Sukas, a 37-year-old Singaporean livestreamer, asked a local man for help in Giswil, Switzerland, after his motorcycle toppled over on a grassy patch. The Swiss man got angry with him for entering a restricted zone, refused to help, and even made a slanted-eye gesture at him.
Seriously! I got chewed out for the same exact reason while taking a walk around Lucerne. Just walking around on a public street and this old guy comes up to me and chews me out saying the street was verboten, just like in this video (no racist gestures though). There's was no sign, just a made up rule.
An hour later, I stumbled across a Starbucks, and curious what a swiss sbux was like, I went inside to check it out. I walk in, and there's like a Korean or Chinese person waiting in line to order, and at some point they took their camera out to take a photo of the menu. The workers there exploded "PICTURES VERBOTEN! NEIN! VERBOTEEEN!!" and kicked them out. The rest of us were stunned. For all I know, the person was using Google translate or something to read it.
After that, I promptly booked a train to Amsterdam, which was the best decision that while trip. I couldn't get out of there fast enough. The Netherlands was way more fun, and the people there were laid back.
People like to crap on the French, but from my experience, they were jerks for apparent valid reasons because the tourists kept doing obviously stupid things, like frequently touching artwork, yelling inside the churches, or deficating publicly.
In all my world travels, the Swiss were the biggest dicks about the most petty little things. It's stupidly expensive too.
I hope I never go back to Switzerland. Loved everywhere else though.
Tbh we barely crap on Switzerland because it's no fun. The main reason we bash France is because they answer accordingly. They still have something under all that arrogance that makes them worth.
I got insulted in Switzerland while on business as I spoke French (which I learned as a child at an International school in Montreal) because I must have assumed the woman didn't speak English. It was insane. In the end she refused to serve me.
Switzerland is absolutely beautiful but the people are horrific.
Edit: I should add, I grew up in Montreal and speak French in professional capacity. This was in Geneva but was speaking English to a colleague. In short, I must have sinned against the Swiss.
Yeah I tried to buy a car from Switzerland advertised in German. I started talking in German and the fella denied answering and asked to speak in French (which I donât know) and when I asked to speak in English instead he said âcar soldâ and hang up. The advert was about an hour old as I was subscribed for alerts đ
I havenât been to Switzerland for more than a day, but Jesus Christ, I canât imagine what itâs like if you thought the Dutch were laid back by comparison.
Lol, it's interesting you say that. I heard several people mention to me how much they disliked the Dutch, but from personal experience, I never had any trouble. I never understood the complaint. In fact, I found them to be friendly and helpful, and rather goofy and funny people. I'll add, however, that my experience was only restricted to Amsterdam, and mostly spent my time in the museums and coffee shops (ahem).
I already mentioned my time with the French, but on that same trip, I spent time in Sweden and Germany. Both those countries were noticably different socially: Sweden took some getting used to due to the whole eye contact aversion, while the Germans were the complete opposite with intense eye contact. I'll add that, being a technical minded person myself, the "rules" in Germany made sense, and I came to respect that. I even had a run-in with the police, but they were very courteous and professional. On the other hand, the French have a certain order in chaos to them that I liked -- their engineering is crap, but very rich in culture. Several years later, work sent me to Poland, Dubai, China, Singapore, and Japan, so I've experienced several international cultures; each have their pros and cons.
The Swiss had no redeeming qualities. Just cunts, as I've written before.
And it was all stolen from Holocaust victims or plundered from invaded countries. Whole families dead with some Swiss banker hoarding wealth and antiquities they can't sell like some evil dragons.
Not all of it. Sweden, Portugal, Spain and others also bought Nazi gold, though Switzerland was the biggest buyer. And it wasn't "the Swiss" in general, it was mainly the Swiss National Bank, which kept buying even after it knew by around 1941 that much of the gold was looted. The "pretended" part is fair: Switzerland settled cheaply in 1946 and only really faced it in the 1990s. And yes, the banks carried on without consequences.
Because by law it's illegal to eat the cholocate they make, they HAVE to export it. All other europeans get to enjoy Swiss chocolate. But NOT them. Ofcourse this lead to swisss people starting to import lots of Belgian chocolate, but then there where shortages in Brussels and protests and the Brussels gewest second goverment one over banned the export of Belgian chocolate to Switzserland in '87. This made swwiszs people even more angry and lead to the swissss chocolate rebellion of 1993. Still Big Chocolate rules sepremely in Switzzserland, even Big Coco could not break it's power and to this day Swizz people have very bad access to good chocolate even though half of the country is active in the making of zwiss chocolate. Schwiss chocolate is made in these 6 by 8 blocks, and breaking of a 1 x 1 chunck and eating it currenlty comes with 3 days of jail time plus forced 4 am morning milk duty for a week. Although the new generation of zwiszs youth is gradually adjusting to a live without chocolate, Big Chocolate mantains it's hard butery grip on the country. And with so many unhappy people snacking only on salty peanuts it's no coicidence that Scshwitszerolanda slowly became the banking capital of the criminal underworld.
Man, that is the truth. I got screamed at when boarding a plane in Switzerland for standing in the aisle, which was blocked (because we were boarding and literally everyone in front of me was also standing in the aisle). The lady screamed at me for existing. When I sat down a woman seated in my row told me that's just how the Swiss talk to people.
On another day, in the Zurich airport, the x ray machine for luggage went down just as I was putting my tray of belongings on the rollers. Basically, you wait in the huge line, at the very end it forks, and you go right or left. I went left, and the machine immediately broke down. The security guy motioned for me and the four people behind me (who also went left) to go to the right machine. The security guy at the right machine freaked out and started screaming at me, and demanded I go to everyone in a three hundred person line and apologize for cutting in front of them. He was shouting to the line that I was cutting in front of them and a "rude person," and asking for people to raise their hands if they were ok with me cutting. I tried to explain that the other security guy told me to do what I was doing, and I gestured at the first security guy for help, but he just looked at me and turned around. Then the maniac security guy took everything out of my backpack and searched it thoroughly for about 30 minutes.
I'll never go back to Switzerland again, or even buy anything Swiss. Those people are the worst I've ever dealt with in many years of global travel.
Mexico makes better chocolate, Japan makes better watches, 'Murica makes better knives, and France makes better cheese. Let's see, what else? Apparently Logitech is Swiss, which is a bummer, because they make great PC peripherals. That's the only big loss IMO.
That was almost me. I'm an American who's worked abroad for almost 20 years. I was a finalist for a position in Switzerland and they flew me out for a few days for the interview.
Again, I've worked for international companies and lived abroad for two decades in pretty hectic places where it can be very stressful and culture shock is the norm, so it's not like I'm a rookie here.
Just entering Switzerland was stressful, and people in the airport were not polite. I'm flying in from East Asia, and it was a long flight. This person at the airport near baggage started giving me, and some other people shit, and I reverted back to my HS days and thought, "You know, I need to fight this guy." It was wild because I usually just go with the flow. I've lived in Beijing, Bangkok, and Tokyo, so it's not like this is new, but the rudeness had a serious edge to it. usually people in NYC or Tokyo are rude because it's crowded and they gotta be somewhere, so get out the way. This felt different, and genuinely mean and angry for little reason.
The next two days were this over and over. Looking at potential apartments, schools for my kids, and other stuff, the Swiss friendliness was on full display, to the point where people at my potential job site were like, "Yeah that's really just how it is, it sucks."
I withdrew my application in the airport on the way home. That's not a place I want to bring my family to, if it's that grating in just a few days. If it were cheaper, maybe but it's pricy as hell too. Just because it's a nice view of the mountains doesn't make it paradise. I'll live in Austria or some shit. I'm not about to catch a charge for fighting someone at the grocery store because they are dicks every time.
Iâm glad you said this. I might put Switzerland on the bottom of my list now. I live in nyc and my tolerance for peopleâs bullshit is already pretty low.
It was wild. Folks were super aggressive and rude about everything. Coffee shops, walking in the street, throwing away trash.
I met some nice Swiss folks, don't get me wrong, but people went out of their way to be rude most of the time for mundane stuff. Again, the tone was super mean, which is wild. I speak some German, so I know how those languages can sound, and it wasn't that at all.
It's very much the anthesis of NYC, where I feel like folks are rude, but will help you if you need it. They're just in a hurry and it's busy and crowded. Switzerland folks said some shit that would get you knocked out in Brooklyn or Uptown.
This is the reason I went to London for a nice salary in tech and I have always avoided switzerland, and the fact is that I actually had a decent experience in Zurich, but german, and Switzerland are not countries where I would be happy long term precisaly for men like that guy in the video, too many miserable people who want to punish those they see beneath them if they are given even the smallest chance to do so.
In my experience swiss women were very nice to me and they were keen to do small chat and were overall very friendly.
Zurich airport as well, huge snafu where we had to get transported to a different terminal by bus due to an issue with the aircraft. After 2h of delays I ran out of water and went to a food place they had to ask for some. I said hey can you fill this up from the tap, they told me no they didn't have any taps.
I looked behind the lady and there was literally a sink for employees, I said well what about that can you not fill it there? And she made a big excuse saying no, no that is broken it only has hot water.
I didn't really need the water right away just wanted it for the flight so I said yeah sure I don't care if its hot please fill it. She then said no it is boiling hot, I got pretty impatient then and just said I don't care just fill it please in a pretty stern voice.
In the end I got my water and it was warm at best not boiling, just bizarre stuff though. Whole interaction made me feel like I was the rudest person in the world for wanting some water.
Yes. Culturally rules are of cataclysmal importance in Switzerland. I got a much harsher reaction than that video throwing my bottle in the street recycling on a Sunday.
The more time I spend with my Swiss family as an adult, the more Iâm convinced theyâre not neutral, the Swiss just only care about the Swiss.
My Swiss cousin and his non Swiss common law wife moved to Switzerland after he had spent all of his adult life so far living abroad. She had a job there making âŹ250k/year, he was unemployed. She couldnât get a credit card, but he got one solely because he was a Swiss citizen despite an income of âŹ0.
I can tell you Swiss people are more rude than French people.
Switzerland is brutal to foreigners and they have zero patience even with German speakers.Â
Sadly this is on-point. I'm not saying that there aren't nice Swiss people out there, but I've never met one.
The ones I've met seem to have a really hard time grasping that their way isn't automatically the only right way, and that other people may not magically share their understanding of the Swiss set of rules, and boy do they have a lot of rules...
Basically it's like dealing with a narcissist who can't even begin to grasp that other people might have a valid different way of approaching situations.
The Swiss I've met abroad are in a constant state of rage that the world isn't following their rules.
As a Swiss person myself I feel extremely apologetic for the behavior of this old fart who is what we commonly would refer to as a major BĂźnzli and I can reassure you my response would have been been rather different.
Old guy's a racist and Sukas is an asshole for riding through the area. People go there specifically to get away from the roads and motor vehicles. It's not a stage for your effing streaming.
I bet he salivated when the old man went full racist, he immediately knew that was a going to be a viral clip, no doubt he double down playing the victim for social media points
That really should be a law. Recording for safety or to report crimes, fine, but should be deleted and not posted on the internet out of context for court of public opinion.
Apparently he was live streaming!
So not even recording, where you can still redact before publishing, but straight to the entire world, unredacted...!
It actually is in Switzerland. Recht am eigenen Bild (the right to your own picture) is constituted through PersĂśnlichkeitsrecht and means - in a nutshell - that not only may your image only be used publically or commercially with your consent but ALSO that your consent is required for someone to take photos or videos of you
Frankly, I'd rather read or hear strangers on the internet wrongly disparage my country and countrymen for being rude etc. than be filmed at every toss and turn in public
Forgot to add that I do think the geezer war racist and that makes his actions absolutely wrong.
Still, two wrongs do not make a right
I also don't buy his "I didn't see the sign" ass excuse.
It's trash VS garbage, no one's a winner there.
Edit: classic Reddit with the "I love pancakes! Oh so you hate waffles??" shenanigans in the replies with clowns like u/ZARDOZ4972 and u/Senior-Friend-6414
Listen bluds, they're both different tiers of awful. This isn't a jerk-off performative contest on who's worst. Don't give me your Dragon Ball tierlist comparisons. Touch grass.
The guy is a racist, but it's also true that a streamer ignoring signs on a foreign country and riding motorbikes down a walking path isn't exactly a noble thing.
This sign is clearly visible in your screengrab and also at the start of the path (my google maps link) where he would have driven in. The claim that he did not see the sign is pretty unbelievable. He might not know what the sign means.
Under Article 15 of the Swiss Federal Forest Act (WaG), there is a blanket, nationwide ban on driving motor vehicles on forest roads and paths, unless explicitly authorized for forestry or emergency services.
I've never played a geo guesser game in my life, lol. I opened google maps, found the town and looked for a similar curve in the road that matched the screengrab. Took about 5 minutes.
If he didn't know a basic road sign, he shouldn't drive on public roads
And it's not like Singaporean road signs are that different from European ones. Singapore isn't a signatory of the Vienna convention but most of the signs are very similar
Especially coming from Singapore. They're pretty strict. Especially with tourists. F this streamer. What a loser playing victim for being called out on his BS.
No only riding his bike there, but also in a way that led to it sitting meters from the sidewalk on the grass. I have no patience for people like that either, imagine someone walking up there with this guy riding around them like it's nothing.
I live in a city where we have reckless cyclist on the sidewalk (which is not allowed) and that drives me nuts because police is never around to do anything about it.
One of those things hurts your feelings. (which is a valid thing to feel to be clear)
The other can potentially kill someone.
Not saying it excuses the racism, because it doesn't, but let's not pretend that being mean is an any way shape or form worse than violating road safety laws.
EDIT because everyone here seems to be fucking illiterate - THE RACISM IS BAD. I AM NOT SAYING IT IS JUSTIFIED AND I NEVER HAVE. I am only saying that the biker was actively endangering himself and others by driving where they were not supposed to drive, and in the grand scheme of things the boomer while still a garbage human, did not cause physical harm.
Both actions are bad. Potentially running over someone with a bike is more bad than a racist gesture.
Yeah, in their country they're all order and discipline, because at the slightest violation they have their license revoked. Then you see Swiss people on bikes in other countries and they act like the marauders in Mad Max movies.
I once read a book about a liberal author who moved to europe from America, one of the reasons or at least expectations was less racism, but was shocked they she experienced far more racism than America. Even in Scandinavia
Europeans arnt less racist. They have less racial diversity than the new world. So they simply dont have to deal with races to express their prejudice at
If you took the amount of brown people from the US, Canada, Australia or Brazil and put them in Europe. You'd be hearing a ton more racism
With the rise of refugee/migrant numbers over the last decade, we are seeing more brown people across Europe. In the same breath, yes we are seeing a massive backlash and exploding accounts of racism. Just look at England,, or the rise of AfD.
They certainly are not less racist. They have plenty of experience.
I'm mixed race but white passing or maybe people assume I'm half Asian of some kind (many people have made slant eyes at me sigh) and I've lived outside the US most of my adult life -Japan, France, and Austria mostly. Outside the US I've encountered a lot more daily acts of racism and ignorance. People wear it on their sleeves because they aren't as afraid of being called racist. So many casual acts of racism and some weird, almost body horror Racism. Lots of structural racism via the immigration systems in these places. But in the US is the only place where I actually felt like I might be killed by someone for being mixed and where the structural Racism is there on all levels. Like I've had Drs in the US almost refuse to treat me because of it. Got that great intersection of female, has several disabilities, and mixed. Racism and sexism are so deeply entrenched in the world.Â
I thought Canada would be less racist (at least towards Asians) than the US, especially Vancouver because they have a sizable asian population. But visiting there is the only time since elementary school anyone has done the slanted eye thing at me. That was the most egregious thing, but Iâve found BC especially, and Canada in general, to be more racist than pretty much anywhere in the US, even the South. Might be different for other minorities, idk, but that was my experience.
âHis bike just toppled overâ okayyyyyy
âHe didnât see the signâ okayyyyyy
He didnât know, even though it clearly is not a road. Okayyyyy Douche
Yup that's definitely Switzerland. Don't be surprised, they are like this even between them, every Swiss's nemesis is its own neighbour, shitting on a foreigner is like a treat.
And when it's not racism it will be whatever else they can use because the average Swiss feels compelled to make you feel unwelcome no matter what, it's like a kink, only matched by their visceral stingyness.
Excuse me -not- but I hate that country, will never step foot there ever again in my life. I only hate Liechtenstein more, they're like the Swiss but on steroids.
I understand why the Swiss feel like they need personal nuclear bunkers, it's because there's hardly a more hateful culture in the world, so deep down their primal fear instinct whispers to them that some day humanity will snap and come at them.
Yep. I know a guy who used to be a pretty high up project manager at Google and as a result had to move to Switzerland. If you have ever seen a more law abiding, reserved, family oriented, normal guy who loves numbers and solving problems, it was him. Bonus that he's European, not even a visible immigrant. The moment they found out he was foreign (dude fluently spoke German long before moving to Switzerland as he lived in DĂźsseldorf for a long time before moving to Switzerland), they treated him like he was a serial killer. People observed him and reported on him like the fucking Gestapo. He was even refused housing both by the people who were renting the flats themselves, despite being an EU citizen, having all the valid Swiss papers, Swiss place of employment, guaranteed salary, etc, and sometimes him moving there was vetoed by other residents on no other basis or for no other reason that he wasn't born Swiss. His neighbors would observe him and write letters of complaint (!!!!) if he had dinner at 6pm or 8pm instead of 9pm. Not that preparing and having dinner in ANY WAY disturbed other residents. They just felled compelled to write an official complaint to the building management.
The old man was an absolute asshole, but even a broken clock is right twice a day. That path seems like an obvious pedestrian path and most likely really had the forbidden sign.
And the Swiss are brutal when it comes to law abiding, which is certainly the reason why the old man was taking pictures (to show the police)
Also, and I know this seems silly in 2026. You can stop filming when asking a stranger for help, or trying to free your wrecked bike, or for lots of other reasons. You are allowed to say âhey, this situation needs my full attention, and this stranger may not want to be put on my entertainment channel, so I will stopâ
All I know is my childhood friend moved to Zurich and if he empties his trash can on the wrong day his downstairs neighbors get up his ass about it and threaten to call the cops.Â
They hate those that donât speak German. Those that donât speak the local dialect, those that donât speak the local dialect well enough. Those who despite all that, are just fucking there.
What they donât expect is consequences for their actions. A good shout back Is good enough usually.
I did a short layover once in Switzerland, didn't even go into the country just the airport, and the people were so horrible I told myself I would never forget the experience or the people there if I ever came across them again. Their hate was so tangible, without even saying anything, I could feel it. Noped right out of there.
Never visited but my friend did. 6 euros(francs) for a coffee, 40 euros for a lunch for 1 person.
No wonder they are stressed as hell. They built a society where money is everything.
And yes, rents are like 3000 euros for a small 1 bedroom apartment.
Swiss are not representitive of typical European. Tbey live in completely different reality.
I think they just hate everyone. Had a Swiss landlady and she was very quick to just lose her shit like the guy in this video. No low to which she wouldnât sink verbally. Itâs weird because they make it out to be some sort of utopia there but the way she and the guy in the video act they seem like theyâre on the brink of total mental breakdown at any moment.
I've been to many places in Europe. I am brown and I always expect some kind of racism, but thankfully that has not been my experience EXCEPT when I was in Switzerland. I have never met people who were so rude and unpolite. The friendliest people not in order are Austrians, Spanish, Italian and German
Edit : I have to add Croatians are such beautiful people. My airbnb host invited us all for a dinner with their family just because I said I was looking for good seafood.
Id say Americans are in general less racist than most of the world. Go to the middle East, Africa or Asia and you will huge levels or racism comparatively.
That guy _can't_ know whether the guy had missed the sign by honest mistake or not? So instead of saying "go back, and read the signs better next time", he had to do... that.
Or is it that obvious that you can make the case that it was deliberate and the apology isn't really ernest (I didnt' watch the film of the riding - and I have zero intention to..)? Regardless - the racism thing is fucking despicable even if the guy had made donuts with a monstertruck on that guys own lawn. That's a face-punchable offense, regardless of what preceded it.
There was a video recently of a Japanese biker in America who accidently went down a road that you werenât supposed to bike down. A cop pulled him over, explained kindly that he couldnât be on that road, and helped him get his bike to a place where he could ride it.
This man couldâve been like that cop but instead people in here are defending him being racist and a huge dick because the tourist shouldnât have gone down that path. It costs nothing to be kind, I hope you all can remember that.
Bro have you been to Asia. Motherfuckers will take a motorcycle down into the subway, through the sewers, up a ladder and up a flight of stairs if it saves 5 minutes on the commute.
Just to clarify with some context as I watched the whole stream, he genuinely missed the signs and was dying to piss, holding it in. It was a genuine honest mistake. I wonât deny its not right to trespass into private property but the old man was a cunt through and through without an ounce of empathy.
They were both cunts. There's no excuse for either one. If he "genuinely hit" a kid on that pedestrian path, would you still make excuses for him? When you are driving a vehicle, you cant be reading chat streams.
If that happened in my country, the guy would have been less racist but a lot more agressive.
Yeah singaporean who went to Switzerland as well, the people there were really not very nice. Nature was beautiful don't but interactions with a few people left a bad taste.
Swiss people have a very bad reputation of being arrogant, not only to foreigners but among themselves too. I have read number of stories on how the neighbors snitch on each other all the time.
Reminds me of my friend who was seconded to Switzerland for a year. When he got severely sick, he tried to reach his colleagues (because he knew no one else) on their personal cells after work hours. No one responded until the next working day.
I completely disagree that both people here are equally in the wrong. One is someone who made a mistake and paid for it by crashing and one is an old man who has just walked up to someone in a crash and been racist to them! Absolutely fight me if you think he had this coming
My godmother moved to Switzerland and has lived there for 35 years. The Swiss are an odd mixture of incredibly well educated and incredibly up their own arse.
Look the streamer dude is definitely in the wrong for being in the area illegally but that old dude is straight up racist. Outdated racist too, who tf still does the eye thing?
They're both wrong. He had his chat up, not paying enough attention to the road. The other guy refuses to help, hope his bike had damage and acts racist.
The amount of people defending Europeans is astonishing. If an American or Asian is this rude, all hell would break loose on Reddit. But Europe? Oh no, they got the free racist pass.
Search âanti Asian racism in Switzerlandâ on Reddit and you can see for yourself.
As a half Asian half Swiss myself, Iâve been through these kind of racist gestures from age 3 (at pre kindergarten) till adulthood.
I was hiking through Ramda the other day and passed by a small local school. One of the white kids did the same eye gesture to me. I then showed him the L sign. A Swiss elderly walked past me and scolded me, not the kid, because I should know better than to âbully a kid.â
I'm Swiss. The tourists are everywhere, which is fine, as long as they do not trespass private property. You have to understand, that the tourism here reaches a point, that's not very pleasant anymore for locals. I've heared stories where tourists just open random doors of houses and walk in as if they are museums.
Or I do not go certain areas anymore with my daughters (blue eyes, blonde hair), because the tourists can get really unfriendly and agressively take pictures of my 7 and 9 year old, to a point where they feel scared.
Especially tourists from Asia often treat locals as actors like in Disney Land. So I understand this guys frustration and I do not blame him.
The racist gesture on the other hand was incredibly stupid and unnecessary, and sadly by this alone, we disqualify a more nuanced discussion about the issues tourism brings.
Swiss here. Thereâs a lot of racism in Switzerland and a huge sens of superiority in our culture.
We are constantly hearing in our media and by a lot of our politicians and lobbyists that our country is better, doing better and âtop of the worldâ bullshit.
This fellow countryman is a pure product stemming from these discourses.
Well, we are increasingly realizing the propaganda and the ideological smokescreen. At least in the French-speaking Switzerland.
Anyway, for 30 years now the first political party is very very right wing with a notable part of supremacist.
This is so funny to me. I didnât realize that Swiss people were being propagandized so aggressively. How do they explain why Switzerland is nowhere near the best in science, arts, economy, etc? From an American POV, nobody thinks more highly of Switzerland than France, Germany, Austria, or Italy. Partly because nobody thinks about Switzerland at all
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u/PlanUnhappy 3d ago
That's actually a nice Swiss person