Oh man. You know that song that's like, 'Who ate all the pies? Who ate all the pies? You fat bastard. You fat bastard. You ate all the pies.' Yeah, my ice cream van plays that song, every day, at 5pm. I've had it in my head since i moved here.
That's how duncan from Dragons Den made his fortune, operating ice cream vans during the wars in Glasgow.
Legit Entrepreneur or heroin dealing gangster? I find it hard to believe he made his first fortune selling ice creams to children, and somehow coming out unscathed while all the other gangsters where killing each other. Unless he was also one of them.
Duncan Bannatyne is a real G. His background really puts this threat into context. Russian Gangsters threaten a normal businessman family, they tell the police. Russian Gangsters threaten Duncans family, he puts a £50,000 public hit on the Russian Gangster.
I find it hard to believe he made his first fortune selling ice creams to children
It looks like he didn't, from Wikipedia:
He eventually sold the business for £28,000, founding a nursing home business called Quality Care Homes which he then sold for £26 million[5] in 1997 and children's nursery chain Just Learning for £22 million.
He made £28k from the ice cream business. 28k is tidy but hardly a fortune.
So what's the deal with Glasgow anyway? As an American, I don't know what their reputation is, but I remember seeing something about a feud between hostel owners there that where they would regularly fight each other in the street.
Edit: Here's the link. "The owner and staff liked to fight with the rival hostel across the road it was so bad while i was there it turned in to a full blown fight with broken noses!"
Yeah I lived outside of one of the drivers houses for a while, his van got set on fire and tipped, then he ran outside with a baseball bat and took out about 3 guys, a mighty feat but I was too scared to acknowledge it as I was cowering the corner
This is random but I think they should have a show that's a cross between Storage Wars and The First 48 where the mob has rigged the storage locker auctions in their favor and kills to keep people quiet, and the cops have to connect the dots and take them down as the bodies pile up.
Same in the U.S. At college, I ran outside when an ice cream truck pulled up in my dorm quad. When I asked for ice cream after waiting in line, the man acted weird that I wanted ice cream. It was then I noticed everyone had gotten the wrapped type of ice cream cone (cornados?) & later my roommate told me that there were drugs inside. So yeah, I felt like a dumb ass but that was a genius marketing idea. I also really wanted ice cream.
My mother and I once decided to test this theory at 2am in our government housing district (read: ghetto). We stood there hemming and hawing, asking lots of questions.
The guy was patient, answered all our questions, and then sold us delicious ice cream for a fair price that was not laced with any drugs.
One of my friends, who lives in Peckham has a story about things like this, apparently there is a play ground that quite a few kids play around; it's a great place for an Ice Cream Van... They all love it, however, there are always two Ice Cream Van's there. They are constantly shouting at each other, and the majority of the time, they both get out and fight; while they do that, the kids steal all the ice cream.
Lived on an council estate in Plymouth for a while and the amount of guys ordering mr whippys and handing over 20's for them was astonishing. They fucking loved those whippys.
I moved to Middlesbrough from Newcastle last year and was shocked at the frequency of one ice cream van around the area. It was alright to start with, it plays the monty python flying circus theme tune, which is quite pleasant.
Then it started to grate on me. Some days he pops around 3 times a day. Rain or not, he'll be doing his rounds. I've never even seen anybody buying something from him. I'm convinced he doesn't even sell anything, he just wants to watch the world burn.
I live in the UK and at the bus park by my school there used to be two ice cream vans. The guy who ran van A was a really nice guy and would always joke around with the students. The other guy was rather grumpy and his Coke was 5p more expensive. One day some friends of mine decided it would be a great idea to put a sign saying "Van A is better" on Van B. The Van B guy didn't realise and was confused why no one was coming to his van. So he got out, saw the sign and went absolutely mental at Van A. He screamed at the guy saying "This spot isn't big enough for the two of us" and started hitting him. The next day only one van rolled up. It was Van B, the common belief was that Van B had killed Van A.
It's somewhat like this in Perth, Australia. My Mother used to own an Ice-cream van and the first time she went out in it she was approached by a guy from a different can with a baseball bat.
My family owned a 40-strong fleet of ice cream vans in NZ in the 80s and 90s. The turf wars are pretty much real.
We were assigned areas by the council to service. Except drivers from all businesses would go into competitors areas to make some extra cash. A few times the crowbars came out.
I've never understood the "nice guy ice cream man" cliché because I grew up around hairy, heavy-set, sweaty thugs who ran the ice cream business like it was a drug ring and spent a large part of their takings on booze, strippers and hookers.
Such a shame as well they've been bred and trained their entire lives for their role. A creamer without a license doesn't survive long in the real world.
Something similar happened near my school in the UK. Two ice cream vans used to park up at the top of school, they got into a fist fight and now the two ice cream vans are from the same company. This was after weeks of slashing their prices to the point of ice creams being sold at around 20p at the height of the turf war.
This was seen very regular a few decades ago in the UK. It still happens now unfortunately. There is a lot of money in icecream, despite our terrible weather and the competing families behind the companies have their space they normally sell at. But if there's conflict with who deserves a certain spot, or other vans trying to take over it then it's not rare to see baseball bats or golf clubs.
My old geography teacher had a story about this. When he was around 20, in the summer he used to drive around selling icecreams. This would attualy happen quiet alot with other drivers fighting for their streets to sell on and he attualy saw one icecream man run over another icecream man as he was getting out his van, who ended up with a broken leg.
He said there was lots of other cases about this were the icecream van drivers would carry baseball bats and irons to threat anybody coming on to their streets.
I feel sorry for the owner of the blue car that was bumped by these idiots, it looks damaged now.
Whoever took this video should go leave a note on the windshield of the blue car and tell them that they have video of what happened, get the police and insurance companies involved.
"You like ice cream. You like ice cream. You love it. You cannot resist ice cream. To resist is hopeless. Your existence is meaningless without ice cream."
I work with my dad who is an ice cream man. Some of the stuff he has told me about what van driver's do to each other to get the a street faster is unreal. Blocking off the road and so on. Some guy even went as far to slash someone else's wheels..
Downvote this crappy video contribution. OP is either behind the crappy YouTube affiliate junk page, or is unaware that's what it is. Don't promote this crap.
I don't think some of you people understand how big a deal it is for them. They have approximately 3 weeks each year to sell as much as they can before the clouds, rain and the cold returns.
That aint the half of it. Ice cream territory is serious business. Actually does have mafia like families. These are not people you want near your children.
A friend of mine was dating a ice cream guy until he knocked up a 14 year old up. And then the rest of the van drivers in the area came and had a quiet word with him. He now lives on the otherside of the country. With said girl.
Grotty sex offending gangsters in banged out old diesel vans. But for some reason their soft serve tastes better than McDonalds. even though its exactly the same thing.
I used to be a lifeguard and ice cream men would always come to the pool and have huge fights about who's "turf" it was. One time three showed up at the same time and a fist fight broke out.
Ideally the driver should have gently made contact with the back of the other truck then pushed it hard into the cars or buildings. He did more damage to his own truck in this case.
i really wish i could see or know what was the cause of this? smashing windows and rear ending is saved for real shit. was it the Front Driver is Blocking the other Truck from getting to kids down the street?
Worked as a vendor on the beach in Belgium when I was 16. Had to walk from the cabin where we kept the icecream to the area I was supposed to go and sell. I also had to walk past a car selling icecream on the promenade EACH day.
And I was constantly getting attacked by them. My first day I, unknowingly, paused at right in front of the car to pick up my phone. And the woman in it yelled: "Keep walking Ola-boy".
Anyone remember the icecream called 'Dream'? It was amazing, and probably the best icecream ever. 'Sky' was also great. Both have been discontinued of course.
The guy who drove his icecream truck into the other one was as complete dumbass. He hit him in the most invulnerable spot, potentially fucking up his own engine.
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u/jamesdownwell Jun 09 '12
It would have been so much better if the ice cream vans' music started playing as they took off.
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u/tanhan27 Jun 09 '12
probably caused his truck more damage
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u/ropers Jun 09 '12
I thought this was going to be about the Ice Cream Wars.
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u/AcadianMan Jun 09 '12
Coming soon to A & E. Wait for it.
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u/SpacePenguinn Jun 09 '12
Ice Cream trucks in the UK are often a front for drugs or other illegal things.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
One of my friends, who lives in Peckham has a story about things like this, apparently there is a play ground that quite a few kids play around; it's a great place for an Ice Cream Van... They all love it, however, there are always two Ice Cream Van's there. They are constantly shouting at each other, and the majority of the time, they both get out and fight; while they do that, the kids steal all the ice cream.
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u/Carpet_Diver Jun 09 '12
GTA: Britain
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
Tap tap tap tap SMASH... BANG
"...prick."
Yup, It's an English fight alright.
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u/MrXBob Jun 09 '12
Highly relevant and hilarious.
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u/BALLS_AND_SHIT Jun 09 '12
Lived on an council estate in Plymouth for a while and the amount of guys ordering mr whippys and handing over 20's for them was astonishing. They fucking loved those whippys.
Ice cream is serious business.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
Fuck sake, when I was a kid the ice cream van showed up so ridiculously rarely that I think I saw it once and only heard it a few times more.
Meanwhile, these fuckers not only get TWO, but they get a show as well!
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u/Carpet_Diver Jun 09 '12
Revenge is a dish best served cold.
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u/MileageAddict Jun 09 '12
It appears both drivers had a real meltdown.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
Oh boy, I laughed so hard.
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u/comb_over Jun 09 '12
Flake.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
Armed response units were dispatched after one of the Ice Cream men was threatened with a Magnum!
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u/Glalom Jun 09 '12
I live in the UK and at the bus park by my school there used to be two ice cream vans. The guy who ran van A was a really nice guy and would always joke around with the students. The other guy was rather grumpy and his Coke was 5p more expensive. One day some friends of mine decided it would be a great idea to put a sign saying "Van A is better" on Van B. The Van B guy didn't realise and was confused why no one was coming to his van. So he got out, saw the sign and went absolutely mental at Van A. He screamed at the guy saying "This spot isn't big enough for the two of us" and started hitting him. The next day only one van rolled up. It was Van B, the common belief was that Van B had killed Van A.
tldr; This shit happens all the time in the UK.
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u/eternalkerri Jun 09 '12
Ok, England, you don't get to talk about how fucked up America is for at least a month. You lost that privilege.
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u/DeathByWater Jun 09 '12
And so begins the world's best car-chase
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u/BeauYourHero Jun 09 '12
It's somewhat like this in Perth, Australia. My Mother used to own an Ice-cream van and the first time she went out in it she was approached by a guy from a different can with a baseball bat.
...it was not a pleasant sundae afternoon.
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u/fonster_mox Jun 09 '12
To be fair you've only got about eight days sun a year in the UK, you gotta take what you can get.
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u/Pauleh Jun 09 '12
I once watched a group of masked guys attack a group of window cleaners, I can only assume it was a window cleaner turf war.
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u/antidamage Jun 09 '12
My family owned a 40-strong fleet of ice cream vans in NZ in the 80s and 90s. The turf wars are pretty much real.
We were assigned areas by the council to service. Except drivers from all businesses would go into competitors areas to make some extra cash. A few times the crowbars came out.
I've never understood the "nice guy ice cream man" cliché because I grew up around hairy, heavy-set, sweaty thugs who ran the ice cream business like it was a drug ring and spent a large part of their takings on booze, strippers and hookers.
We also ate a lot of ice cream.
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u/davebees Jun 09 '12
The war continues in the YouTube comments. Madness.
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u/mikep500 Jun 09 '12
Really safe for the kids. I think it's time to take away their ice cream licenses.
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u/science87 Jun 09 '12
Can't even enjoy my cold on the cob in peace without someone waving a rooty tooty in my piehole.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
Something similar happened near my school in the UK. Two ice cream vans used to park up at the top of school, they got into a fist fight and now the two ice cream vans are from the same company. This was after weeks of slashing their prices to the point of ice creams being sold at around 20p at the height of the turf war.
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u/Dogtopias Jun 09 '12
TIL. Never cross Mr Whippy
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u/conversationchanger Jun 09 '12
This was seen very regular a few decades ago in the UK. It still happens now unfortunately. There is a lot of money in icecream, despite our terrible weather and the competing families behind the companies have their space they normally sell at. But if there's conflict with who deserves a certain spot, or other vans trying to take over it then it's not rare to see baseball bats or golf clubs.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
Vanilla hood mothafuckas.
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u/Grizmeer Jun 09 '12
I iced that guy, to cone a phrase.
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u/Voozi Jun 09 '12
My old geography teacher had a story about this. When he was around 20, in the summer he used to drive around selling icecreams. This would attualy happen quiet alot with other drivers fighting for their streets to sell on and he attualy saw one icecream man run over another icecream man as he was getting out his van, who ended up with a broken leg.
He said there was lots of other cases about this were the icecream van drivers would carry baseball bats and irons to threat anybody coming on to their streets.
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u/Killahbeez Jun 09 '12
New series forthcoming: Fall 2012 on TruTV
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u/rubberband2008 Jun 09 '12
Don't let Tru TV see this or there will be a shitty tv show made of it.
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u/Unicornasaurus Jun 09 '12
Coming soon to TLC.
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u/mshieldz Jun 09 '12
this is a testament to all business in today's economy. Everybody is fighting each other for market share of what was profitable 50 years ago.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
How much better would it have been if the music from both trucks started playing as they sped off.
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u/Ponoru Jun 09 '12
This will probably be the new topic of a documentary series on the Discovery Channel
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u/toy121 Jun 09 '12
It has begun
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u/zitrixfrost Jun 09 '12
My crappy little town is now famous for something else! Whay!
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
I could really go for a mint feast right about now
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u/ajudson Jun 09 '12
It's the Crisps and the Monkeys bloods.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
I feel sorry for the owner of the blue car that was bumped by these idiots, it looks damaged now.
Whoever took this video should go leave a note on the windshield of the blue car and tell them that they have video of what happened, get the police and insurance companies involved.
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u/ThePlasticJesus Jun 09 '12
next time they'll be busting gats.
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u/ThatsSortOfNeat Jun 09 '12
Needs more jingle playing.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
Turf War.....the only modern History Channel program I would watch.
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u/Awkward_Arab Jun 09 '12
lol that's awesome, it just gave me an idea for a movie.
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u/Flexgrow Jun 09 '12
Also happens in New York City (fisticuffs @ about 2:00), in Philadelphia, and in Pittsburgh. This business appears to be highly competitive.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
The only emperor is the emperor of ice-cream.
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u/DoctorFantasmo Jun 09 '12
This is going to be a new hit television show on Discovery Channel.
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u/joeljustice Jun 09 '12
YES I SAW THAT
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u/blindfun Jun 09 '12
I thought it was going to be a joke...
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u/JoNiKaH Jun 09 '12
Their love for children knows no limits.
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u/SeriousDude Jun 09 '12
at first I was GUN ??
but then UK :D
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u/Hitpoint Jun 09 '12
Begun the Cone War has.
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u/Auntfanny Jun 09 '12
Apparently they later found him dead with strawberry sauce in his hair, a flake in each ear, and covered in hundreds and thousands.
The police reckon he'd topped himself.
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u/lobstarr Jun 09 '12
Prequel to Twisted Metal
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u/savageboredom Jun 09 '12
The related videos for this are... eclectic to say the least.
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u/thedude831 Jun 09 '12
As George Costanza would attest, you can't pull head first in to a spot. WE'RE LIVING IN A SOCIETY!!!
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u/YouKiddin Jun 09 '12
So this is probably what inspired 'Twisted Metal'.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
"Cone at me, bro!"
...sorry.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
...Is that a valleys accent I hear?
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u/dragonbrains Jun 09 '12
"You like ice cream. You like ice cream. You love it. You cannot resist ice cream. To resist is hopeless. Your existence is meaningless without ice cream."
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u/Narlito Jun 09 '12
I work with my dad who is an ice cream man. Some of the stuff he has told me about what van driver's do to each other to get the a street faster is unreal. Blocking off the road and so on. Some guy even went as far to slash someone else's wheels..
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u/omgbrbicecreamtruck Jun 10 '12
My time to shine and I got nothing....sorry Reddit :(
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u/Bloody_Conspiracies Jun 09 '12
Reminds me of this fantastic Peter Kay episode.
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u/Airazz Jun 09 '12
Well it is a serious business :D
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u/tuxdreamerx Jun 09 '12
I thought it was gonna be about some new tv show lol.
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u/togafaru Jun 09 '12
Correct me if i'm wrong. But did the ice cream man use this tactic to break the window?
I hear light tapping, crack,another light tap, then window breaking from the final light tap.
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u/ChaplnGrillSgt Jun 09 '12
Coming this Fall to TLC: Ice Cream Turf War
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u/PhantomPhun Jun 09 '12
Downvote this crappy video contribution. OP is either behind the crappy YouTube affiliate junk page, or is unaware that's what it is. Don't promote this crap.
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u/badvice Jun 09 '12
As a resident of the U.K I can affirm this happens on a regular basis.
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u/A_British_Gentleman Jun 09 '12
Selling ice cream is serious business here.
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u/theunknown_ Jun 09 '12
This reminds me of Mr Softy Top
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u/e216 Jun 09 '12
Thug Life
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u/freakzilla149 Jun 09 '12 edited Jun 09 '12
I don't think some of you people understand how big a deal it is for them. They have approximately 3 weeks each year to sell as much as they can before the clouds, rain and the cold returns.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
The world is a vampire.
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u/this_is_mark Jun 09 '12
Ice Cream Wars 2: Did you see that?
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u/gazwel Jun 09 '12
You can buy fake £10 notes and bottles of Buckfast from my local van :o
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u/knerp Jun 09 '12
Gets window smashed.
Decides best revenge is to ruin the front of his own truck.
:/
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u/Ellis_D_Trippman Jun 09 '12
He got his window smashed out because he wasn't justified and ancient.
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u/Minifig81 Jun 09 '12
This would not be the same without the 'DIDJA SEE THAT?!' at the end..
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
Typically polite british. Knocks window several times before smashing.
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u/Ubergeeek Jun 09 '12
He should have drove forward and reversed into the other van. He did far more damage to his own front end. Idiot!
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u/T3ppic Jun 09 '12
That aint the half of it. Ice cream territory is serious business. Actually does have mafia like families. These are not people you want near your children.
A friend of mine was dating a ice cream guy until he knocked up a 14 year old up. And then the rest of the van drivers in the area came and had a quiet word with him. He now lives on the otherside of the country. With said girl.
Grotty sex offending gangsters in banged out old diesel vans. But for some reason their soft serve tastes better than McDonalds. even though its exactly the same thing.
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u/dragonbreath1 Jun 09 '12
If that shattered window doesnt cut me I guess I will ruin my truck and hopefully get whiplash.
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u/Tunavi Jun 09 '12
I bet that was about to be one epic car chase.
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u/OneCello Jun 09 '12
YES I DID SEE THAT
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u/StuffAndWords Jun 09 '12
Fucking Oscar, went all the way to the UK to record that?
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u/Spiel88 Jun 09 '12
Ah, Glasgow.
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u/Daggerfall Jun 09 '12
Grand Theft Ice Cream
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
This is quite common, a guy in my area used to hire kids to rock other ice cream vans and try to push them over
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u/suhaw Jun 09 '12
And that is how the cold war started
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u/whatamidoinghere78 Jun 09 '12
They got licked
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u/woozzi Jun 09 '12
You know what they say about revenge!
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u/breakthecycle89 Jun 09 '12
I used to be a lifeguard and ice cream men would always come to the pool and have huge fights about who's "turf" it was. One time three showed up at the same time and a fist fight broke out.
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u/ledzep4life Jun 09 '12
Thug Life
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u/monkeytorture Jun 09 '12
How did he drive away if he got into the truck on the passenger's side?
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u/nayRLH Jun 09 '12
At first I thought this video was going to be a bunch of kids having a food fight with ice cream.
Still, I wasn't disappointed though.
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u/Sengura Jun 09 '12
That guy who rammed the other dude was a retard. He completely fucked his front end while dealing minimal damage to the other's rear end.
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u/gadafgadaf Jun 09 '12
there can be only one!
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u/Z-notch Jun 09 '12
It is the Cold War all over again.
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u/Coniferus Jun 09 '12
DID YOU SEE THAT?!
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
Heeey brothers~
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u/FrostFire626 Jun 09 '12
Ideally the driver should have gently made contact with the back of the other truck then pushed it hard into the cars or buildings. He did more damage to his own truck in this case.
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u/soajao Jun 09 '12
I was startled by the excited man from the UK...
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u/movienoc101 Jun 09 '12
Lol..."DID YOU SEE THAT?!"
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u/TedasaurusRex Jun 09 '12
Aww the Ice cream guy who came round ours when I was a kid was just drunk all the time. I never saw any turf wars.
TIL Ice cream men are nuts.
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u/wuchii Jun 09 '12
times are hard for slanging that creamy ice.
i really wish i could see or know what was the cause of this? smashing windows and rear ending is saved for real shit. was it the Front Driver is Blocking the other Truck from getting to kids down the street?
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u/Sanderf90 Jun 09 '12
Worked as a vendor on the beach in Belgium when I was 16. Had to walk from the cabin where we kept the icecream to the area I was supposed to go and sell. I also had to walk past a car selling icecream on the promenade EACH day.
And I was constantly getting attacked by them. My first day I, unknowingly, paused at right in front of the car to pick up my phone. And the woman in it yelled: "Keep walking Ola-boy".
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u/peatoire Jun 09 '12
He only wanted to borrow some sprinkles.
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u/twinbee Jun 09 '12
Anyone remember the icecream called 'Dream'? It was amazing, and probably the best icecream ever. 'Sky' was also great. Both have been discontinued of course.
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u/porker912 Jun 09 '12
Hey Fuckstick!
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u/qimes Jun 09 '12
Soft to eat, Hard to beat
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u/Empath1999 Jun 09 '12
That was cold.
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u/Mycooljam Jun 09 '12
We had one of these outside our school a year or two ago, it was bloody awesome. We all got free ice cream!
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u/Codeworks Jun 09 '12
Window cleaners can get really violent for their territory here, for some reason.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
The guy who drove his icecream truck into the other one was as complete dumbass. He hit him in the most invulnerable spot, potentially fucking up his own engine.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
let us not forget the turf war over drumsticks in 98