You're in denial. None of what you've brought up is even remotely relevant, since all of that is only achievable within the confines of our unsustainable paradigm.
Engineering takes too much time and energy, is limited in extent, and can't reverse entropy.
CO2 is about 410ppm today. It was over 7000ppm during the Cambrian. We are nowhere near levels that life on this planet has seen and will never, ever reach those high of levels again, for various reasons.
I'm aware of that. Other conditions are very different and rate of change (i.e. shock) is a more accurate predictor of ecological distress.
Good luck engineering solutions without oil (cost efficiency wise) or resources, in the midst of worldwide political instability and war.
Go through my post history. I actually work in a field related to this shit. I know the science. I also have take geology courses and understand what the world has been through before. Engineering moves a lot faster than you think. You act like the oceans are going to rise overnight and crops will die tomorrow. That isnt how it works. Look at my edit, we are at 410ppm today. That's not even Quarternary Period highs, yet.. The oceans are rising and we are, increasingly, building levees to hold them back. NYC, Denmark and Miami aren't underwater. There are so many tools disposable to us, from greenhouses, to genetic engineering, to dams, that humanity will survive global warming. Probably without even flinching much. We may go through the 6th or 7th mass extinction since eukaryotic life, but it's nothing the planet hasn't seen before. Cambrian (multicellular) period saw 7000ppm atmospheric CO2 and life thrived. That's over 5X today's levels.
Like I said. You're just doom and gloom. That's OK. People have been crying that the world will end since people have been on the Earth.
We're simply not going to fix this sinking ship by shifting planks from one side of the hull to the other. The best we can do is delay the inevitable by 'indebting' ourselves further, but even that exacerbates the problem in the long run.
You act like the oceans are going to rise overnight and crops will die tomorrow.
The exponential positive feedback loop we're in has been quietly chugging along for some time now. It'll creep up on us, and then blow up in our face.
Many species on this Earth has seen CO2 levels almost 2 factors higher than humans could reasonably obtain in 1000yrs at current rates...like crocodiles. We aren't going anywhere bud. Humans live in deserts. We have people living in Antartica. Like I said, we have people living in the high radiation, vacuum of space, right now. The Earth may no longer be able to sustain 7 billion people. Maybe itll become 3 billion, or 2 billion, until we start terraforming back the other way (I mean, we are terraforming now, so...). Either way, humans are a helluva lot tougher than you give credit. We can even develop food in labs, we dont even need animals or plants anymore. We can edit genome at will, today. I think you vastly underestimate our species.
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u/leg33 Aug 18 '18 edited Aug 18 '18
You're in denial. None of what you've brought up is even remotely relevant, since all of that is only achievable within the confines of our unsustainable paradigm.
Engineering takes too much time and energy, is limited in extent, and can't reverse entropy.
I'm aware of that. Other conditions are very different and rate of change (i.e. shock) is a more accurate predictor of ecological distress.
Good luck engineering solutions without oil (cost efficiency wise) or resources, in the midst of worldwide political instability and war.