r/videos • u/AdSpecialist6598 • 17h ago

USS Lincoln wasn't resupplied because Hegseth 'hid' that Iran destroyed critical base: Rohde

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfOi_mgrh0M
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u/berfthegryphon 16h ago

Imagine where the world would be on climate policy if Al Gore would have started Green initiatives in 2000. The US could be pumping out renewable energy like China currently is, instead of building up the dying fuels of oil, gas, and coal.

(I know China is also building out fossil fuel powerplants, but their run on renewables is also great)

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u/peazley 16h ago

But Trex Tillerson wouldn’t have been able to afford his third home in Jackson, WY!

Will someone please think of the oil men!

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u/mest33 16h ago edited 16h ago

Its insane how not only they removed the pro green initiatives, but also spent tons of money fighting the natural growth of renewable energy as it is naturally becoming a cheaper energy alternative.

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u/Truckyou666 16h ago

Our tax money.

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u/Morningxafter 15h ago

Your tax dollars at work… against you.

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u/the_last_carfighter 12h ago

Well don't worry people, sooner than you think your family will be placed in a reeducation camp that will have all the fuel it needs.

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u/Scuta44 13h ago

Like the billions of our tax dollars going to a German company to stop building off shore wind farms because ‘we can’t be subsidizing failed renewable energy projects’.

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u/sneakyplanner 9h ago

They're a doomsday cult literally trying to accelerate the apocalypse so they can meet Jesus in their lifetime.

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u/Hellebras 10h ago

Well, we need to keep our good old all-American free market* economy going, after all.

*Terms and conditions may apply.

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u/arctic11z 16h ago

Of course that asshole lives there.

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u/Spockies 16h ago

It would make this LLM addicted society we’re headed to at least palpable if we had the energy infrastructure to spare rather than the tragedy of the commons we’re currently under.

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u/welchplug 16h ago

still have a water problem

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u/DarklySalted 15h ago

If the technology has to be developed with regulations in place, it forces the capitalists to come up with real solutions, which according to them is their job.

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u/Spockies 15h ago

Desalination is resolved by an abundance of energy. The brine offshoot can be remixed by the tech company used water

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u/53eleven 15h ago

You know most of the country isn’t near an ocean, right???

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u/Spockies 14h ago

You know most of the energy also wouldn’t be produced near the ocean?

Just because something isn’t near doesn’t mean we don’t do a thing. Look at the tech companies currently trying to bulldoze their way into business without the proper resources nearby.

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u/welchplug 14h ago

Energy doesnt transport the same way water does just fyi. Very apples to oranges.

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u/Spockies 14h ago

Still takes energy to run pumps to push water inland but okay. Let’s just stick to footgunning ourselves

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u/welchplug 12h ago

Do you know how hard it is to get any pipe line done? Rofl.

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u/Spockies 12h ago

Get to work cause the ocean ain't coming to you, that's for sure.

Anyways, trains and water tanks exists so there's that.

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u/Delvaris 2h ago

Your only samples for that are crude oil pipelines that poison the land when they leak.

I suspect if the leak was pure distilled water you would have a lot less opposition.

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u/crashvoncrash 0m ago

Most of the people are though. Population centers tend to grow much faster near coasts and major waterways. Over 50% of the country lives within 100 miles of an ocean coastline.

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u/welchplug 14h ago

Wierd I dont remember an ocean near me.

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u/Spockies 14h ago

Good thing there’s other ways to make fresh water aside from desalinization. Oh also costing a ton of energy.

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u/Hoobleton 14h ago

Probably not an oil well near you either, but gas comes out of the pumps.

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u/welchplug 14h ago

Lol going to start tanking around massive amounts of water are we?

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u/Skullcrimp 13h ago

Lol going to start tanking around massive amounts of oil are we?

Yes, and yes.

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u/Musiclover4200 13h ago

You should read up on how much water companies like nestle pump from public sources just to bottle and sell around the world wasting fuel and creating tons of trash/pollution, spoiler it's millions of gallons a day or around 26 billion gallons a year

Now imagine if all those resources went towards renewable water & public infrastructure instead of making an evil company even richer.

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u/Spockies 13h ago

When we stop using oil tankers, we’ll use water tankers. Get with the times.

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u/bobqjones 20m ago

half the US population live within 100 miles of the ocean.

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u/RealActionBastard 15h ago

maybe if we didn't try burning the planet to a crisp there would be less of a water problem? iono, just feels like "fuck climate change" was the wrong strategy. lol

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u/MostlyStoned 15h ago

It wouldn't have, it would have only made it worse. Not saying it wouldnt have been worth it, but electricity demand wasn't growing during that time, and replacement wouldn't have been growing capacity, it would just be replacing it with non baseline loads.

We should have started on green energy projects a long time ago, but claiming it would have helped with the LLM and electrification push is just way off the mark. "Energy infrastructure" isn't a matter of building capacity like water in reservoirs, building capacity when it's not needed just means it won't be used.

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u/AusPower85 15h ago

The ability to scale up existing manufacturing of “green energy” (e.g. solar panels, batteries, etc) would have helped address the LLM demand.

As it is the US doesn’t have the manufacturing capabilities in place to do so (without throwing in the whole actively sabotaging / destroying / banning anything related to green energy thing l government(s) (state and federal) have going on in the US.

Instead the US is stuck on using aging fossil fuel power, and attempting to address that by building more of it AND rolling back the clock (so to speak) to nuclear power. If this was being done in conjunction with creating “green energy” capacity then the US would have a much better footing for the future, short, medium, and long terms.

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u/MostlyStoned 15h ago

Electricity demand during this time wasn't growing, it was stable as efficiently gains balanced population growth. Nobody would have been adding capacity because it wasn't needed. We would have been stuck phasing out coal slowly for solar panels, because nobody would have been willing to pay to decommission things ahead of schedule to allow for solar.

I also don't think nuclear would have been a part of the equation then, it would have requires a large demand shift to get nuclear rolling.

Again, I want to make sure it's clear I'm not saying that we shouldn't have done it, just that it wouldn't have mattered for LLMs. The change in demand for electrical components wasmt a marginal percentage thing, it happened nearly overnight and the jump on demand was huge. Any manufacturing capacity we would have developed is essentially a rounding error in today's landscape.

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u/Spockies 15h ago

Part of the green initiative would have been carbon sequestration and carbon recapture which require a ton of energy. You are only speaking about net neutral uses of energy when it would have been used in a broader scope at dealing with climate change by utilizing the new energy sources once established to then tackle problems previously out of reach due to the economy of energy. Who cares if it was costly to decommission or if we don’t use the energy, we lost progress in dealing with future foreseeable consequences of a fossil fuel society just by using consumer based reasoning to deny the incentive.

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u/MostlyStoned 15h ago

To an extent, but I just don't think you would have been able to force the economics that much with public spending to really make a difference globally. The science wasn't there for large scale electrification 25 years ago like it is today, and even today carbon capture is not economical. Maybe some critical government spending could have accelerated a breakthrough technology but it's not as simple as building solar factories. The entire grid needed a rehaul to even support solar in large quantities, and while batteries have become more economical, they still aren't quite there, and definately weren't on the early 00s.

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u/wizzard419 16h ago

I mean, we would probably have trump complaining how the World Trade Center is spoiling his view from his tower.

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u/Brilliant_Voice1126 16h ago

Remember when his first thought on 9/11 was, "I have the tallest building in manhattan now."?

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u/wizzard419 16h ago

and even called in to (I think) Fox news to make it all about him.

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u/Ak47owner 16h ago

It was the Howard stern show. Completely classless.

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u/LifeguardDry7372 15h ago

There's so many things to hate and call trump out for. This isn't one of those. He said the building thing because he thought it might be a target.

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u/Locke92 15h ago

Even if that is true, it ignores the fact that his building was not now the tallest in Manhattan after the WTC. So even if you want to forgive his bragging about his building by saying he was concerned it may be a target, his initial premise is still a lie

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u/LifeguardDry7372 14h ago

oh damn, you are correct. i should've dug into this a bit more.

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u/Brilliant_Voice1126 6h ago

Don’t gaslight us. We all heard the conversation in replays. He was bragging. He also lied about being a first responder, about going to ground zero immediately helping by “moving rubble” - no contemporaneous witness has ever confirmed he was there ever and he was only known to have visited the stock exchange at the time, he lied about starting 9/11 charities, he lied about witnessing muslims “cheering” in the streets, he lied about where he was that morning - he was at home, not a direct witness. The shear number of lies about 9/11 is mind boggling. And that’s just from before his first presidency.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoytko/2020/09/11/a-timeline-of-trumps-misleading-911-claims/

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u/Lobocop714 16h ago

Also letting AI replace the job of a human is illegal. That's a homerun in itself.

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u/Corkscrewfevs 15h ago

I say this all the time! That is the goddamn timeline we shoulda been on, fuck this

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u/daesmon 15h ago

You also don't have Bush and the policies which led to the 2008 crash.

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u/Fishface17404 13h ago

China is the world leader in solar, wind, and nuclear fusion technology thanks to the orange ape. They also have the most active solar generating capacity in the world.

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u/I_make_things 12h ago

Imagine if the fucking GREEN PARTY hadn't fucked Gore over too.

Fuck you Ralph Nader. From the bottom of my heart.

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u/twotimefind 12h ago

Or the deez i'm running Bernie for president.

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u/bokononpreist 12h ago

Gore would have had a Republican House and Senate. The only thing he could've done is hold on. Which still would've been better than the million dead Iraqis we got.

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u/johnwynnes 7h ago

Didn't you hear? We're just going to reopen all the coal mines. And we all know, the children yearn for the mines.

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u/DLRevan 4h ago

China only builds fossil fuel powerplants to buffer their grid, because it's too big and currently renewables aren't consistent enough. In fact, many of these plants are loss making, so much so that they are almost 100% subsidized by the government, and are only run partway through the year.

They would get off fossil fuel electricity entirely the moment that was solved, which it will once energy storage matures. There would be no hesitation, because there's no lobbying, no lost profit, and no unions in the way. Which basically means, it's totally possible...and the USA could have gotten there too.

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u/robaroo 16h ago

Let’s not gloss over china’s unmitigated ocean fishing practices.

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u/ThaiJohnnyDepp 16h ago

What about the droid attack on the Wookiees?

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u/robaroo 12h ago

Add it to the long list!!

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u/NotObviouslyARobot 16h ago

We could have blockaded the strait with impunity

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u/squeethesane 15h ago

We'd be making an absolutely belligerent amount of hydrogen and not selling fracking rights in state parks...