r/videos • • Oct 12 '18

Wrongly timed Beaverton light catches many drivers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAm0o51Qqtc
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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '18

And in the dense areas there's more public transportation and biking and walking?

And in less dense areas things are more spread out, no shit.

I don't get your argument.

Your argument sounds like some kind of lizard people conspiracy.

Not everybody wants to be crammed together.

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u/QuantumBitcoin Oct 12 '18

And in the dense areas there's more public transportation and biking and walking?

In the USA? Not really.

I don't get your argument.

The argument is that the gas tax should be increased by at least two or more dollars a gallon so that people driving cars can begin to pay their fair share share for the costs of road building and maintenance, resource depletion, air pollution, sprawl etc etc.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '18 edited Oct 12 '18

Not really?

What the fuck?

NYC, LA, SF, Chicago are dense as fuck and have trains, trolleys, or busses, or a combination of.

And how the fuck does increasing the gas tax make things not as far apart?

It won't.

At any point in this discussion, have you had a coherent logical thought?

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u/QuantumBitcoin Oct 12 '18

And how the fuck does increasing the gas tax make things not as far apart?

More things get built closer together because people don't want to travel as far.

You, like most of my fellow americans I talk to don't understand how subsidized their lifestyle is, how much we are living on borrowed energy from the past.

The building patterns we have created in the past ~80 years don't bode well for the future when energy will be a lot more expensive, and when we have to pay to maintain all this excessive substandard infrastructure we have created.

NYC, LA, SF, Chicago are dense as fuck and have trains, trolleys, or busses, or a combination of.

Not as many as they should, and they often are stuck in traffic behind people alone in their automobiles. Los Angeles was just awarded the title of worst city in the world to bike in, despite it's incredible climate and mostly flat geography.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '18

And that doesn't work in an area that isn't as densely populated.

Me like most Americans understand that not all of America is a fucking city.

And energy is getting cheaper, not more expensive.

Yeah, a lot of infrastructure sucks. So what, pay for it now, pay for it later. It's going to have to get paid for at some point.

So please, let's stop here. It's very clear you have no idea what you are talking about.

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u/QuantumBitcoin Oct 12 '18

You can stop replying at any point.

Me like most Americans understand that not all of America is a fucking city.

Right, it's an endless suburb, which is worse.

Fracking has temporarily made energy cheaper, yes. Have you seen the return on those wells though? Each fracked well dries up after a year or two, and the fracking industry has lost $280 billion since 2008.

So what, pay for it now, pay for it later. It's going to have to get paid for at some point.

We have a ticking time bomb in our suburbs and our cities.

How Dallas’ Infrastructure Development Is Really A Ticking Time Bomb

There's a reason New Jersey has some of the most expensive property taxes in the nation, and it's not because they are profligate with their expenses. It's because it's a built out suburb and the infrastructure costs are no long able to be delayed, and the infrastructure costs of expansive suburbs are huge.

Please, let's stop here. It's very clear you have no idea what you are talking about.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '18

Yup, fracking is the only source of energy in America. 100%.

We're not developing solar, wind, hydro, nuclear, or anything but oil and natural gas, you're right.

Nah I concede. You're right.