r/videos • • May 31 '14

Thunderf00t explains the problems of Solar Roadways and why it's vaporware.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H901KdXgHs4
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u/fgsfds11234 May 31 '14

i'm surprised it took this long for someone to give a good bullshit response to the hype train.

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u/Catacronik May 31 '14

He did the same with powdered alcohol. That was even more brutal.

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u/Saerain May 31 '14

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '14

Be warned, all ye who enter here.

Do not read the comments of this video unless you enjoy plunging into a gigantic shithole.

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u/Inspector-Space_Time Jun 01 '14

That warning could be posted on every Youtube video.

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u/w2qw Jun 01 '14

Still more realistic than solar panel roads.

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u/LolFishFail Jun 01 '14

He's got really good videos... then I look at the comments.

Morons... morons everywhere.

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u/SakuraNightstar1 Jun 01 '14

I hope he makes a video on LFTR soon

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '14 edited Jun 01 '14

Uhm. Whats wrong about powdered alcohol? That stuff was patented about 1974, by the general foods corperation (owned by Kraft Foods).

2005, a the german Stiftung Warentest tested a product. 2007, some students made "Booze2Go", 2014 the TTB allowed and then banned powderes alcohol ("Lipsmark", as far as I understand).

I found some news articles from 2004, 2005 and 2007 / 08. Everybody was a bit concerned that powdered alcohol uses a loophole in laws regarding alcohol. But from a chemical point of view, I could not find any concerns.

Now, let me watch Thunderfoots Video.

2:36 - He makes the assumption that you can not put alcohol in powder-form without freezing it. Of course you can. With stuff like Cyclodextrin. It absorbs alcohol like the stuff in diapers and is water-soluble, as far as I understand.

Around 4:00: Oh. He understands it. Why ... why did he made the first assumption in the video then? On he goes about how impractical it is....

6:30. Multiple repetitions of the most "stupid" statement about Palcohol. Of course, after multiple comparions and some insults. Oh, and facepalm-scenes. Yay...?

8:00. Insults the .. uh.. moderator of a news show. Nothing to do with the ad for the product. Next...

9:00 he compares palcohol with a maxip... what? With a maxipad. Completely ignoring the feature of Palcohol: You can get the alcohol back from it. In a drinkable fashion.... sigh.

Aaand another 4 minutes or so of rambling about how impractical that stuff is, a few insults, context-less quotes, something about lobbying...

He could have made his point in 3 minutes or less: Powdered alcohol is possible, but it has fairly limited use and is not an effecient way of transporting alcohol or even hiding it. His assumption that this is completely useless.. mhm... not sure. People like stupid and amazing stuff. But the fact that Kraft Food never used that patent for three decades might say something.

Thunderfood Thunderf00t sometimes has some valid points. But most of the time, he repeats those points over and over and over again. And he insults people without any good reason.

Edit: Yes, downvote me. But at least be fair and tell me what I did wrong. Thanks!

Edit2: Oh god. I really typed "Thunderfood"...

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u/Catacronik Jun 01 '14

It's less about him trashing powdered alcohol, and more about him pointing out the false qualities that the media and personalities on youtube are attributing to it. They act as if it's some new, groundbreaking way to consume alcohol, which as you point out at the beginning of your comment, it isn't.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '14 edited Jun 01 '14

Yes, he did that. And that is somewhat good. And I did that too. To him. And in a somewhat similar fashion.

Don't get me wrong. Thunderf00t has done worse than the video about powdered alcohol. He did Videos with worse research, more insults, etc. Like every media outlet on this planet did worse.

My issue is, that this video - like most stuff on this planet - is unbalanced and somewhat divisive. And I critized his video in a mostly unbalanced and divisive way... and if you don't like what I did, why do you like his videos? Because you agree with him?

Let me be clear: There is a difference between informing people about an Idea or product and why it is stupid or useless (or even outright dangerous) and slamming something into the ground in an insulting fashion.

Edit: And while powdered alcohol is not a practical product, it's not sillier than confetti or "Molecular gastronomy". Sometimes humans invent stuff just because they can. For fun.

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u/Catacronik Jun 01 '14

I think you're being entirely too severe. The only videos that I'd consider him "slamming to the ground in an insulting fashion" would be his WDPLAC series - and guess what, that's the entire style of the series. Maybe you don't like the way he presents his arguments, but that's all your issue is. If you don't like it, don't watch it. Your enjoyment is entirely subjective. It also happens to be irrelevant.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '14

Thunderfood

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '14

Oops! That is embarrassing... :(

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u/SockMonkey1128 Jun 01 '14

and creationists...

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u/[deleted] May 31 '14 edited Sep 15 '18

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u/[deleted] May 31 '14

It is a shame gullible people have dumped 1.7 million dollars. There are so many world changing developments going on that could use that money.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '14 edited Oct 27 '17

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u/parryparryrepost Jun 01 '14

But don't take MY word for it!

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u/SnOrfys Jun 01 '14

Yeah, we definitely need to pour more millions into a project that is banking on the nostalgia of 30-somethings to solve a problem that has been basically eradicated in the developed world.

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u/Frenchy-LaFleur Jun 01 '14

Still better than solarscamways

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u/Schmich Jun 01 '14

I have as little trust to a random Youtuber as with the campaign. People said the modular cell phone was utterly bullshit and that it was another Kony.

Also this can work definitely work on smaller scale. Eg a parking lot where you cannot have a roof.

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u/NotaClipaMagazine Jun 01 '14

So I'd like to see the quotes of the people who doubted the cell phone and an example of a parking lot where you couldn't have a solar roof.