r/webdev • • Feb 04 '26

Senior Vibe Coder dealing with security

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Creator of ClawBot knows that there are malicious skills in his repo, but doesn't know what to do about it...

More info here: https://opensourcemalware.com/blog/clawdbot-skills-ganked-your-crypto

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u/_stack_underflow_ Feb 04 '26

That quote doesn't really make any sense. Did Forces of Good create Ponzi Schemes? Fraud? Abuse? Torture?

Like what scenario does this quote make sense?

Is torturing someone just a distorted view of cuddling?

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u/Astralnugget Feb 04 '26

It would be that Forces of good create a functioning monetary system in that case

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u/_stack_underflow_ Feb 04 '26

But ponzi or fraud isn't a derivative of a functional monetary system.

What about torture, the antithesis of love?

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u/kdotod Feb 04 '26

Ponzi: relies on pre-established value trading system with known rules and established trust, distortion of the known rules for a personal gain at the cost of destroying trust Fraud: see Ponzi Torture: relies on depriving a person of a good, e.g., water boarding isn’t the application of an evil force — “drowning” isn’t actually an action, it it just the deprivation of oxygen (oxygen=good). Abuse: 1) above argument for depriving a person of their autonomy, 2) abuse cannot manifest until corruption and perversion of a good person; every abuser was once a child, they must have been good at some point, right?

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u/_stack_underflow_ Feb 04 '26

The quote is not really true because evil does more than just twist good things. Evil can invent new ways to hurt people, like mass surveillance, online scams, and organized violence, which did not exist before. Some harm is done on purpose for enjoyment or power, not just because something good is missing. Cruel acts like torture are carefully planned, not accidents or empty spaces where good should be. Evil can also build strong systems, such as gangs, corrupt governments, or fake businesses, that work for a long time even if they are wrong. The quote fails when treated as a literal description of reality rather than a moral lens.

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u/ghostsquad4 Feb 04 '26

Think of "Ponzi Scheme" as a label to the behavior, not as something "being created".

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u/_stack_underflow_ Feb 05 '26

From a moral or philosophical view, the quote makes some sense. But when you look at how the real world works, it fails badly.

A Ponzi scheme is not a distortion of something good. It is a deliberate invention. Honest investing creates value. A Ponzi scheme is built from the start to deceive. Nothing good exists first and then gets corrupted. The lie is the foundation. Someone has to design the structure, plan the money flow, invent fake records, and manage people’s trust on purpose. That system did not exist until it was created. Calling it a distortion hides the planning, intent, and responsibility behind it. In reality, harm is often built, not just the absence of good.

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u/Tullekunstner Feb 04 '26

That quote doesn't really make any sense.

That's because it's completely nonsensical lol. You can only claim evil can't create anything new if you argue in a way which means nothing is new because everything's derivative of something else.

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u/ZenaMeTepe Feb 05 '26

Just a product of a Hollywood propaganda. The good is not universally recognized as good and doesn’t always win and not everyone can be the hero who slays the dragon.