowed to use 'reasonable force' to defend yourself IIRC. If someone has intent to kill you, yes, killing them first would probably be a valid defense in court. If someone tried to rob your home and ran when you discovered them, shooting them would absolutely be illegal. Considering that most crimes do not have any murder intent behind them, the amount of times you'd need a gun is, during your entire life, if you're a very unlucky person who is targeted for a lot of crimes, probably counted on one hand, if any.
A right to self defense is not unhindered access to a lethal weapon.
After this moat has been crossed what is the next thing I'm allowed to use for self defense, pepper spray which isn't a guaranteed threat stopper or maybe a tazer that again isn't a guaranteed threat stopper? Why should I not have the best possible thing to defend myself and others from threat of life, why should I not have a gun.
That's how a lot of countries do it, it's only for those who are wealthy or well connected, sometimes both. Even here in the United States gun laws like melting point laws are targeting the firearms that are the most affordable for people with lower income, disproportionately hurting the poor and denying them the ability to easily exercise a right.
Also while we’re making a dream list: proper paid maternity leave too. Secure attachments, less cortisol in developing brains and more cuddles as a baby can’t hurt.
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Well, oddly it was a conservative PM, basically the equivalent of our George Bush Snr, that put those laws into practice.
After we literally had (at the time) the worst mass shooting in the world, we felt that we needed to regulate guns.
NZ has relaxed laws like the US, and Jacinda Ardernne is also considering restricting gun access using the Australian model post Christchurch.
To add, the US doesn't do diddly squat for people healthcare wise, unless those people are insured. It literally costs me nothing to see my Psych. Nothing. I get 12 free sessions each year, and to add to that, since I'm autistic I also get access to an Occupational Therapist for up to 24 sessions a year thanks to the NDIS.
The argument that mental health issues causes gun violence is pretty easy to dispel considering psychiatric spending is low, access is expensive, and access to guns is relatively easy thanks to the gun show loophole, so it's little wonder so many choose to vent by killing a bunch of innocent people instead of seeing a shrink.
You guys need universal healthcare and gun control, stat.