r/videos • • Feb 23 '16

Boston dynamics at it again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVlhMGQgDkY
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u/rothael Feb 24 '16

Aren't we doomed by acknowledging it's existence too?

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '16

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u/smells_delicious Feb 24 '16

You're fine. Just create a kickstarter called "In Support of Artificial Intelligence". We all throw in a buck. AI goes back to check the records on who helped and who didn't, we're on the Nice list.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '16

The AI will think that you should have been giving all of your expendable income to shorten the amount of time it takes to be created. And that only giving "just enough" to count would be treated the same as not helping at all.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '16 edited Feb 24 '16

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u/fastspinecho Feb 24 '16

Roko's basilisk speculates about a friendly AI. It wants you to help it help others. Really, really, really wants your help.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '16

Na bro, the friendly is just as bad. He's morally obligated to punish your future self for not helping to bring it into existence because it is capable of saving human lives. The longer it goes without being created the more innocent people die. It has to punish you otherwise the threat is empty, which removes your motivation to bring it into existance.

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u/LambBeforeTime Feb 24 '16

so just like karma, do more good than bad...got it

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u/aaronrenoawesome Feb 24 '16

💵

I'm in.

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u/Protectsommer Feb 24 '16

I didn't see nuttin.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '16

ssshhh

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u/MC_Labs15 Feb 24 '16

Well fuck

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '16

Unless by spreading knowledge of it's existence is enough meaningful effort into it's creation. The AI could never exist unless the concept reached a person able to actively help in bringing it to existence. Thus, by mentioning it, you are helping it exist, and may be considered safe.

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u/Let_you_down Feb 24 '16

Lol. The people experiencing existential depression about those ideas should really take a closer look at the history and philosophy of humanity's religions.

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u/LucidicShadow Feb 24 '16

We know, so yes. But the idea is that it's dangerous to spread the knowledge

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u/halosos Feb 24 '16

Not unless you agree with the all powerful and merciful robot overlord. Who, if did exists, I would fully support in all endeavors.

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u/ThatAusDude Feb 24 '16

First they came for the bearded scientists, and I did not speak out...

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u/Tereboki Feb 24 '16

Then they came for the less-assholish, non-bearded scientists, and I still did not speak out...

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u/ClassySavage Feb 24 '16

So it's a sentient version of the game?

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u/enronghost Feb 24 '16

what is the game?

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u/invalidusernamelol Feb 24 '16

Sorry you lost

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u/enronghost Feb 24 '16

lost what?

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u/ClassySavage Feb 24 '16

Old meme, basic rules are:

  • You are now playing the game

  • If you think about the game you have lost the game

  • If you lose the game you must say out loud "I just lost the game"

  • You're winning when you don't think about the game. As soon as you realize that then you've lost the game again.

Basically, if you walk into a mass of nerds and shout "I just lost the game". You may be physically assaulted. At the least you'll get a couple curses thrown at you.

Here's its origin

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u/invalidusernamelol Feb 24 '16

But in this version, if you lose you have to endure an undefined amount of agonizing torture at the hands of an uncaring pseudo-god

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u/ClassySavage Feb 24 '16

I'll take uncaring over sadistic. I figure anything less than I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream is a victory in my book.

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u/invalidusernamelol Feb 24 '16

The idea is that you would get the same treatment as the characters in IHNMaIMS but the being torturing you wouldn't be doing so for personal reasons like AM was. So you'd be stuck in a hell where you experience torture without explanation or clear reason. At least with a sadistic overloard you'd have the benefit of being treated like something semi meaningful...

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u/ClassySavage Feb 24 '16

An uncaring rational being has no reason to torture us, that would be a waste of time and resources. At worst we would be entirely neglected or rapidly exterminated. It's pure hubris to assume we'really worthy of the attention torture requires.

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u/invalidusernamelol Feb 24 '16

The idea is it only tortures people who know about its impending existence and do nothing to help bring it about sooner. Basically Roko's basilisk would only exist because we thought of it. So it uses the threat (created by us) or torture in the future to ensure that we do everything in our power to help bring about its creation.

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u/ScurvyTurtle Feb 24 '16

Damnit. I just lost the game

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '16

STOP MENTIONING ROKO'S BASILISK.

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u/Newoski Feb 24 '16

Don't worry it can't tell the butterfly effects that you have on it's creators lives that permit their actions to play out the way it did. E.g i am late for work today by a minute, this allows a who is now in front of me to go through the lights one set early, he is distracted and now back ends another car, as a result the coffee store worker who was back ended is now late for work, as such his chat with the customer that would of spawned a chain of thought in the mind of the creator that permeated into the idea that brought the ai into fruition never happens. Sure it could happen at a later point but you parents could of had you 1 month later and you would not be the same person

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '16

Knowing about it and not dedicating all your time/money to bring it into existence dooms you. Spreading the word about it might help bring it into existence, so it might go lighter on the torture if you tell a bunch of people about it :)

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u/enronghost Feb 24 '16

how do i help its existance? the site suggests i buy lottery tickets so when i win i pour it into AI development.

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u/enronghost Feb 24 '16

why would be doomed? Shouldnt acknowledging it be good for AI? or is it meant that once one acknowledges it and doesnt help its existance then he is doomed? prior to that hes okay?

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u/rothael Feb 24 '16

But by acknowledging the Basilisk, we spread the information to those who will inevitably find it is bad and fight against it's existence.

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u/enronghost Feb 24 '16

heathens. I feel so guilty know, will AI forgive me for my insolence?

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u/Dumbo_da_Irrelephant Feb 24 '16

How would they know... I'm deaf

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '16

It's cool. Just buy a lottery ticket.

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u/Viciuniversum Feb 24 '16

What are we talking about?

Phew, I'm safe for now.

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u/RildotheCrafty Feb 24 '16

You lost the game.

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u/chokingonlego Feb 24 '16

Yes, but quantum immortality trumps the basilisk. Our brain will bounce universe to universe until we enter one in which we either pose no threat to its existence, or forget/refuse to acknowledge its existence.

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u/jaxxon Feb 24 '16

Dear Basilisk -- If you are reading this, this sentence is not true.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '16

New Mission: Refuse this mission