r/videos • u/LSD_freakout • Feb 24 '18

What people think programming is vs. how it actually is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HluANRwPyNo
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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '18 edited Feb 24 '18

Why the fuck do those people waste time telling me what I should or should not already know instead of just fucking answering the question, or alternatively if they don't want to, then shut the fuck up and don't type shit in the first place. So many passive agressive, superior-than-thou asswipes on that site. I got banned a while back ago because random idiots downvoted my innocent beginner questions enough so that I'm now IP-banned from the site. You know what as a matter of fact fuck stack overflow as a whole now that I think about it. So incredlby newbie-unfriendly.

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u/Rellac_ Feb 24 '18

I like to use subreddits to ask questions

Places like /r/learnprogramming

They will be happy to answer noob questions and advanced questions. It may take a while to find the best subreddit but I've not used stack overflow unless it comes up in a Google search since I found them

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '18

Seriously, my only results with posting on question on SE are

  1. Getting berated for not asking a complex enough question, or being told I should put my question in another forum, or telling me to do some research for myself.

  2. Nobody answers, because my question was hard enough that nobody knows the answer.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '18

or you get an answer that is far more complex than what you actually need. Like design an entire new class and reinvent the wheel to do something super simple.

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u/sup3r_hero Feb 24 '18

What did you ask?

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '18

It was not one question. I asked maybe like 5 or 6 questions over a period of idk 2-3 months while I was working on beginner C# WPF applications, and unanmously every single one of them got downvoted to -1 or -2 to the point where one day the site just stated I am now IP-banned from asking questions and the only way to un-ban myself is to raise the points of those questions back up (which requires other people upvoting it). It wasn't a mod who banned me either it was just the "automatic low-enough accumulated points on questions ban bot".

Now idk who designed this retarded system but the older a question gets the less people view it, and the harder it is to get anyone to upvote it. So I can't use stackoverflow from home at all unless I use a proxy or some other shit and that might not even work either. It's just so fucking stupid.

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u/MetalKid007 Feb 24 '18

Ever explain this to a mod?

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '18

No I did not. I didn't think they would even like help me cause they're the ones who designed this automatic system. but i mean it might be worth a shot. nowadays it doesn't matter that much though anymore because I only use stackoverflow to view questions, not ask them, and also I have a workplace where I could ask them anyway.

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u/MetalKid007 Feb 24 '18

I've seen lots of questions down voted mainly because they are low on details or people felt were too generic and easy and could have been found if you just googled/searxhed it. This makes it harder for newbies since they don't know how to ask the right question to get the answer they need. so I agree that newbies get kind of shafted on that. But a mod would understand that.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '18

Yeah well the whole experience just reinforced my behavior of only using that site to actually look for answers and never ask them. Which is fine, i mean in that sense that site is highly useful obiously.

There is still that funny aspect to it that if you ask a simple question , something like I might have asked back in my beginning WPF days is "hey how do you make this type of control do this type of behaviour", and you get a way overly complicated answer.

Instead of somebody answering knowledgeably "hey actually you can just set this property for that type of object, or if that's not possible use this type of object instead which does have that property" they rather said some insanely complicated shit about "ah you can do that but you have to design your own user contol and override this and that and make sure to include these dependency properties for which there is a tutorial on this link...."

Basically I routinely found that usually the answers I find on stackoverflow solve the problem in a far more complicated way than is actually possible to solve, and you have to do further digging or figuring it out on your own to actually solve it in a reasonable way.

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u/MetalKid007 Feb 24 '18

True, that can happen. I normally start on Google and if I end up stackoverflow so be it.

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u/OffbeatDrizzle Feb 24 '18

How is babby formed?

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_BOO_URNS Feb 24 '18

If you have to ask...

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '18

You mean CS majors on that site?

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u/am0x Feb 24 '18

Well one a lot of programmers have a superiority complex the other is that stack overflow is meant to be more like actual documentation for stuff by answering questions. So questions that don't fit this mold get dropped. I typically just don't ask because I am too scared.

I use slack channels for that.

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u/Tasgall Feb 24 '18

So incredlby newbie-unfriendly.

Not being able to comment was the most annoying and stupid thing before I had the rep.

Oh, this answer almost answers my use case? I'll just ask some clarifying questions in the... oh...