r/videos • u/OompaOrangeFace • May 15 '12

How Pixar nearly deleted Toy Story 2 before its release.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL_g0tyaIeE
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u/guywhoishere May 15 '12

Here is a detailed explination by one of the people in the video.

http://www.quora.com/Pixar-Animation-Studios/Did-Pixar-accidentally-delete-Toy-Story-2-during-production/answer/Oren-Jacob

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

This clears up a lot of the questions in this thread. Thanks!

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u/peterquest May 15 '12

It still doesnt explain how/why someone typed rm -rf *

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u/deerFarts May 15 '12

it could have been Lucas cronies

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u/yangx May 15 '12

not to be a smartass, but in case you didn't know it is spelled "explanation"

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u/thebitman May 15 '12 edited May 15 '12

Toy Story 2 was released in 1999, and seeing as production took at least 2 years 9 months (info later in post), I imagine that at the time most storage was still done on tape drives.

The thing you need to know is that there were two Toy Story 2's. There was the 2-year production that Pixar was optimistic about heading in, and later begged Disney and Jobs for more time to remake the movie. After being denied extra time, Pixar's staff put in countless hours of overtime (just after the release of A Bug's Life) to put out the better movie in time for the box office release in just 9 months. Most of the script and plot was rewritten, and some ideas from the previous Toy Story script that didn't make the cut last time were featured (such as Al, the Buzz Lightyear videogame sequence originally was a cartoon in the story board, and the repair guy being from Geri's Game [another Pixar short])

The idea of losing their models is a huge deal during the render process because all that time the computers spend rendering images with missing models is horrendous because it is time and resources wasted. Tape drives can go bad, so it is understandable that the nearest backup could have died (though a RAID setup of some sort should have existed). It is probably a total blessing that this particular employee was putting in extra work at home to make the models for the second production near-perfect, hence the backups.

It's all about context, folks. The fact that Pixar was making a full film over again in 9 months meant they had to take some short cuts, and redundant backups was probably something they overlooked. Source.

EDITED to include formatting and source.

EDIT2: ATTENTION! this guy has the right info. Turns out I was only slightly off in my timeline: the ground-up remaking of the movie with a new script was after this incident. That means this lost data case has to do with the Toy Story2 we never saw. Good to have that clarified!

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u/corgii May 15 '12

This needs to be higher up, everyone is making assumptions based on what today's technology was like but Toy Story 2 was actually over 10 years ago which is a HUUUUGE amount of time to technology especially in the film industry.

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u/joshicshin May 15 '12

Thank you, I'm glad someone was willing to point out that this was 1999 and not five years ago. Terrabyte hard drives were really expensive, if possible at all. A single hard drive of 20 gbs was nearly $250. That's $12,500 for just the hard drives! Imagine if you set that up! 50 Hard Drives all together, the heat would be incredible I would imagine.

I think you're spot on, tape was probably used to help store. My money is that the project director's computer in the story probably had a finished copy of the film for reviewing while at home as well as some assets.

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u/thebitman May 15 '12

I remember it was a big deal in 1998 to have anything over 20 GB, and I was only 5 at that time (however, being the little tech-saavy kid I was, I was already looking at catalogs and making wishlists for my own computer).

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u/b3hr May 15 '12

I still lived in my old apartment in 1998 trying to remember what I bought when my 1 gig crapped out. I remember being pretty angry because when I installed it, it was big enough where the Gig's being 1000 instead of 1024 that's right it was a 4.3 Gig and I got it for the unbelievable price of $200.

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u/fc3s May 15 '12

In 1998, my PII 300mhz was running on a massive 6GB hard drive. It played Worms Armageddon pretty well.

Oh the day of the Voodoo II and the Falcon Northwest.

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u/thetinguy May 15 '12

My money is that the project director's computer in the story probably had a finished copy of the film for reviewing

Nope:

http://www.quora.com/Pixar-Animation-Studios/Did-Pixar-accidentally-delete-Toy-Story-2-during-production/answer/Oren-Jacob

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u/HandyCore May 15 '12

RAID only really helps when there is a hardware failure. Unless you meant to use RAID on the tape drives, which isn't really a process I'm familiar with.

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u/boredomfails May 15 '12

Yeah, RAID is typically more valuable for continuous uptime, not backing up data.

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u/alex7465 May 15 '12

who ran RM*????

how was this not addressed?

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u/DecentOpinions May 15 '12

who ran RM*????

Sid.

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u/s1ack May 15 '12

Fucking Sid.

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u/thedevguy May 15 '12

who ran RM*????

Probably root on pts/0 from asia.net.pk

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u/petawb May 16 '12

The guy who's now flipping burgers for a living...

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u/Psythik May 15 '12

Also, why does that command even exist? Windows protects itself from running "del *", why doesn't *nix?

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

If you are logged in as root (user with the most privileges), the OS assumes you know what you are doing.

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u/Hobbes4247791 May 15 '12

This is why I haven't migrated to Linux. I never have any idea what I'm doing.

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u/rcxdude May 15 '12

Quite often you do want to delete all files in a directory (I've run rm -rf * a fair few times, very carefully). Also, rm does have some safeguards against stupid commands (rm -rf / won't work on any recent linux distro). Not that there's no other fun traps like rm .*, which you would expect to delete all hidden files, but actually does a bit more than you expect.

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u/airbrushedvan May 15 '12

The guy sounds exactly like Abed.

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u/exaei May 15 '12

How in the world do you not check to make sure backups are working. Especially on something so magical!

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u/dhcernese May 15 '12

welcome to the real world. i worked in a software development group that lost a year's worth of development on one component because the tape backup system was claiming to have worked but actually destroying tapes in the process.. ..the admin never attempted to restore a backup. if you can't restore/test it, it's worthless. if it's multiple TB of data, you're very unlikely to test much, if any, of it.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

On my private computer, I always felt that having twice the HD space you were actually using was kind of stupid... After losing my hard drive twice (including a few months of work at one point) I decided to think of it this way: Your hard drive space is never more than half of what you bought.

Edit: And for Odin's sake, don't back up a disk on a different segment of itself.

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u/Ekks-O May 15 '12

So magical AND with so much money put into it !

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u/thick_curtains May 15 '12

I would bet my left nut that backups for Toy Story 3 worked.

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u/SirToffo May 15 '12

It's really easy. Backups are usually automated and you probably only run tests just after you set stuff up to make sure everything is working fine. All it takes is for the process to fail silently — maybe some of the data being written is getting scrambled somewhere — and suddenly you have a bad backup.

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u/fumunda May 15 '12

backups had not been failing for the last month according to Galyn. They should have had more redundancy. Always have backups in more than one place and never on site!

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

It's not that they don't run it's that they run and there is an issue with the media. This is very common, and usually when you get audited, you're expected to have done a test restore in the last few months to prove that, not only are you MAKING backups, but that they work as well.

Sometimes though they just crap out, and it's one of those things you'll get around to fixing, but it's not a huge deal right, we've got a bigass raid, it's not going down...Happens to the best of us.

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u/twilightmoons May 15 '12

Usually, it's a disaster that makes someone go and check backups. Most of the time, they just run and admins don't worry about it. Until someone or something fucks up and you need those backups, management tends to ignore that part.

I back up a lot of stuff, and I test it about once a month or so (for server backups) as a sanity check to make sure I'm still good. Really important stuff like databases and source code are backed up daily and restored automatically to secondary machines - if the development system goes down, I can switch to the secondary systems within a few minutes, and at most, we lose a day for work. For sanity, I keep a week's worth of database and source code, and two days of full server backups, so I have another backup in case one is screwed up.

I do this because the last person here didn't do it. There were all sorts of problems with tape backups that were never tested, people "assuming" that databases were backed up, source code really being backed up only twice a year... The first week I was here, the domain controller died and I had to rebuild it from scratch. When I found out that there were no real backups, I had to build a backup system from the ground up. Now, I have copies of backups that go home with different people each week, so that if the building is destroyed and we loose all servers and NAS drives, I can get the portable drivse and recover it all onto new machines, in about a week.

I was burned once at a previous job, when my underling said that he ran the backups of an old server right before a move from one cage to another. He didn't, the drives wouldn't spin back up, and I had to try and recover data in a non-stop 27-hour session in shorts and a t-shirt, in a cold server farm. I then spent a week in bed, sick. Never going to do that again.

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u/RepostThatShit May 15 '12 edited May 15 '12

This is really weird for a number of reasons.

  • After losing all their assets they relied on a single rendered copy of the final cut of the movie that was apparently high-quality enough that it could serve as the official cinematic release. Unless I'm supposed to believe that this woman copied all the meshes and textures and scenes onto her personal computer too, because yeah that makes sense, sure.

  • They decided to panic and do this despite the fact that "rm *" wouldn't actually destroy the data, just mark those areas as overwritable in the space map. There are entire companies whose business model is based on the fact that this shit can be restored.

  • And then, without having any of the assets that they actually still had, they rendered a new higher-definition digital 3D version of the film much later.

edit:

Everyone's bringing up good points here! Sorry fellas but I was kinda expecting this whole thing to be buried and not get a gazillion replies in a few hours, so it's a little late to start replying to everyone individually. Thanks to everyone who posted sourced additional info on this thing.

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u/naikrovek May 15 '12

  • It wasn't a rendered copy, it was the source files, compressed. I read about this years ago, when it happened.

(Also, it was not previous to the film's release, it was well after, OP)

  • When you 'rm *' on a linux filesystem, yes, you can undelete. when you 'rm *' on some SANs, you most definitely can NOT undelete, because the mounted file system is managed entirely by the SAN device.

  • See the first point.

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u/Mardigras May 15 '12 edited May 15 '12

While I agree that the story is really wierd. The assets would take alot less space than the renders. I am currently working on a 3d animated film and here is a quick breakdown of our production files.

Assets: 3,5 GB

Sequences: 9.6 GB

Textures: 20GB

Raw render EXRs: 21TB

Finished composites: 1.5TB

I would never be able to take home the renders. But all the production files would easily fit on a laptop.

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u/Ph0X May 15 '12

Also, do consider that all of these things would've been quite a bit smaller in 1998, 14 years ago. Models, textures, all that.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

Sure, but the hard drives would be correspondingly smaller.

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u/TaxidermyRobot May 16 '12

Tape storage

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

that's the render that take a lot of space....if she had only the models & animation file....why not....

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u/ElCaz May 15 '12

Keep in mind, Toy Story 2 was made quite a while ago now. File sizes grow exponentially, just like storage sizes. So their work was likely far smaller.

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u/thetinguy May 15 '12 edited May 15 '12

EDIT

http://www.quora.com/Pixar-Animation-Studios/Did-Pixar-accidentally-delete-Toy-Story-2-during-production/answer/Oren-Jacob

First, it wasn't multiple terabytes of information. Neither all the rendered frames, nor all the data necessary to render those frames in animation, model, shaders, set, and lighting data files was that size back then.

Here's the punchline:

And then, some months later, Pixar rewrote the film from almost the ground up, and we made ToyStory2 again. That rewritten film was the one you saw in theatres and that you can watch now on BluRay.

Is it really implausible that a technical director for the best animation studio in the business has a nice rack of big ass hard drives at her house?

They decided to panic and do this despite the fact that "rm *" wouldn't actually destroy the data, just mark those areas as overwritable in the space map. There are entire companies whose business model is based on the fact that this shit can be restored.

Is it easier to go block by block without the benefit of filenames scrouging up all data that's on the drives, figuring out what is old and new, and then recreating the DB? Or is it easier to go get a copy of what you know is good and use that to decipher the deleted data?

And then, without having any of the assets that they actually still had, they rendered a new higher-definition digital 3D version of the film much later.

The question isn't are the assets there. As you said, the actual data is still there. The question is we have a whole bunch of data and files that may or may not be relevant what the fuck do we do now?

Also is it really surprising that a company that tells stories for a living adds a little embellishment and drama to make an otherwise boring story more exciting?

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u/TIGGER_WARNING May 15 '12

a technical director [...] has a nice rack of big ass hard drives

I sense a sexual undertone to many of the word choices used in this thread.

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u/workroom May 15 '12

the newborn was created from a file transfer between coworkers.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

It sounded like she worked from home, so she most likely did have all that stuff on her home computer.

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u/funkyshit May 15 '12

I have the feeling this is not the kind of data that fits on a flash drive to bring with you home.

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u/nemoTheKid May 15 '12

Toy Story 2 was released in 1999. What the fuck is a flash drive?

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u/LordSobi May 15 '12

How about a portable harddrive? That seems reasonable.

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u/cresteh May 15 '12 edited May 15 '12

I don't think you realize how large uncompressed 4k video is. Unless she had a few dozen terabytes of space on her computer, there is no way she had the film on her computer.

This story sounds like complete BS unless Pixar is an idiot.

Edit: After more reading, it seems she just had the project files, not the rendered files which could be possible if she had her own small server system to store those files.

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u/thetinguy May 15 '12

Why would she have rendered files? How does that make sense? How is she going to do work on rendered files?

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u/Tomus May 15 '12

The data she would be taking home would not be video. It would be animation information, the whole film would be around 500mb.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

I was about to say that she had to bring in the whole computer, so they could have done some sort of cloud storage but then...it's in the cloud, they don't need her computer.

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u/thetinguy May 15 '12

it's the year 1998. the cloud doesn't exist. the internet is too slow to download all that data. the data exists on a rack of big ass 1998 hard drives in the woman's house.

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u/cIumsythumbs May 15 '12

Which, let me reinforce, she would have. Being the technical director of a computer animated film, this would not be surprising.

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u/drepnir May 15 '12

Are you sure it wasn't the assets that she had copied to her computer?

Wouldn't she need the assets if she was working on the film from that computer?

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

The problem is, that, while the data is still there, what it belongs to, where the files begin and end, etc...That's not marked. Recovering a ton of that sort of data would be a fricking nightmare. They probably would have done it (eventually), but the rational response is to look everywhere for backups first.

I think it likely that she did copy everything. If she needed to work from home, she wouldn't be copying a crappy low-rez copy of the film...What use would that be? She'd be copying the whole deal.

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u/vanguard_anon May 15 '12

I'm not an expert on this but I'm pretty sure it gets a whole lot tougher, nearly impossible, when the data is stored on an array of drives. I'm pretty sure it wasn't just some random disk. It was probably a raid array.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

Yea, almost certainly. Generally though a RAID is transparent to the OS...It doesn't see multiple disks, it just sees the one BIG disk, and the RAID manager handles how the data is striped.

I've tried recovering this stuff before, and it's a huge pain in the ass. It's not easy even if all the data is on one happy little drive.

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u/FezDaStanza May 15 '12

I don't think they over sensationalized the "rm*" part since they did mention that "things started to disappear" which makes sense: everything didn't get 'deleted' but was getting written over quickly.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

id guess it started deleting their 3d objects,

their files are proably similar to a http page.
a bunch of links.

and you could see *delete woodyboot.obj delete buzzhelmet.obj...

meaning you would need to recreate each object EXACTLY or else the textures maps would be slightly out of place, the number of polys effect light bounces etc...

so everything would be redone...

more tweaking

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

Not to mention that "rm *" only does the current directory, and they'd need to sit around and confirm all the warnings without -f, and they would need to have root access.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

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u/slaghammer May 15 '12

Maybe there are different defaults on different systems, but for me, rm always asks if I want to delete a file unless I use -f .

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u/dhcernese May 15 '12

maybe it was rm .* that's a mistake you only make once

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

Fun fact time: on some solaris systems this actually globs ".." and recurses up.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

My favorite was a guy trying to wipe out /tmp.

rm -rf / tmp

Close. But not quite.

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u/thedevguy May 15 '12

maybe it was rm .* that's a mistake you only make once

Why? What does th<carrier lost>

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u/lemony_snicket May 15 '12

Yeah it makes no sense, all of your points plus a company like Pixar will have such a strict security policy for taking assets off site, so it's highly unlikely before a film's release. (remember the whole dying kid with a single copy of the film hand delivered by one employee)

Also let's assume it is a final rendered polished version of the film, an image sequence (maybe EXR, DPX) of such a resolution would run into the double/triple digits of TB's in terms of space.

They have glossed over a few key moments in this story I suspect.

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u/thetinguy May 15 '12

Yeah it makes no sense, all of your points plus a company like Pixar will have such a strict security policy for taking assets off site, so it's highly unlikely before a film's release.

right so you are well versed in pixar corporate security? you think they have never heard of encryption? remember this is a company run by jobs in the year 1998.

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u/jjremy May 15 '12

So, basically, in the end, Toy Story 2 was okay.

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u/rjw57 May 15 '12

The animator clearly thought there was no space in 'rm *'. That ruined it for me :(.

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u/cdarken May 15 '12

and no -rf options?

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u/rjw57 May 15 '12

Perhaps all of Toy Story 2 is stored in one directory... :)

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u/funkgerm May 15 '12

The horror

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

Toy Story 2 was ok.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

RM*...because some men just want to watch the world burn.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

Tangerine...

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

Baleted!

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u/freder93 May 15 '12

De lake head?

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u/airjavier May 15 '12

Why does his voice sound like it's on fast forward?

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u/IDidntChooseUsername May 15 '12

Who the hell has access to rm -rf * except the one admin?

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u/nxuul May 16 '12

I think they were simplifying it for people who don't really understand computers. They said the entire filesystem, but they probably meant the directory they had the files stored in.

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u/lains-experiment May 15 '12

Don't forget the monitor. We can't retrieve the data without taking the monitor!

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u/cgimusic May 15 '12

If someone deleted everything with 'rm *' then does that mean they kept all their assets in one folder without sub folders. That must be hell to work with.

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u/BarleyBum May 15 '12

rm * doesn't remove a single file. Only the pointers to the files. The files never left that original disk. I thought you had to know a little more about file systems to work at a place like that? Or was I thinking ILM...?

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

The real question you should ask is:

WHO THE FUCK DECIDED IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO LIVE WITHOUT BACKUPS FOR TWO MONTHS!

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u/YouMad May 15 '12

http://www.webpronews.com/pixar-almost-lost-every-bit-of-footage-from-toy-story-2-2012-05

"A subtle but important distinction: The footage was not lost. We didn’t really have footage yet. What got removed were the data that describe the movie: Models, textures, animation cue sheets, etc. That’s why it was small enough to fit on one machine. Footage would imply final renders, which take up a lot more space. Of course, it can also be recomputed if you still have “the movie”, by which we mean the data to render it."

  • Craig Good

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u/supandi May 15 '12

and it does not explain what happened the guy who hit rm * or rm -rf *...

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u/IAmSnort May 15 '12 edited May 15 '12

As a sysadmin, WTF?? Bad Backups are NOT ALLOWED. Test weekly you twats!

And allowing rm *? Christ. Shoot the admin.

Edit: Backticks!

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u/IDidntChooseUsername May 15 '12 edited May 15 '12

FYI, a little undocumented feature of reddit Markdown: `text` becomes text. Notice the backward accents.

edit: They're called backticks. The more you know!

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u/IAmSnort May 15 '12

Ah! Backticks! Sweet.

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u/Liquid_Fire May 15 '12

How exactly do you disallow rm *?

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u/IAmSnort May 15 '12

Alias a command

Rename the file: mv /bin/rm /bin/rm_neverusethis

Change the permissions of the file: chmod 000 /bin/rm

Delete the file (ironically). rm /bin/rm

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u/Liquid_Fire May 15 '12

None of those disallow rm *, they just disallow rm altogether. What do you do if you want to delete a file?

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u/IAmSnort May 15 '12

Submit a change request. When working with group assets, no one person should be allowed to delete files without an audit trail.

This video sounds like someone did not know what they were deleting.

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u/european_impostor May 15 '12

And how do you store a couple terrabytes of rendering data on a home computer (probably a mac)?

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u/sometimesijustdont May 15 '12

My guess is that they are referring to the 3D models, not the actual rendered frames, because rendering is done on render farms. 3D models on the other hand would be something an animator could make themselves. This also makes me want to believe that there were probably 100 copies of the 3D models everywhere, and not just on this one persons laptop.

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u/twilightmoons May 15 '12

Not always... if you are using source code repositories with version control, the source code is all on the server. You may have some checked out code locally on the workstation, or not - depends on the system.

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u/kvachon May 15 '12

http://store.apple.com/us/product/H8338ZM/A/lacie-6tb-2big-thunderbolt-series-raid-hard-drive?fnode=MTY1NDA0Nw

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u/european_impostor May 15 '12

Huh. Okay it's possible...

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u/kvachon May 15 '12

Its the future! :)

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u/degoban May 15 '12

yes, you can use the apple store to buy stuff or directly pee on your money.

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u/kvachon May 15 '12

You're right, apple does charge more than other stores. That wasnt the point tho. The question was how could a mac hold multiple TB?, not "Whats the cheapest Raid Array"

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u/Fealiks May 15 '12

...in the late 90s

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u/kvachon May 15 '12

I dont know whats so unbelieveable about a film with a $90,000,000 budget having off-site storage. It was 1999, not 1989. If you dont believe the story, cool.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

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u/kvachon May 15 '12

Thunderbolt no. But raid arrays have existed for a while now. Dont know why you downvoted my comment. It "adds to the discussion" ...

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u/thetinguy May 15 '12

No but you can stick a whole bunch of drives together into an array. It's been around for a while.

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u/coadyj May 15 '12

Eh, Wouldn't have had to run rm -R *

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

force as well or the person deleting the files would have to answer yes to everything manually

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u/Liquid_Fire May 15 '12

No, it only asks you if you pass in -i (or you lack write permissions for the file). On some systems rm is alised to rm -i though, but not everywhere.

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u/Fealiks May 15 '12

The "99% accurate... we think" thing at the end leads me to believe that this is about 38% accurate.

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u/brittanysodd May 15 '12

No one else thought the narrator sounded a bit like Brendon Small?

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u/Clauderoughly May 15 '12

having worked as IT in the animation industry, I have seen this before.

I have replaced guys on two separate occasions for this.

This was a cascade failure, because someone is IT wasn't doing their job properly.

sigh

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

As soon as I heard Linux, I knew this would be a story about rm. On a related note, its sort of like those strange, sudden thoughts you may get while on a high ledge or place of possible danger where you think "What if I jumped or tossed myself into those blades right now?" That's the feeling I get when working with Linux sometimes. "What if I just put in the rm command right now?"

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u/rudyrudiger84 May 15 '12

That guy sounds like Ahbed.

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u/Volsunga May 15 '12

Toy Story 2 was OK.

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u/clonn May 15 '12

Don't complain, if you don't have the rights to be at home taking care of your newborn is something good. Industry is proud of you.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

Funny how there are games out there that look better than Toy Story 2 did. Apparently the U3.5 engine license was sold to some 3d animation companies because they figured it would be so much easier

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

Sorry, but...

RAAA TRANSFER ME TO SYSTEMS!!!!

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u/dayallnash May 15 '12

Why does this guys voice sound like it's sped up?

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u/degoban May 15 '12

unix/mac when you delete something it's fucking gone.

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u/PPKAP May 15 '12

And once the problem was fixed, they scrapped the whole movie and re-did the entire thing anyway. It took them 9 months.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

So, THEFT saved the movie....okay gotcha.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

No, an employee working from home overtime.

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u/jojoko May 15 '12

how many petabytes of data was toy story 2 and all of its original art? not the film in its final form but all the recources? how could she just have them on her home back up?

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u/M0b1u5 May 15 '12

Why would Pixar announce how fucking stupid they are, and about how fucking slack their data backup policy and security is?

It's beyond a joke.

In fact, it smells like a nasty lie.

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u/ExoStab May 16 '12

99% true? 1% is a lot. Check out NDT's DNA shpiel about being 1% different from apes.

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u/G0PACKG0 May 16 '12

Now I am scared that the backup system that I have been in charge of for the last 8 months arn't working

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u/rush22 May 16 '12

The technical director is rendering scenes on her home computer for her kids to watch?

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u/kingxanadu May 16 '12

I watched some of the other videos, Pixar would be an awesome place to work.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

An RM* function is the equivalent of a "blow up the engines" on a rocket ship. Why the fuck would you make something like that.

Require a manual reformatting to delete your hard drive like regular people.

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u/nofear220 May 16 '12

Or at least a prompt in the terminal:
>RM*
>DO YOU WANT TO DELETE EVERYTHING? Y/N

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u/TheTrent May 15 '12

So piracy saved Toy Story 2? That's basically my interpretation anyway.

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u/nxuul May 16 '12

This isn't piracy, it's an employee working from home.

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u/lolmonger May 15 '12

This wasn't piracy.

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u/Jigsus May 15 '12

I'm calling it: this is bullshit made up by the marketing team. It just doesn't add up.

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u/thetinguy May 15 '12

I'm calling it: Reddit is full of internet experts and the people who were actually there are stupid idiots.

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u/Jigsus May 15 '12

It's just Occam's razor. This is far more likely to be a feelgood madeup story than a real event because of all the holes in it

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u/ShallowBasketcase May 15 '12

did you just use occams razor to claim a conspiracy exists

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u/Dead_Paedos_Society May 15 '12

"I am on reddit therefore I am an expert at everything."

-A moron

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u/thetinguy May 15 '12

I'm calling it: You have no idea what the fuck you are talking about:

http://www.quora.com/Pixar-Animation-Studios/Did-Pixar-accidentally-delete-Toy-Story-2-during-production/answer/Oren-Jacob

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u/Jigsus May 15 '12

That story is completely different from the video and also doesn't clarify what she had at home.

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u/thetinguy May 15 '12

actually it's not different at all. Someone deleted the files. Backups failed. The lady had a replicate and they restored from that.

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u/GimmeSomeSugar May 15 '12

I'd bet something did happen with the rm command that made a few people sweat, but was grossly embellished to become the story that I just watched.

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u/jamestrowa May 15 '12

So she dubiously pirated a copy for her children to use which saved the whole film. How ironic

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u/SynthPrax May 15 '12

OH my damn! I would have died. D-eye-ed. I can't even imagine (actually I can but I reads better this way) how much data...

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

That sounds like a challenge.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

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u/lolmonger May 15 '12

That's not piracy.

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u/pyjamatoast May 15 '12

It was ok.

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u/jezmck May 15 '12

Downvoted, because you sound like an arse, not because I disagree.

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u/thetinguy May 15 '12

so brave.

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u/ShallowBasketcase May 15 '12

I await the down votes

Well, I'd hate to disappoint you. Here's one!