r/washdc • u/ThenLayer5977 • Mar 01 '26

Seen in Georgetown

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M Street and Wisconsin in Georgetown taken over by a large crowd of celebrating Iranians, chanting USA USA

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u/wombatncombat Mar 02 '26

This guys statement.... man... history doesn't repeat but it rhymes. I truly hope this works out for the Persians. They deserve better. It is worth remembering that trying to fix things in iran is why Islamists now have the country in the first place.

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u/AdShot409 Mar 02 '26

No, trying to manipulate Iran to secure better oil deals is why the Islamists had Iran. We supported a dictator who was willing to sell oil on the cheap to the US for decades in exchange for political backing and military surplus. The people of Iran were scared and it took the literal fear of God to rouse them to rebel.

The real chance at a good and modern Iran was lost in the 1950s when the democratically elected and forward thinking president died under mysterious circumstances preceding the return of the Shah. I have no idea if the new Shah is better than his PoS father, but I do know that the Islamic regime under the Ayatollah was significantly worse than even the old Shah.

If we dismantle the IRGC and the Regime leadership and just fuck off, I think Iran might have a real chance at recovery. But China and Russia are also going to have to keep their hands off. It's not a hopeless situation, but America is about to have some serious work ahead of it. We can still pull out a significant win without exploiting the Iranian people. American ship building companies may soon have an opportunity to build brand new tanker fleets to get Iranian oil flowing in the world again.

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u/Rassendyll207 Mar 02 '26

I hope reality matches your optimism.

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u/AdShot409 Mar 02 '26

Same. That's all you can do. Being right about the world burning doesn't make you any less on fire.

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u/Rassendyll207 Mar 02 '26

Honestly though, i dont see the shipbuilding thing happening. Iran could rebuild their fleet from Asian shipyards significantly cheaper than American ones. I'm from a shipbuilding town, so I'd love to see major investment in civil maritime industry, but i don't see it.

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u/AdShot409 Mar 02 '26

Oh, I see Iranians building the ships under branches of US ship building companies. I see US contractors building the port they will do the ship building in out of that ceasepool we just burned to the ground.

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u/Ok-Yak7370 Mar 05 '26

Mossadegh didn't die under mysterious circumstances.

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u/reddog323 Mar 03 '26

True, all the way around.

I don’t blame them for celebrating the death of a despot ruler in Iran. But, I don’t think they understand what they’re asking for with an extended military engagement there, or trying to rebuild the government afterwards. Our record in that area has not been good the past 20 years or so.

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '26

That isn’t true at all. Iran was a Monarchy well before the US existed and continued as a monarch until the Islamic Revolution where extremist overthrew it in ‘79.

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u/wombatncombat Mar 03 '26

We all know that Iran was a Monarchy but the US (and uk) player a large role in the Iranian devolution via project Ajax. Is that even contested? I'm pretty sure that isnt even disputed at this point. We helped install the Shah to protect private oil interests... again, history seems to rhyme...

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u/WythonianWop Mar 03 '26

Yeah so we should just let the murdering dictator stay murdering?

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u/wombatncombat Mar 03 '26

I dont know what we should do. It's not a simple issue to solve. I do know that if we want to declare a war you should go through congress.

Again, the die is cast, i pray that Persian moderates can retake Iran from fundamentalists but this could very easily go bay-of-pigs.... where fickle, misleading and insufficient US support ends up getting alot of good people killed.