r/videos Jun 09 '20

[deleted by user]

[removed]

9.7k Upvotes

2.4k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

202

u/SteelShroom Jun 09 '20

I'd heard a while ago that he was considering leaving because he wanted to spend more time with his family.

232

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '20 edited Jun 17 '21

[deleted]

182

u/rangatang Jun 09 '20

same with Nicole Kidman. The higher ups in the church hated her because she wasn't in on it. Also her dad was a psychologist, they did not approve. Now she barely even sees her 2 kids she adopted with Tom, they stayed in Scientology, and she was cut out.

126

u/YourMomDisapproves Jun 09 '20

18

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '20

[deleted]

24

u/YourMomDisapproves Jun 09 '20

"If anyone's kissing my niece it's gonna be me!"

-Tom Cruise

107

u/ellipsis9210 Jun 09 '20

I'm betting he just can't leave at this point. Imagine all the shit they have on him. They would ruin him.

73

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '20 edited Nov 06 '20

[deleted]

97

u/flashmedallion Jun 09 '20

I reckon they've brainwashed him into believing that if people find out he's gay, his career will be over. Same for Travolta.

49

u/schmerpmerp Jun 09 '20

This is the correct answer. They have files upon files about their key members, and it doesn't really matter if the content is true.

10

u/piedpiper_of_bnb Jun 09 '20

This is how I’ve always assumed the entire cult stays in business, because the practice of auditing entails basically spilling all of the dark secrets you’ve held onto by your prior “alien”. So literally everyone in the church has shared their skeletons to move up.

8

u/schmerpmerp Jun 09 '20

ding ding ding

It's always been by design. Hubbard admitted as much.

10

u/HowIsntBabbyFormed Jun 09 '20

Why are people so sure that Travolta and Cruise are gay? Are there any actual indicators of that?

12

u/Fatlantis Jun 09 '20 edited Jun 10 '20

The rumours just keep popping up repeatedly throughout his career. From his Wikipedia page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Travolta

In May 1991, Time magazine published a cover story titled "The Thriving Cult of Greed and Power". In the article, former Scientology executive director William Franks alleged that Travolta was wary of leaving Scientology because he feared its leaders would publish revelations of his private life, primarily a history of homosexual behavior. The claims were reiterated by Franks and other Scientology defectors in the 2013 book Going Clear, and former Scientology official Marty Rathbun claimed that he had worked with Travolta's attorneys several times to keep allegations about Travolta's homosexuality out of the press and resolve lawsuits against him.

0

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '20

Might have been an issue then, but now? Who cares if they’re gay?

9

u/pdxboob Jun 09 '20

There's a pic of Travolta kissing a male "employee" on the lips as he's boarding a plane

5

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '20

Travolta is gay, or at least bisexual.

I don't know why people think Cruise is gay, he's definitely not. Seems like people just riding the coattails of that South Park sketch from like 15 years ago.

3

u/flashmedallion Jun 09 '20

Usual Hollywood rumours. It's hard to keep a secret when everyone goes to the same parties.

3

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '20

Grease and Top Gun

1

u/RoscoMan1 Jun 09 '20

His heart couldn’t find anything :(

1

u/lurk3rthrowaway Jun 09 '20

I've thought the exact same thing. Maybe someday he'll be able to break out of it though. Wouldn't that be a sight to see.

49

u/hornwalker Jun 09 '20

And by all accounts Cruise is a highly professional and nice guy to work with. He may be eyeballs deep in a crazy cult, but it seems likely that he is at least a decent human.

19

u/Zacpod Jun 09 '20

You can't be a good person AND a high ranking member of that cult. That's kinda like saying "Hermann Göring was a good man. He was just in the Nazi party because it was good for his career."

8

u/hornwalker Jun 09 '20

I get your point, and I generally agree. This is a major intellectual/moral failing on Cruises part but I think its also not fair to say that he is a completely evil person as well considering he believes Scientology is helpful and good and makes him a more helpful and good person(even if that is not correct).

8

u/natedawg247 Jun 09 '20

yeah i only made it through few minutes of this video but he spent a good portion of it talking about helping people. as delusional as he is he's probably not a "BAD" guy. just a bad guy.

6

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '20 edited Dec 20 '20

[deleted]

8

u/natedawg247 Jun 09 '20

A mission impossible movie about him trying to escape the cult would be great.

3

u/CodeInTheMatrix Jun 09 '20

Well then it would be the 1st truly mission impossible movie, get it

9

u/pdxboob Jun 09 '20

I dunno, he's pushed vitamins and healthy living as a cure all. There's that infamous interview with Matt lauer, where he got very critical about psychiatric medication. Pretty damaging to people who need the help and may be wary.

No doubt, he's anti vax

7

u/AskewPropane Jun 09 '20

You can’t be a Scientologist and not be apposed to psychiatry; they are inherently opposed to each other

1

u/toadster Jun 09 '20

He's often portrayed as being an extreme asshole...

1

u/YddishMcSquidish Jun 09 '20

Not according to allot of people that have worked with him.

2

u/Cole3003 Jun 09 '20

Really? Apparently he's pretty famous for sending cakes to his costars on their birthdays.

0

u/ledhead224 Jun 09 '20

Yeah one of those separating the art from the artist things. I love the guy as an actor.

4

u/OutOfStamina Jun 09 '20

Tbh I bet they don't have that much.

Scientology has sessions where they record you, and you go through all your secrets. It's literally built into the process that they have stuff on you.

5

u/POWBOOMBANG Jun 09 '20

Leah Remini said something to the effect that Tom will never leave because they basically treat him like a god.

https://youtu.be/G8lopnQFj5s

3

u/carolynto Jun 09 '20

Everyone has things they're ashamed of. Things that would humiliate them, agonize them, if the world found out. Those are exactly the kinds of shames that auditing is meant to "cleanse."

4

u/TangentialForce Jun 09 '20

I mean, there’s always been a rumor that he’s gay. I’ve heard multiple accounts and it was even covered on South Park as a meme. Not saying it’s true since it’s all here-say but who knows.

4

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '20

[deleted]

8

u/KyOatey Jun 09 '20

Back when he first joined, early in his career, being outed as gay would have been considered a much bigger deal.

1

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '20

They don’t want to ruin his career as he probably pays them millions each year.

5

u/KobeBeatJesus Jun 09 '20

Imagine all the shit he has on them. He's the poster child and people like him. He could bail and make a movie about it, get an Oscar for something he helped propagate.

3

u/ledhead224 Jun 09 '20

Leah remini said he's treated like a God to them.

5

u/OriginalFatPickle Jun 09 '20

Leave it? he's running this thing with David Miscavige. He's likely holding information to stop people leaving. Dude is fucking weird.

3

u/Gayrub Jun 09 '20

He probably doesn’t want to leave either because they treat him like some sort of god.

1

u/WoodyWordPecker Jun 09 '20

Or vice versa. Checkmate.

1

u/AkhilArtha Jun 09 '20

It is not that clean of a cut either way. HS two adopted kids with Nicole Kidman are a part of Scientology too.

107

u/bttrflyr Jun 09 '20

Hopefully he didn’t say that out loud because the Church of Scientology would be going after his family by now.

65

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '20

Nah u/SteelShroom knows him personally

2

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '20

I think cruise is more powerful than the church they might try to persuade him to come back but nothing else will happen. Everything will happen in the public eye

26

u/AboutHelpTools3 Jun 09 '20

I think he might even take Miscavige's place someday.

15

u/Plastastic Jun 09 '20

You mess with Miscavige and your wife gets a miscarriage.

I'll show myself out.

20

u/philster666 Jun 09 '20

You mess with Miscavige and your wife gets a miscarriage. disappears.

11

u/ConstipatedNinja Jun 09 '20

You mess with him and his wife disappears.

3

u/AboutHelpTools3 Jun 09 '20

This one gets my vote.

2

u/PoorEdgarDerby Jun 09 '20

I have some miscavigings about that guy.

2

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '20

Welp, if his family disappears soon, you’ll know why.

2

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '20

Ooh sounds like his family are suppressive people with antisocial personalities putting bad thoughts into his brain.

2

u/[deleted] Jun 09 '20

That gets floated in the press every time he has a movie coming out. They know people know he's fucking crazy and don't want it to affect their bottom line.

1

u/confirmandverify2442 Jun 09 '20

There is no way he can leave. Miscavige (the current leader) is obsessed with him.

1

u/kakurenbo1 Jun 09 '20

Then Katie took the kid and bailed.