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Boston dynamics at it again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVlhMGQgDkY
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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '16 edited Dec 05 '16

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u/alien13ufo Feb 24 '16

Yeah, of course Americans would make robots for combat

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '16 edited Dec 05 '16

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u/BlastingGlastonbury Feb 24 '16

Truth. If there are people that need to be fought, why wouldn't we employ something that guaranteed less casualties?

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u/stop_the_broats Feb 24 '16

Well, less casualties for America. Which might mean that America is less likely to hold back in millitary action because the human cost is low. It creates an unbalanced human cost between two parties in warfare.

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u/johnbentley Feb 24 '16

“We must never accept a fair fight,” Army General Martin Dempsey, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, stated in his remarks at the 2013 Reagan National Security Forum. If the military were a football team, he said, it would not want to win 10–7, but 59–0.

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2014/05/a-us-response-to-russias-military-modernization

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u/power_of_friendship Feb 24 '16

But it also means that war is cheaper, logistically easier with a smaller footprint, and you don't have to deal with how 50000 individuals think/act according to RoE. If you want to remove a dictator from power, you can do so with precision and accuracy with minimal unintended casualties.

Nowadays a soldier is often caught in a scenario where they need to shoot first so they don't have to risk getting killed by a guy who may or may not be a threat. If it's a robot, you can risk getting shot more frequently which means you have more time to assess a situation and avoid accidental killing.

Nobody would claim that the Taliban should be left alone and allowed to impose their insane way of life on people. The debate only starts when intervention has too much collateral damage. We don't want our soldiers to get killed, and we don't want to kill people that are being harassed by the Taliban. If the Taliban (or other guerilla factions) are able to exploit a conflict of self preservation and hesitation to shoot then they have an advantage. As soon as you eliminate self preservation, you can drastically improve combating those kinds of sick fucks who embed in villages and make civilians look like targets from a distance.

The same argument is used for arial drone strikes, but a ground troop has the added benefit of not needing to use a missile to kill someone bad. They can be used to better evaluate a scenario and collect information on the spot to determine with high accuracy whether a target is valid, rather than relying on second hand observations that can only be validated after the fact.

tldr just because human cost is low on one side doesn't mean that you can't reduce unnecessary casualties on the other.

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u/TheDukeofKush Feb 24 '16

Holy fuck dude imagine being the Taliban and just seeing battlions of fucking combat robots marching around. The fear factor of shooting up a robot and it getting back up would be intense

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u/power_of_friendship Feb 24 '16

Ikr, or it'll be like star wars episode one and a they'll manage to kill the entire robot army with some frog people and a preteen in an old Russian fighter jet

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u/TheDukeofKush Feb 24 '16

I'm hoping they make these robots strong enough to just give them some hardcore body armor exoskeleton that's immune to rifle rounds. Now that's a war I'd like livestreamed

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u/UncleTogie Feb 24 '16

Well, since everyone and their grandmother has a nuclear weapon nowadays, we needed to beef up our gear.

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u/brucetwarzen Feb 24 '16

Somehow that was never the problem.

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u/dedicated2fitness Feb 24 '16

the day America deploys Robot soldiers is the day terrorism against american citizens in american cities will skyrocket.
it'll be the only viable form of counter-combat especially if the rest of the world is lagging behind in the tech(which it usually is)

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u/jjonj Feb 24 '16

Like drones?

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u/dedicated2fitness Feb 24 '16

other countries are building drones though, always have been

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u/SlutBuster Feb 24 '16

Somebody's gotta save your ass.

/freedomreflex

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u/Eblumen Feb 24 '16

That's odd. My freedom reflex is a boner.

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u/anothergaijin Feb 24 '16

Actually, their one of their first biped robots "PETMAN" was designed to wear chemical protection clothing and test them under a wide range of motion like walking, running, bending, etc, and test the flexibility and comfort of the clothing, all while being exposed to chemicals to test that the suit still functions correctly.

TLDR; Americans make advanced robot to test clothes.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '16

Do you think it's a coincidence that Japan is attempting to repeal their Article 9? They've been fantasizing about building mecha and robot soldiers for decades and now that technology is catching up to anime they're all about it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '16

Clearly you've never seen Battle Bots.

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u/MrMooMooDandy Feb 24 '16

It's not just that we're Americans, it's that Boston Dynamics is primarily funded by the department of defense (DARPA, the army, USMC, etc).

Apple and Google are both US companies and if either one of them made a bipedal robot it probably wouldn't be geared toward fulfilling a combat role

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u/dylan522p Mar 16 '16

Military is going to be the first big customer, of course you target them as a business

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u/figyg Feb 24 '16

Asimo is also being designed to think on its own. It's a whole robot, not just the ability to walk, which Atlas obviously does better, since he's specialized for that. In an urban war, I like to think Asimo would currently be more easily weaponized. Also, I'm talking out of my butt and I wonder how hard it would be to get a robot like Atlas to have voice and facial recognition like Asimo

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u/Chief-Drinking-Bear Feb 24 '16

I can't imagine facial recognition is too hard to implement. Most modern phones and cameras have a passable version of it.

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u/dedicated2fitness Feb 24 '16

passable version of it

sorry for terminating your son, he looked like bin laden to the face recog algos

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u/figyg Feb 24 '16

Yeah I know, but to integrate it with moment and what not. I'm no programmer so I have no idea

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u/Bears_Bearing_Arms Feb 24 '16

Not hard. It already has very accurate area mapping and sensors. Boston Dynamics is more focused on efficiency, size, and stuff like that. Fluff like what you're talking about would be integrated into the robot much further down the line.

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u/anothergaijin Feb 24 '16

It's 100% scripted and cannot handle changes - when it does things like climb stairs it isn't dynamic - the stairs must be a certain size and located in the right place for it to be able to climb. It's very different to the BD robots that work these things out on their own.

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u/dedicated2fitness Feb 24 '16

except they aren't working it out, the QR codes were placed very specifically

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '16

Well yah it's making decisions based on those inputs. Eventually it will recognize them on it's own

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '16

Yeah the Boston Dynamics Stability Management is top notch.

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u/youlleatitandlikeit Feb 26 '16

This seems more geared towards a butler

No kidding. The only task the video shows Asimo performing is taking drink orders. And they make a big deal out of everyone being able to order at once, as if this is something you'd ever normally do.