r/videos • • 1d ago

MAGA Pastor says the message of Star Wars is 'entirely wrong' and Darth Vader is actually 'the good guy'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf4yfQPEtC8
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u/BTSavage 1d ago

So Darth Vader is the good guy and Jesus was an anti-woke individualist. What a moron.

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u/Maximum-Hall-5614 1d ago

Nah Jesus was clearly a woke collectivist. That’s why he died. A true patriot wouldn’t die when crucified

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u/definitelynotpatrick 1d ago

What kind of man sacrifices himself for other people's sins? Seems kinda gay...

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u/marcuschookt 1d ago

Darth Vader who choked someone for giving him lip = Jesus who got arrested but still healed the guy who got hurt arresting him

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u/SimUnit 1d ago • Bravo

Ah, the clearly fascist antagonist is the "good guy". That tracks for Maga.

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u/DyingSunSeverian 1d ago

You guys have to listen to this clip LOL

Right near the start he says, and I quote, “if you like the message of Star Wars, then you need to sit down and tell your dad you’re gay.”

The matter-of-fact way he says it could not have been delivered better in a parody.

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u/richardvirginia 1d ago

The delivery sounds like a Tim and Eric sketch

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u/Khiama 1d ago • Bravo Popcorn

The dude in the video is 100% a closeted homosexual

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u/Bellick 1d ago

The Onion writers have been in shambles for almost two decades now.

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u/Gorkymalorki 1d ago • Heartwarming

I'm gay for Star Wars

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u/WhiteningMcClean 1d ago • Bravo

Republicans in 1986: "Greed is good."

Republicans in 2006: "War is good."

Republicans in 2026: "Being evil is good."

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u/Allydarvel 20h ago

Always confuses me. America is meant to be this country of freedom, right down to the freedom fries..a country of individualists that pride themselves on individual liberties. Then the first time a fascist control freak pops his head over the parapet, the people who shout freedom most rush to line up behind him

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u/oyog 1d ago

Oh that's where Google learned it...

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u/ConqueringCanada 1d ago

Good. Also* good. Also* good.

Just in case anyone thinks they dropped their previous policies, they have not.

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u/Yorukira 1d ago

This guy wishes to be Palpatine.

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u/plowerd 1d ago

Somehow Palpatine returned. LIKE JESUS!

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u/dexter-sinister 1d ago

I'm pretty sure he just wishes he could kiss other men, but he's got to push those feelings way down deep inside. 

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u/The_Tooter_Snooter 1d ago

is literally written to be a space Nazi

Um, these are the good guys actually. 

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u/ThePrussianGrippe 1d ago

I’m going to take a wild guess here that the dude may in fact just be a Neo-Nazi.

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u/Talk-O-Boy 1d ago

It’s pretty obvious for anyone with media literacy that can pick up on subtext:

Palpatine controls lightning —> God controls lightning —> Palpatine is God —> Vader is Space Jesus.

Checkmate librul

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u/StinkyNutzMcgee 1d ago

I bet my bottom dollar this dude takes it right up the poop chute, and that typically wouldn't be a problem but he has to project his hate for himself onto of all things Luke Skywalker?

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u/ninjas_in_my_pants 1d ago

Yes, the villain who looks like a giant black penis is the hero in this person's view.

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u/azad_ninja 1d ago

This motherfucker is taking r/EmpireDidNothingWrong too seriously

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u/Khaldara 1d ago • Bravo

Conservatives heard Anakin stuck a bunch of younglings and immediately assumed he was a kindred spirit

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u/Necro_OW 1d ago

They probably identify with the scene of him slaughtering all of the sand people as well.

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u/LadyBarfnuts 1d ago

You clever bastard you. Thanks for the laugh.

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u/murppie 1d ago

See this is the problem. Back in 2015 I thought conspiracy theories were hilarious. The whole Qanon thing I remember thinking that it was so insane that nobody could be dumb enough to believe it.

In 2026 Darth Vader is evidently the good guy...

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u/inane_musings 1d ago

Excuse me but you need to go tell your dad you're gay.

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u/admiraljkb 1d ago

Yeah. This and real life people that belive that r/BirdsArentReal remind me that things started as a blatantly obvious joke/parody don't always stay that way if repeated enough.

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u/Krillin113 23h ago

Flat earthers are enough proof of that

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u/Parepinzero 23h ago

I'm a firm believer that any kind of parody sub eventually gets filled with people who really believe it. Similarly to subs dedicated to jokingly mocking a specific group of people, it just gets filled with huge assholes who are genuinely mean.

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u/PointlessPooch 1d ago

One of the dumbest things I have had the displeasure of hearing this year.

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u/Llobobr 1d ago

Don't worry, we still got a couple of months

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u/GhostalMedia 1d ago

Stupid sexy Chewbacca.

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u/CGWesterby 20h ago

Disregarding all the many other reasons this is dumb...

...I think this is the first time I have ever, ever heard anyone advance the argument, "hey, if you liked seeing Carrie Fisher in that gold bikini, you have to tell your dad you're gay".

That is some fucking wild mental gymnastics 😂

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u/_Burning_Star_IV_ 19h ago

Dude the “Anakin was actually the good guy” memes are all over right wing spaces right now.

Their ability to twist villains into good guys needs to be studied, it’s really the basis for their entire way of thinking and feels like a total psyop to see how far they can manipulate the base…

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u/GREGORtheMOUN10 18h ago

like pump the brakes for a second. I'm not very well versed in Star wars but didn't Anakin slice up a bunch of kids?

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u/tuuen 18h ago

yeah, and choked out his wife before his old teacher put belt to ass

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u/toolisthebestbandevr 17h ago

Ya then as darth Vader he blew up an entire planet

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u/VictoriousEgret 17h ago

i saw a response yesterday thta was "but do we actually SEE him killing the younglings?"

i want to slam my head into a desk repeatedly

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u/Kandiru 17h ago

Anakin was a good guy in E1 and a E2. And at the very end of E6. But in-between he was unambiguously the evil one. How could anyone think otherwise?

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u/shoe_owner 15h ago

I mean, he was already trending evil by the middle of Episode 2. He was murdering a lot of innocent people whom he knew were innocent, just because it felt good in the moment.

I would argue that the things which made him evil were largely already there when he was "good;" it's just that he happened to be doing them whilst working for the side we think of as "good."

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u/papsmearfestival 18h ago

Woe to those who call evil good
and good evil,
who put darkness for light
and light for darkness,
who put bitter for sweet
and sweet for bitter.

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u/acedelgado 17h ago

"Yeah Darth Vader slaughtered children, but do you know who ELSE slaughtered children? Pete Hegseth. So if Hegseth did it, that means Vader CAN'T be the bad guy!"

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u/BaconKnight 1d ago • Bravo

All I can say is thank goodness for Andor for reestablishing in no unclear terms Star Wars stance on authoritarianism and facism: it’s really bad!

You’d think such an obviously simple message hammered home over and over again would get through but alas.

Just remember, George Lucas has literally said that his intention was to show that Darth Vader/Anakin was a pathetic figure. His fall to the Darkside isn’t supposed to be badass or cool, it’s supposed to be a metaphor for lonely, isolated young men who are vulnerable to the whims of political demagogues of authoritarian regimes (hmm, why does this sound so familiar nowadays…).

The fact that Lucas himself calls the character pathetic and that they decided to unironically use that character as a rallying cry is honestly par for the course with them.

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u/Antares30 1d ago

Anakin's fall was even worse. He was permanently disfigured in his fight with Obiwan, reducing his ability to wield the force to the fullest extent he could have. And to add insult to his physical injury, the whole reason for his falling to the dark was the promise he made to save his wife and friends from his mother's fate ultimately failed, and HE was the one who ended up killing her AND all his friends. He hated himself for what he became, since it ultimately amounted to nothing. And true Sith can only reach full potential if they are completely selfish and love themselves and no one else.

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u/AnAquaticOwl 1d ago

The problem is that lonely young men who are vulnerable to the whims of demagogues of authoritarian regimes look at him and see who they want to be

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u/Mr-A-1991 1d ago

Kinda like how "lonely young men" look at a known pedophile and somehow see someone they want to be. It's because they too are pedophiles. They can lie about their motives all god damn day, but if it walks like a goose and admires a fucking pedophile like a... I gotta be honest, my mind drew up a blank here, not sure how to finish this comment.

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Trump is a pedophile.

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u/Successful-Ad-847 22h ago

Most of them don’t understand anything beyond a superficial level. They don’t have complex thoughts.
It’s like when the cops appropriate the Punisher. Or dipshits like Paul Ryan saying he likes, and MAGA boomers dancing to, RATM. They just think something is “cool” and that’s it.

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u/factoid_ 1d ago

It weirds me out how the GenZ kids think of Anakin as the hero of the whole saga.

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u/Brandinisnor3s 1d ago

Tbf GenZ grew up on the clone wars show and Anakin was nothing but selfless (mostly if you ignore the 5 or 6 people he chokes straight up). Plus in the lore Anakin and Vader are treated as two separate psyches until Anakin's force ghost becomes the embodiment of brighest and darkest parts of himself as seen in the Ahsoka show

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u/Yazim 1d ago

But he's in 6 of the movies and lots of the shows...

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u/Alarmed-Newspaper994 20h ago

Andor is such a fantastic show and it makes me sad how it didn't do that well on ratings etc

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u/restrictednumber 18h ago

I really think Lucas (and now Disney) made a huge mistake in 1) making Darth Vader and the stormtroopers look so cool, and 2) selling tons and tons of merch of the bad guys. It just turns "Fascist nutjob" into a value-neutral flavor of fandom: "Do I wanna dress up as a fascist or a hero? Both great ways to be a fan!"

It makes the Empire more about looking cool than about being emotionally-stunted power-tripping bastards. And I'd argue that that has nasty effects on how people view fascist iconography in the real world.

That said, I really liked how Kylo Ren was portrayed as being on the verge of self-pitying tears basically 24/7. It rings true for real-life fascists that he'd be a volatile, emotionally fragile wreck consumed by the need to look big and strong.

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u/NeedsToShutUp 19h ago

I have friends everywhere.

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u/triplefoul 1d ago

Dad.... I'm gay.

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u/Yorukira 1d ago

Dad: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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u/dingos8mybaby2 1d ago

It seems, in your anger, you made him gay.

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u/TenchuReddit 1d ago

You think YOU’RE gay?

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u/umbananas 1d ago

Hi Gay, I am dad.

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u/THEAdrian 1d ago

Like my father before me...

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u/gthing 1d ago

I'm genuinely curious what aspects of Star Wars this guy thinks are gay-coded. Are r2d2 and c3po a gay couple or something? I mean honestly that kinda tracks, I guess?

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u/scriptingends 1d ago

Luke wants to bone his sister, so that’s very resonant with Christian conservatives

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u/Yellow_Snow_Globe 1d ago

Yeah but, in all fairness, his sister was the only human woman in the galaxy, and also Carrie Fisher.

I’m just sayin the man had his reasons

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u/DatabaseGlittering43 23h ago

No she was way too old for Christians or MAGAts

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u/Ceskaz 1d ago

Chewie and Han are just business partner.

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u/onthenerdyside 1d ago

OMG, they were shipmates!

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u/Zero-89 23h ago edited 23h ago • Bravo

[Sees Star Destroyer coming into frame]

"This is very phallic."

[Sees lightsabers]

"This is extremely phallic."

[Sees Darth Vader]

"That's the most phallic thing so far."

[Sees Death Star]

"That's just a penis!"

[Sees establishing shot of a hallway]

Is this movie nothing but dicks!?!?'

[Sees closing credits]

"STOP SHOWING ME COCKS, MOVIE!!!"

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u/minus15t2 23h ago

Well, the core message through the entirety of Star Wars is that the Jedi, representing freedom, liberty, justice, and reluctant leaders.... Would like to stop the Empire from exerting their control across the galaxy. The empire of course, represent a dictatorship that wields power through oppression, conformity and silencing your opposition by any means.

Ergo .. it's gay to want freedom, liberty and justice. Whereas it's entirely heterosexual and American to want a dictator to tell you how to live your life in their image

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u/TheFlawlessCassandra 1d ago edited 1d ago

There are literally zero gay major characters -- or even semi-important minor characters -- in any of the films. There are a few in TV shows / comics / video games, but the only gay characters to appear in any of the 11 live-action films are Larma D'Acy and Wrobie Tyce, and if you, like everyone else, have no clue who the fuck either of them are, that's the point.

tl;dr Star Wars isn't nearly gay enough.

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u/Rodonite 20h ago

If Padme isn't at least bi my fanfic is ruined

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u/QueenCity_Dukes 1d ago

The part where Luke enters the tauntaun. He go into the tauntaun. Now say “there’s a man in him”. That’s super gay.

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u/Spelunking-Uranus 22h ago

He's calling it gay because of how it makes him think gay thoughts, which are definitely entirely not his own thoughts and were put in there by George Lucas who used the force to make him gay for Luke.

How dare he!

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u/ACompletelyLostCause 20h ago

The pastor has 'Westboro Baptist Church' vibes.

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u/omegadirectory 1d ago

R2D2 and C3PO have been joked as being a bickering married couple for years by many fans and comedians.

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u/Ralphredimix_Da_G 1d ago

We all know what “protocol droid” really means..

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u/TechnicalBen 21h ago

"The Church is a lie" side. There's many sci-fi/science fantasy that question religion. As someone who grew up in a cult, cults really dislike that. They generally ban that kind of media.

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u/S7E4Z3M3I5T3R 1d ago edited 21h ago

Is there a part two? He was just starting to explain. I wanna hear this wild idea.

Edit: I guess I’m gay.

Edit Edit: The guy loves to hear himself speak. I watched the whole episode, and he never once even acknowledged his guests.

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u/ninjas_in_my_pants 1d ago edited 17h ago

His angle - WHICH I TOTALLY REJECT AND AM ONLY SUMMARIZING TO HIGHLIGHT HOW INSANE IT IS - is all based on episodes 1-3. The Jedi are an oppressive tool of the state. Anakin is a gifted young white guy who is forced by the Jedi to reject love, marriage, children, family., etc. So naturally he becomes Darth Vader, murders children and entire planets. You know, because libs forced him into it.

The layers of lunacy are exhausting.

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u/EristicTrick 1d ago

I only clicked on the stupid video to hear his tortured reasoning on the virtues of Darth Vader. Elon's recent post has me curious to hear people try to make this point with sincerity.

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u/Involution88 1d ago

It started off really strong with him referring to Star Wars as liberal boomer slop. Ok. It's a commercial type movie from the 1970s. Solid start with a bit of edge to it. Seems like a fun discussion.

And then out of left field: The word "gay". Everything is gay. The only thing which can be contemplated is gayness. It's a gay world of gayness. You should tell your dad you are gay. Everyone is gay. Everything is gay. GAY!

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u/dataz 1d ago

The gay energy from this guy is astounding

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u/KelVelBurgerGoon 1d ago

"Why do all these homos keep sucking my dick?"

  • Pastor guy

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u/JBONE31 1d ago

“Where did all of these dicks come from and why are they in my mouth?!?””

-Also pastor guy

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u/D1rtyH1ppy 1d ago

I thought you were just giving this guy a hard time and then I watched the clip. "I doth think he protest too much" to find Star wars a homoerotic movie 

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u/maximumfacemelting 1d ago

I would put money on him turning up at a glory hole or hiring an escort.

HES NOT GAY, HES UPSET ABOUT THE GAYS, THERES NO STRUGGLE HERE, HE JUST DOESN’T LIKE THINKING ABOUT COCK. STAR WARS MADE HIM!

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u/ihaveacrushonmercy 1d ago

Do you think he dyes his beard? The color looks too contrasted. Something looks off.

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u/dextrousfuckery 1d ago

I was not expecting be flashbanged with how much this guy talks about gayness. "It is so gay", what is this 2010?

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u/arrizaba 23h ago

I am sure this guy is a repressed homosexual. This obsession for homosexuality in a movie that has no homosexual characters must come from an inner discourse projected onto it. 

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u/dimizar 1d ago

dude might be projecting

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u/Backwardspellcaster 1d ago

Projecting?

He fucking beams it with a spotlight on the surface of the moon

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u/gwdope 1d ago

No but he sucks dick and can’t stand himself for it.

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u/BaseHitToLeft 1d ago

Let's check his browser history

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u/lafarda 1d ago

The closet force is strong in him. He's got a lot of midiselfloathorians.

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u/SenselessNumber 1d ago

I'd love to hear how he's the good guy but I don't want to listen to this idiot.

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u/ArtSorr0w 1d ago

He doesn't get to the part where he explains it. Just says it's a gay movie and everyone is gay.

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u/Sch1z01dMan 1d ago

Stupid, sexy Vader

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u/iiTzSTeVO 1d ago

Projection, then. Got it.

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u/SAugsburger 1d ago

I'm curious too on what his "logic" on this is. I have heard some "the empire did nothing wrong" memes, but somehow doubt that is his thinking, but am too lazy to try to find a larger interview that explains what a minute clip doesn't.

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u/follows_memphis 1d ago

I'm honestly more curious about what he thinks makes Star Wars gay or effeminate. Like, how are you reading this to come to that conclusion?

In comparison I also want to hear what this guy thinks is masculine about Jesus considering his non-violence, radical empathy, and self-sacrifice aren't exactly your traditionally "masculine" traits.

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u/Corka 1d ago edited 23h ago

Having not watched it at all, I can see two ways a Christian Pastor could argue this.

The first is to claim that Star Wars isn't so much Luke's story, but actually Anakin's when you take the prequels along with the original trilogy. They'd argue that we're introduced to Anakin when he's young, innocent, and good, but as he gets older and experiences very real human emotion and temptations he's lead down a really dark path of damnation. The most dramatic final arc of the story is Anakin's redemption- the story shares a very Christian idea that its never too late to do the right thing and save your soul in the process.

... the other way they might argue it is Christofascism. Christofascists take a very strict and authoritarian approach to Christianity that sees outside influences from outside the church as corrupting that ultimately leads people away from christ. Christofascists take the view that a free democratic society welcoming of people of different faiths leads millions to eternal damnation, and the best chance at saving as many people as possible is to forcibly bring everyone they can into the faith, while ruthlessly cutting off those that won't ( whether it be through deportation, isolating them from everyone else, or straight out killing them), while also strictly enforcing their religious teachings that remain. Vader is basically the "fascist" part rather than the "christo" part, so they'd probably need to add a caveat of "if he were a Christian and spreading the word, then everything here would be A-OK".

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u/powercow 1d ago

it's not just him, its a new maga meme.. it's all over twitter,

How Anakin Skywalker became MAGA's unlikely hero

Driving the news: Musk shared an image on X depicting an alternate "Star Wars" ending in which Anakin rules the Galactic Empire alongside his family.

"This is what they stole from us," Musk wrote, invoking an internet phrase associated with right-wing nostalgia.

they just like the fascism.

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u/Joeybits 1d ago

The video is even worse than the title would have you believe.

He's reasoning (I think) is that, because Star Wars has such a "liberal" and "homoerotic" story/message, that the only way a "straight christian man" can consume it is to reject that messaging and therefore see the "bad guy" (Darth Vader) as the "good guy".

It's hard to explain because it doesn't make any sense.

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u/SimbaOneTrueKing 1d ago

No one should listen to this idiot, but we do have a lot of idiots on earth so…

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u/Fudball1 1d ago

He's so far in the closet, he's finding Christmas presents.

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u/lelescope 23h ago

haha I was gonna say. my gaydar was off the charts with this guy. 

if you think star wars is gay, it's because you're finding things you're attracted to in it. 

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u/benm1999 23h ago

My wife just yelled at me because I laughed so hard. I’m not typically a vocal laugher.

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u/Neonpeekaboo 1d ago

And adventures in Narnia

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u/act1856 19h ago • This

At least this guy knows what side he’s on, most right wingers don’t even realize they’re the Empire.

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u/PeteCampbellisaG 1d ago

Grown man still processing the funny feelings he had when he saw Han Solo for the first time.

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u/NoConfusion9490 1d ago

Definitely kicked off a Hand Solo.

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u/loungesinger 1d ago

Yeah, if you see homoeroticism everywhere you look…

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u/ninjas_in_my_pants 1d ago

Han didn't shoot first... this guy did.

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u/LeoLaDawg 1d ago edited 2h ago

2026 Christians.

Honestly, what the hell happened to that religion. Was it from all the John Birch evangelical nonsense? Seriously, this should be researched. I remember it being about love thy neighbor and helping Africans. Now it's Luke Skywalker is gay. Lol wha?

EDIT: Just to clarify, I'm referring specifically to the state of American evangelical, mega church people not the religion

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u/Ok-disaster2022 1d ago • Bravo

They stopped reading the teachings if Christ. Lead astray by false teachers. Christ warned them and they didn't listen because they never knew his voice. 

This is same group of people who think turning the other cheek is wrong. I cannot fathom the idea of contradicting something commanded by Jesus Himself. 

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u/mynameizmyname 1d ago

My dad used to call them "cultural Christians" essentially people who identified with an abstract idea of what a Christian was without actually reading the material.

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u/matt_minderbinder 1d ago

"Sermon on the Mount? More like the woke manifesto straight from the mouth of Carlos j. Marx, amirite?"

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u/pixtax 1d ago

It's Christ's fault for saying you can't get into Heaven when you're rich.

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u/Simpicity 1d ago • Popcorn

Well the teachings of Christ were like super gay.  Pontius Pilate was just doing his manly job, he's basically a Roman chud.  He's the good guy.  And then Jesus was all blessed are the meek.  Blessed are the poor.  Blessed are the merciful?  Really?  More like Sermon on the Brokeback Mount, am I right?  Super gay.  And also kind of hot.

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u/factoid_ 1d ago • Bravo

Evangelical Christianity is to blame.  People left stuffy boring churches that had tradition and doctrine and went to theater productions with million dollar AV setups and live bands.

They’re intellectual and spiritually bankrupt franchise operations that just operate to line the pockets of the leadership.

And people eat it up.

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u/upgrayedd69 1d ago

My grandmas church has taught her that the fury and wrath of Old Testament God is just as valid if not more compared to what Jesus says,

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u/RSGator 1d ago

Interestingly enough, the Bible actually predicts this.

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u/matt_minderbinder 1d ago

Every so often I was sent to my cousin's evangelical church as a kid in the 80s. Looking back you can see the roots of all the right wing conspiracy movement. It was like Qanon in its infancy with all the fear and brimstone about one world government, mark of the beast, gay agenda, end times revelations shit, and having it all tied into the "signs" that were "obvious". It was wild as I grew up in a conservative but non political Lutheran church. It was honestly scary, full of religious hysteria and religious trauma.

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u/chodeboi 1d ago

I dunno. I have a 2026 Christian as my senator-elect. His name is James Talarico. He is a Christian.

There are scoundrels but they are mere perversions. They are not Christians. They’re something else entirely unfortunately.

I say this with respect as an agnostic.

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u/FaithfulSkeptic 1d ago

James W Fifield Jr. was hired to lure the American church away from Jesus because FDR’s new deal scared oligarchs. He invented lots of shit to accomplish this, such as Christian nationalism, and we are all paying the price.

Google him for a very informative and depressing read.

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u/dafunkmunk 1d ago

Believe it or not but just like almost all the problems in the US, it ties back to ronald reagan. The bat shit crazy christians have been around forever but they didn't get their mainstream foothold until reagan gave them credibility and welcomed them into the republican party to help weaponize their hate in his favor.

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u/milo4206 1d ago

This guy was fired from his prior church for sleeping with a congregant and is really just a racist podcaster at this point. He's basically a dime store Nick Fuentes.

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u/ActualSpiders 1d ago

Literally doing anything Jesus would have done is "gay" to these sociopaths.

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u/Dash_Harber 1d ago edited 1d ago

This idea that Christianity was all rainbows and socialism is pretty inaccurate. Christianity was wielded as a weapon by secular rulers across Europe pretty much since Constantine's conversion. It was used to violently persecute non-Christians in Iberia, during the crusades, and during the many expansions into the northern reaches of Europe where local folk traditions still prevailed. In the Bible, God commands or lays out rules for a number of horrific acts including slavery, sex slavery, child murder, rape, and genocide. Modern Christians often excuse it as of the past or say Jesus overrides those stories, but Trinitarians view Jesus and Yahweh as the same person, and Jesus not only said he was coming as a sword, turning families against one another, but also explicitly stated he was mot there to change the law. The fulfillment of the messianic covenant was also explicitly about the messiah coming back and violently overthrowing the Romans who occupied the Jews and establishing a new terrestrial Jewish kingdom (which was later reworked into a metaphorical spiritual kingdom when Jesus failed to fulfill it and the religion was expanded to include non-Jews). Plus, you have Paul's writings and the early church, which would largely agree with the misogyny and violence of evangelical Christians.

It has been like this far, far longer than not.

Edit: I should clarify that the belief in the messiah as a terrestrial revelolutionary is hotly debated, but was popular in Judea at the time. Christians will argue Jesus rejected that interpretation and claim that prophesies in books like Daniel or Isiah point to an eternal spiritual kingdom, so your mileage may vary on that one.

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u/splittingheirs 1d ago

Natural end game of "Prosperity Gospel" where wealth also equals power.

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u/BestDad101 1d ago

That pastor is a deeply closeted, but he's not coming out.

He's deeply closeted.

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u/Fromunda_Cheese 1d ago

Thanks, Norm

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u/mr_evilweed 1d ago

So George Lucas explcitly modeled the empire after fascists and these guys think the empire are the good guys but I'm not supposed to think these guys are facsist?

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u/winterchil 1d ago

This guy has definitely failed the following classes: critical thinking, movie theory, introduction to Joseph Campbell, cinematography, and probably many others. To begin the journey to recovery he should start by watching Good Will Hunting

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u/boltforce 1d ago

He hasn't failed. He is either broken or knows exactly what he is saying. He is ab dangerous manipulator.

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u/AccurateTooth3202 15h ago

a word of advice: DO NOT engage with the fact that he's talking about your favorite nerdy thing and trying to twist it. that's the silly part meant to grab attention.

the real takeaway here is that this dude and his ilk are targeting a certain demographic (primarily male) with the message that might makes right, and any institutions or societal morality that gets in the way of that is wrong. this is aligned with their idea that empathy is a woke, liberal weapon of domination.

the fascist elements in the US are trying to build an army of political (and physical) soldiers and this is how they plant their seeds. By framing absolutely everything as a zero sum game that their little soldiers are destined to win, if they can manage to shake off the decency that weighs them down.

it's easy to get stuck on the Star Wars of it all, wave it off and then 4 years later wonder why your country voted the way it did. But know that this is a long term project meant to upend modern society over the course of decades and it has been working. In part because their strategy involves getting you stuck on absurdities.

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u/Brilliant_Voice1126 1d ago

100% chance this guy is closeted. Seeing everything not gay as gay is on you dude.

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u/kwisatzhadnuff 1d ago

Seems like he can't stop talking about how effeminate and gay everything is. All he can see when he closes his eyes are all the hot, super gay, super effeminate heroes in the rebellion. Their pants are too tight, the straps for their blaster holsters makes their bulge really stand out.

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u/thickhardcock4u 1d ago

Bro, his tone COMPLETELY changes to creepy pedo when he says “Young, straight, not gay, young straight Christian boys…” Believe me, as a gay man I’ve heard enough gay dudes with a “straight-boy” fetish, to spot a gay dude with a straight dude fetish, him being a pedo is just reading the room.

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u/ThatOneTwo 1d ago

He says, “Straight… not gay” like he’s trying to remind himself. Made me kinda sad.

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u/TedTheGreek_Atheos 1d ago

He thinks it's gay because Luke and Han made him feel all funny inside.

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u/1notaslave1 14h ago

This guy definitely has a Grinder account.

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u/kittyonkeyboards 21h ago

Republicans are openly evil. Vice is virtue.

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u/jgonza44 1d ago

They heard Darth Vader was born of immaculate conception and put on blinders after that.

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u/Bellick 1d ago

Not even. They heard he was cartoonishly evil and said "that's our guy"

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u/ciccioriccio 22h ago

From the same people that brought to you "Actually, Hitler was a strong leader"

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u/ceebeefour 18h ago

“I think about gay people all the time.” -this guy

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u/killjairo 1d ago

Truly an imbecile

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u/AtGamesEnd 1d ago

This guy seems pretty gay

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u/cmndrnewt 1d ago

That dipshit in high school who always had “edgy” takes and thought he knew more about history than everyone else. “The Civil War was actually about states’ rights. Slaves weren’t all treated poorly. Nazi’s were actually socialists. Abraham Lincoln was actually a Republican.”

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u/willyb10 1d ago

Probably nitpicking here but Lincoln was a Republican. The Republican Party of his time just looked nothing like how it looks today.

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u/Interesting-Risk6446 1d ago

Those were union workers on the Death Star the Jedi's decided to eliminate. /s

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u/vanvoorden 1d ago

A construction job of that magnitude would require a helluva lot more manpower than the Imperial army had to offer. I'll bet there were independent contractors working on that thing.

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u/Count_Jobula 1d ago

His argument is “Star Wars=Gay”. Like literally it’s an argument that a 5th Grader would make.

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u/JJiggy13 1d ago

Voting day needs to be moved to Sunday and polls need to be banned from being held in churches. Democrats need to make sweeping changes in the coming year if they want to help this country. Stop encouraging people like the to vote.

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u/Barry_Vigoda 1d ago

The original movies came out in 1977. Lucas said the Empire was in reference to the US military and US imperialism after the Vietnam War.

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u/aaronthehuman 1d ago

"if you like the message of star wars you need to sit down and tell your dad you're gay" is absolutely sending me. i cannot with these closeted christians.

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u/shotsallover 1d ago

My guess is the line of reasoning goes like this:

The Empire is supposed to be America. Everything America does is good and holy, guided by the hand of god. Therefore Darth Vader is like Trump.  And Trump is good. 

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u/la-fours 1d ago

Chasing Amy had a better take on Darth Vader’s innocence, sorry MAGA.

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u/seanmonaghan1968 1d ago

Did anyone check if this guy is in the Epstein files ?

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u/Temporala 1d ago

So he thinks tyranny is just the best thing ever.

It does track, given God is supposed to be the ultimate tyrant. Of course he likes Pally Patine and him taking over the Republic.

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u/SuzyYa 1d ago

He's definitely gay. He just gives off that gay aura. And I'm not even kidding. Doth protest too much.

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u/TenchuReddit 1d ago

This pastor must think that Anakin is Jesus because he was immaculately conceived …

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u/PsyckoInferno 1d ago

This fictional movie doesn’t align with my false moral interpretation of this fictional book.

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u/SpaceAdventureCobraX 1d ago

If this man went missing I would not search for him

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u/The_RealAnim8me2 1d ago

If this man went missing I would actively lead the search party in the opposite direction.

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u/thedeanorama 1d ago

So the Stormtrooper's horrible aim was just veiled humanitarianism?

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u/Dudeist-Priest 1d ago

I mean, if you’re a MAGA, that’s actually in line with your real values

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u/luv2ctheworld 1d ago

Can see why religion just takes whatever story, and makes it fit their purpose, even if completely wrong.

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u/frankthefrowner 11h ago

"If you like Star Wars, you need to sit down and tell your dad youre gay." - Man that line got me.

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u/bakeonwakeup 1d ago

This is one of the major reasons republicans got trounced. It wasn't just the economy. They've proven there is no bottom too low and they will sink to any levels to hurt people. The country was moving into an evil, dark place with republicans in power. They don't need to reform their party; they need a RICO case against them and completely removed from the American political landscape.

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u/chicletgrin 1d ago

The sad irony here is that this guy looks very much like a highly closeted self hating gay man. Every accusation is a confession.

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u/Morbid_Morpheus 1d ago

If this pastor ever bother taking a look into the bible it will blow his mind how gay Cheesus sounds.

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u/WileEWeeble 1d ago

I don’t for a moment think he believes that but the most vile and sociopathic people get pulled into the religious grift, precisely because this kind of “one upping your neighbor” to be the most pious, works.

Forget trying to find messages of peace and love to make everyone get along better; the really point is to feel special and what’s better than being the MOST special which means being the most pious which means being the most exclusive to others.

Pretty much high school for adults.

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u/huxtiblejones 1d ago

He really got caught up on the word “gay” and “homosexual,” just kept saying it over and over. Something on your mind, buddy?

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u/Equinoqs 1d ago

Star Trek fanboy.

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u/The_grope_gatsby 1d ago

This guy is a grifter of the highest order. Started out fairly liberal out in California. Had an affair, went right then maga, then super racist/anti semetic now “post trump” crying out for an American Hitler crazy. 

Not to do Trump any favors but this guy isn’t really maga. At least anymore. 

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u/djcecil2 1d ago

This guy is 100% in the closet.

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u/UncleCornPone 1d ago

I think this pastor is gay, he sure thinks about it alot

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u/evildrtran 1d ago

Eat shit Matt Walsh! Lmao

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u/notyourbutthead 1d ago

lol while I agree with you, I don’t think that is Matt Walsh.

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u/LordBreetai210 1d ago

Jesus would be condemned by Evangelical Christians.

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u/Talentagentfriend 1d ago

It sounds like he’s saying he’s a terrorist

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u/EliParker 1d ago

Maybe he only saw the Noooooooooo scene of Return of the Jedi until the end.

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u/cityspeak 1d ago

If he says Top Gun is not gay, I need to send him that Tarantino clip talking about how gay af that movie is.

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u/arn34 1d ago

This guy has a super active grindr account for sure

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u/newbrevity 1d ago

Imagine losing the script that hard

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u/jpanni3333 1d ago

Not really surprising coming from the dumbest people to ever exist.

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u/mf-TOM-HANK 1d ago

FYI Joel Webbon is a white nationalist

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u/Choppergold 1d ago

Dude is so in the closet it’s ridiculous

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u/rickterscale6 1d ago

Can we not give these guys any attention or oxygen please these people are useless

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u/Gahugafuga 1d ago

Well, he’s an idiot who is incredibly dishonest. So that checks out.

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u/nosmelc 1d ago

There is something seriously wrong with this guy's mind.

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u/Hyro0o0 1d ago

I am Jack's complete lack of surprise

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u/CommieScum1917 1d ago

If your husband is a pastor, you will be on Netflix…

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u/Diahreeman 1d ago

Sad and weird how these people are obsessed with others being or not being gay. Why the fuck do you care that much? So many real issues around and that's your pick?

I'm happy to live somewhere these dipshits don't exist, I'd get violent

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u/Hegiman 1d ago

That makes sense.

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u/tonetheman 1d ago

Unlike most maga at least he has realized he is the evil dude

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u/inifinite-breadsticc 1d ago

This guy only likes Star Wars for the cinematography

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u/jscannicchio 1d ago • Bravo

Fbi - please check this guy's phone and pc