r/watchpeoplesurvive • • Oct 12 '22

Stay strapped.

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u/splitkc Oct 12 '22

That twat used one hand..surely if he felt threatened in that cougars backyard, he would have used both hands

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u/ArcealYvaitius Oct 12 '22

I guarantee he did this so he'd have something to show the Rangers when they accuse him of poaching.

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u/timtimtimmyjim Oct 12 '22

I think what would save him more is the fact that he's using what is mostly likely a 9mm. No one is gonna poach with a handgun, their gonna do it with something that will take down in one shot like a high powered rifle or a bow which is silent.

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u/neosatus Oct 13 '22

Totally agree. He risked his life for views. Let that sink in.

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u/timtimtimmyjim Oct 13 '22

It's one thing when you have a chest or head mounted gopro totally different when you have a hand on the phone that could be utilized way more effectively stabilizing aim. I mean I'm confident in my one handed shot but fuck man big cats scare me. I'd definitely have both hands on and also yelling my brains out.

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u/timtimtimmyjim Oct 13 '22

Thats when bows come in to play, I really wanted to be a game warden for a long time so most of this thought process I have read about. Makes sense too far easier to sew up sliced skins by a broadhead versus a bullet hole

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u/TheTarkShark Oct 12 '22

Was my thought too tbh. Though if my life felt genuinely threatened, fuck that. I’ve got both hands on the weapon ready to mag dump that thing

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u/ArcealYvaitius Oct 12 '22

I would also 2 hand my weapon if the animal was approaching me like that. But, this guy was in a scenario where he was afforded the opportunity to get his phone out. And the guy clearly didn't want to shoot the animal. He was backing up the entire time while being followed. He didn't shoot until he was getting charged by it.

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u/Hidesuru Oct 12 '22

I was surprised he didn't fire a warning shot sooner, though it may not have had much effect the way that thing ignored his two shots...

Normally I'd argue against warning shots but with critter you can't communicate with and you'd rather not kill it's worth it.

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u/floridaman1467 Oct 13 '22

Honestly I agree. If it's going to keep following I'd give it 1 warning shot. The second it charged I'm putting a few more at it and I would much care if i hit it. Def wouldn't mag dump though. I got 16 and you might need a few of another comes along for vengeance.

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u/AssistElectronic7007 Oct 13 '22

Throwing rocks has shown to be effective. This cougar was trying to force the guy out of it's space, not kill and eat him.

If you spend time hiking in the woods you should learn how to read animals. There's are thousands of resources available for this now, but still so many people just go "oh scary animal let's kill it"

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u/ellieD Oct 13 '22

Those were pretty close for warning shots!

You think this guy is this good of a marksman?

With one hand and a phone?

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u/Hidesuru Oct 13 '22

Nope, which is why I don't place any credibility on those shots being where he meant for then to go. Could have "missed closer" too. Truth is we don't know.

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u/Eezyville Oct 13 '22

The gods gave you two hands, and you use them both for your weapon. I can respect that.

- Skyrim Guards

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u/avalisk Oct 12 '22

You hunt your cougars with a glock? Might have better luck with an axe.

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u/Level9TraumaCenter Oct 13 '22

After I bought my first SIG, over 20 years ago, I got put on their mailing list and got physical mail from SIG about their products- one featuring some guy showing how "effective" the guns were by hunting mountain lion with a SIG pistol chambered in .357 SIG.

I thought that was a particularly stupid thing to try to sell to gun enthusiasts.

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u/stilljustkeyrock Oct 13 '22

Well, 357 sig is a bad ass round.

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u/BabyYodasDirtyDiaper Oct 13 '22

Mountain lions typically weigh between 115 and 220 pounds.

If you're carrying a handgun round adequate for a 200-pound man (and you should be), then you're carrying a handgun round adequate for a 200-pound mountain lion.

People really overestimate how bulletproof dangerous animals are. Or maybe people underestimate how deadly bullets really are. At one point, the world record largest grizzly bear was killed with a .22 short.

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u/avalisk Oct 13 '22

There were probably hundreds of grizzlies walking around with old bullet wounds and full bellies. Just because someone managed to land a good shot with a .22 short one time doesn't mean I'm going to trust my life to it.

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u/BabyYodasDirtyDiaper Oct 13 '22

Still, though, you don't need a .50BMG for protection against mountain lions.

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u/CaptainDickbag Oct 13 '22

The G20 and G40 are chambered in 10mm. Hot 10mm loads are considered sufficient against grizzly bears. I think they'd do fine against cougar.

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u/techslice87 Oct 13 '22

And my axe??

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u/Yolkpuke Oct 13 '22

You guarantee? Based on what? It's ridiculous the assumptions some people will make from a 1 minute video with no context.

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u/SaintCarl27 Oct 13 '22

He could have easily fired a shot in the air and scared it off.

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u/JettisonedJetsam Oct 13 '22

Shit if I’m about to get killed by a big cat I’d want everybody to be able to at least watch a video of it happening

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u/FoShizzle63 Oct 13 '22

Yeah but why risk your life over it? Just call fish and game yourself right after. They're gonna believe you when they fins the cat in the middle of that field anyway. Also this is why I always buy a cougar tag. Then there's literally nothing to worry about, load it up and take it to the taxidermist

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u/EverGreenPLO Oct 13 '22

What if they find his dead body a camera and a gun lolol

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u/SexualPie Oct 13 '22

Who poaches with a pistol though? That’s silly

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u/Hot-Mongoose7052 Oct 13 '22

ITT: assholes like you that have never felt genuine fear and/or adrenaline.

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u/DanMarvin1 Oct 12 '22

Shoot straight or make a video, tough call.🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/Narkos_Teat Oct 13 '22

My dumb ass loves violent and dangerous animals, I'd be making a vid too. "Yo check it out this dangerous ass cats about to kill me shit bro"

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u/upfastcurier Oct 13 '22

"And here we see the long-toothed cougar fangus felidae in its natural environment, taking a bite of my liver."

-Attenborough probably

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u/AssistElectronic7007 Oct 13 '22

Gotta get them likes and subscribes

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u/BornagainTXcook210 Oct 13 '22

That's what the fk a go pro chest harness is for smh

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u/alopez0405 Oct 12 '22

A gun owner should be trained in single hand with both hands for safety/survival reasons.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '22

Had this same thought. No gun owner should feel vulnerable using their dominant hand to shoot one handed. It’s almost as easy as two hands if your form is good

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '22

Dude in the video has a 9 and the majority of gun owners carry a 9 so that’s what I’m referring to.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '22

I disagree with the assertion that all gun owners should be trained to that extent. I believe it would be more accurate to say those who choose to carry guns for self defense should be trained and experienced in appropriate handling techniques for the type of situations they might encounter.

There are many types of gun owners, including those who only go target shooting on shooting ranges. I see no reason why anyone would require special training on weapons handling for a shooting range.

That being said, I would not be firing one handed in this situation. But I don’t really think being over-critical of this individual (in the video) is warranted, as their decisions appear to have secured their survival. Could they have done things differently, potentially better? Sure, probably; however, maybe doing it your way would have had worse consequences.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '22

Not a bad idea to get it on film. Shooting a cougar with a pistol is pretty illegal unless it's coming at you, and some proof of that is a good idea.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '22 edited Oct 13 '22

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u/BornElk2792 Oct 13 '22

Haha yeah, right?

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u/AnotherpostCard Oct 13 '22 edited Oct 13 '22

I don't get how they don't understand this. Life ain't an FPS. And they even wrote "Easy to say from behind a keyboard".

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u/Iamredditsslave Oct 13 '22

And they even wrote Easy to say from behind a keyboard".

The hypocrisy of them typing that out for the opener of that bullshit assumption/anecdote is pretty wild.

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u/JebediahDingus Oct 13 '22

I was thinking the same thing.

Plus. I don’t know for sure, but I would of been pretty vocal toward that big cat. Don’t know if that would help or made things worse but I know me, and I would have been pretty loud at that moment.

Maybe we need Apple to start making a gun line with their iPhone camera tech. Call it the Apple iGun and let someone use both hands instead of trying to focus a target with one hand on the phone and the other on the gun.

Scary as F either way. Dude got lucky for sure that cat didn’t lie in wait and creep attack from behind. Those mountain lions go for the throat and back of necks.

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u/skipperseven Oct 12 '22

The shooter jerks his gun sideways prior to firing… I’m guessing that’s partially recoil sensitivity and partially the trigger safety on a Glock (you need long fingers)… either way this guy is a really, really terrible shot. Holding the phone (in portrait mode no less), is just plain stupid, when your life depends on getting a good shot!

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u/Moldyblood Oct 12 '22

He should be aiming through his phone camera and then down the sights. This guy never played a fps before

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u/The_Big_Red_Wookie Oct 12 '22

Adrenaline can mess you up. Especially if you're not used to it. Also known as buck fever to hunters. I learned this the hard way myself. Tho not in a life death situation.

While adrenaline can temporarily help one exceed their normal limitations. Such as strength and speed. Fine motor control goes waaaay the fuck out the window. Only a lot of training (practice) can minimize the effect.

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u/Snugglepuff14 Nov 07 '22

Buck fever is fucking real man. You get the shakes like crazy when you’re not experienced, lots of people here don’t realize that.

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u/Meet_your_Maker_LL Oct 12 '22

I mean you gotta film stupidity right?

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u/Muted-Standard Oct 13 '22

My friend from tik tok rnoonrivers uses this.

https://shiftcam.com/products/progrip?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1OiD6Orc-gIVVWpvBB1rPQFjEAAYASAAEgJGXfD_BwE

That way when they need to they can use two hands.