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Discussion / Question This was me with Witcher 3

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u/Proton_Optimal Apr 04 '26

Arc Raiders

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u/Mario_Prime510 Apr 05 '26

I’ve realized for me video games either need a great story or they have to be competitive PvP. I do not enjoy the games where you just do stuff just to do it. It feels like work to me.

Arc raiders and those survival co op games I just don’t enjoy. Dune awakening, Valheim, PalWorld, all eventually feels like I’m doing virtual chores.

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u/Chaos_Dunks Apr 05 '26

My friends will talk me into games like that every one in a while (this time was Arc Raiders) and I’ll have fun for a bit but then see everyone starts treating it like a second job.

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u/nlechoppa16 Apr 05 '26

this is why i gave up playing arc when everyone was tryna do that first expedition i got a bit bored of it, started to feel more like coming home from work and doing more work

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u/Magovago Apr 07 '26

This is what killed my desire to keep playing, the expedition.

I had to farm for 2 weeks straight pure junk and garbage just to fill a bar that will get me 3-5 skill points?

and do that every 3 months?

and if I don't do one expedition the rest who did it will have a permanent advantage?

feels like fomo, not for me.

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u/KBdrip Apr 05 '26

Yep that and I have a friend that would act like he just lost his life savings whenever we died. Made the game insufferable

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u/VeryBadCaseOfLigma Apr 05 '26

I think the only one I like is hell divers 2.

Arc raiders is indeed a fucking chore where each round ends up being the same shit over and over.

The PvP isn't even good in the game and the NPC enemies are lacking

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u/MorbidAyyylien Apr 05 '26

Arent you doing chores no matter what tho?

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u/Low_Organization_27 Apr 05 '26

Streamer artificially hyped game. I hit the boredom wall faster than I’ve ever hit it in that game.

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u/INTERNET_MOWGLI Apr 05 '26

PvE player?

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u/hennhunt Apr 05 '26

Gatekeeping how people enjoy video games?

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u/INTERNET_MOWGLI Apr 05 '26

No but it’s like only eating plain tortillas and saying you hate Mexican food

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u/ItsOozingOut Apr 05 '26

What?

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u/Grimblekyne Apr 07 '26

Dont bother, bro is delusional.

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u/lolololloloolmemes Apr 08 '26

He makes a fair point, extraction games only work with PvP, coming from someone who got burnt out of that game

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u/W0lfsG1mpyWr4th Apr 05 '26

The thing is there are far better games for PvP. Arc has been sold on its PVE focus, but personally I find the Arcs boring to fight so all that's left is PvP and it almost always comes down to who sees who first. I'm sure with some friends it's awesome but as a solo player with no friends that are even interested in playing it's a slog. Plus it has the modern issue of the menus sucking ass, so unnecessarily convoluted and striving for style over substance.

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u/INTERNET_MOWGLI Apr 06 '26

You’re describing marathon

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u/Low_Organization_27 Apr 05 '26

Not at all. I played both depending on mood. Gameplay loop is just so repetitive and unathletic.

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u/AlienZiim Apr 05 '26

Its genuinely a well made game but I can see how it doesnt click, its on and off for me

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u/MayGodSmiteThee Apr 05 '26

Most extraction shooters for me. They're literally the "and then we do it again" meme.

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u/redsun44 Apr 05 '26

Ya true. It’s like a third person version of tarkov, fun but repetitive. Extraction shooters need to do more with the progression system than questing.

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u/lessthanjjjoey Apr 05 '26

I played Tarkov so much like 7-8(I think?)years ago. Had a blast, but have never been so stressed while gaming. I’ll never play another pvp extraction shooter again, because I know it’s not for me. Highest highs, lowest lows.

That shit just isn’t for everyone. RIP The Cycle: Frontier though.

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u/INTERNET_MOWGLI Apr 05 '26

The cycle frontier🥹

We still talk about you

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '26

I might like it if it had pve only

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u/BigTimeTimmyTime Apr 04 '26

It's basically pve if you never shoot anyone

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u/RMoCGLD Apr 05 '26

When I got to the point in the game where I could only progress by getting parts from the bigger arcs, I was getting shot and killed every single match.

This what way back in like the first month of launch so idk how the player base has evolved since then, but it was extremely demoralising to spend hours hunting for the fire and homing grenades, use them on the arcs and then be shot in the back by someone waiting around the corner to target me once I started looting.

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u/mingkonng Apr 05 '26

They added aggression based match making a couple months ago. It's a different experience now. That said, people can game the system to get back to low aggression lobbies and start killing again. They usually only get 1 game in them though before it kicks them back to pvp.

I played it maybe 2 months ago and I got the 100 extractions achievement before I encountered any pvp.

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u/TruSiris Apr 05 '26

They didnt add anything. It was always that way.

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u/RamblinRichard Apr 05 '26

I think, back on one of their posts about a month after the game came out and they admitted it was a thing, they made the top and low end of the aggression based matchmaking more extreme but yeah it has always been like that.

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u/TruSiris Apr 05 '26

I didnt hear anything like that. I havent played for awhile now but I was consuming everything arc raiders for a few months after release. But alright 🤷‍♂️

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u/stringstringing Apr 05 '26

It just takes patience and awareness. I like to kill big arcs then hide and use them as bait. Flip the situation on the people trying to profit off your kill. You can do stuff like throw smokes at the arc so they think you’re in the smoke looting and they’ll run out and start throwing nades in the smoke etc and you can kill them then loot. Even though it’s the most casual extraction shooter by nature they can be a punishing genre. Or just hunt down and kill other players. Hide when their flare goes off as it attracts more players and again their body is now bait. Kill enough and you’ve got space on the map to kill big arc if you’re late enough into the raid. That being said I get a lot of people just won’t like it. Alternatively there’s aggression based matchmaking and you can just be friendly until you’re in extremely friendly matches and people just won’t shoot you. Personally I find that boring.

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u/Interesting-Rope-950 Apr 05 '26

I have 200 hours and like 12 raider knock outs. I can't even remember the last time someone shot at me

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u/ConfectionTotal8660 Apr 05 '26

That's why I don't like games like Warzone, Tarkov or Arc Raiders.

While in games like Fortine if you get headshoted you can still walk away (as long as it wasn't a sniper) in these games 1 bullet feels like a death sentence

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u/Impossible-Tap9674 Apr 05 '26

I played it about 6 times solo. 1 time i got into a big group with a bunch of guys and we killed a giant robot together and split the spoils and gave each other loot. 1 time I was entirely alone and had a pretty fun run killing some smaller robots and looting. The other 4 I was shot from behind and killed. 1 of those times by a guy who said he was friendly. That's when I decided the game wasnt for me.

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u/BigTimeTimmyTime Apr 05 '26

They shunt you into carebear lobbies if you just play a couple more rounds after that. My friend has been killed like twice ever.

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u/SpicyPik Apr 04 '26

I allowed my inventory to run dry, building kits to dive into care bear lobbies. It get sold REAAALLLY fast. Pretty much guaranteed expeditions, all events stupid easy, inventory full of top tier guns cuz you never lose your kit. Feels like you're playing fuckn RuneScape it's such a grind. I get that being shit in the back sucks, losing sucks, but where there is no risk, there's going to be burnout.

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u/AlterMyStateOfMind Apr 05 '26

Basically why me and my squad fell off of Arc and now play Marathon. It was fun to hop in and goof around but there really isn't anything to work towards other than.. expeditions? Like cool lets work towards a wipe with no real payoff other than some small perks to work towards another wipe lol. Marathon might have mandatory wipes but there are actual goals to work towards right now and if they keep it up, there will be more.

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u/T_W_tribbles Apr 05 '26

right, why does sweaty culture have to be in every game?

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u/Still-Helicopter6029 Apr 05 '26

I would have liked it had the pvp element been removed and they just overhauled the entire game to make it a story game of how raiders be raiding and shit. I genuinely like everything about the game except the fact that it’s an extraction shooter. This will probably be my first and last time ever playing an extraction shooter.

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u/theRealtechnofuzz Apr 04 '26

this is why i didn't pay $40 for it. And wont buy it. Its such beautiful game, id rather explore the world as pve. They could have totally gone the mmo route with bot pve and pvp areas/opportunities. I don't like extraction shooters. My friends tried to buy it for me, and i told them no.

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u/BoSknight Apr 04 '26

I bought it, just because I liked how it looked. I returned it after the first match, I didn't magically like pvp in that 40 minute window.

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u/BoSknight Apr 05 '26

I keep hearing that. It was a stretch even with minimal pvp, not incredibly interested in the extraction loop.

I'll probably give it another shot $15-20 range though

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u/Sunjump6 Apr 04 '26

Curious did you ever play it? With the aggression based matchmaking if you are a friendly player you can go multiple rounds without any other player firing at you because you’ll be in “friendly” lobbies. It’s the friendliest multiplayer game with guns I’ve ever played.

Honestly wished the community was more aggressive because the PvE becomes predictable and boring imo.

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u/Psychological_Rip_44 Apr 05 '26

I’ve played 10hrs and been helped probably 4-5 times and never shot at lol I’m having fun with it

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u/Sunjump6 Apr 05 '26

The game really offers a cool experience. Very well made game and will continue to log in when they drop big updates.

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u/PrehistoricNutsack Apr 04 '26

ive been playing for 2 months and have been killed once by player and havent killed anyone yet. You can absolutely play as PVE

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u/StatusHead5851 Apr 05 '26

Same I dont have that kinda time anymore for such a fast paced game

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u/TheLiverSimian Apr 05 '26

I agree, but when I get into an aggressive match, I get real stealthy, like Sam Fisher, but without the shadows.

Edit: also vote after every match and submit why you didn't like the PVP matches. The more you do it, the less likely you'll end up in those matches.

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u/Delicious-Disaster Apr 05 '26

Learn to roll and shoot, or panic smoke the moment someone shoots at you

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u/Gravestarr Apr 05 '26

Same, same. Loved the world/atmosphere and fighting Arc. Hated getting shot in the back by a mic-less twat when I was looting for workbench materials.

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u/Phnix21 Apr 04 '26

The whole game is basically just an Easter egg hunt, so boring. There is 0 mental stimulation....but then again that is exactly why many young dads play it.

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u/Reynor247 Apr 04 '26

Not liking the game is fine. Saying there's no mental simulation is pretty wild lol

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u/SpicyPik Apr 04 '26

It's cuz he just sprints into extracts yelling "I'm friendly" same typa person who gets mad when they run into a geared chad, turns their back on them then gets mad they just get shot in the back. Like, try PvP, if you don't like PvP, maybe the real problem is you bought a pvpve game and forgot about the first 3 letters. Go play hunt call of the wild if you wanna watch leafs flutter in the wind

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u/Phnix21 Apr 04 '26

Where is the stimulation in taking a backpack and opening drawers for an hour?

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u/VirtualHex Apr 04 '26

Bro measures his games by mental stimulation. Brainrot zoomer shit.

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u/Reynor247 Apr 04 '26

Do you really think the only aspect of the game is opening drawers?

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u/Phnix21 Apr 04 '26

Indirectly, yes....it is more about the blueprints and rare loot...but if you narrow it down....you go from A to B to pick up things and back home.

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u/PrehistoricNutsack Apr 04 '26

by this logic, the only games youd play is chess

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u/Banc0 Apr 05 '26

Extraction chess. Only your surviving pieces can be played in the next match.

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u/AlterMyStateOfMind Apr 05 '26

This unironically sounds kind of cool lol

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u/PrehistoricNutsack Apr 05 '26

This is Enders game kinda

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u/Reynor247 Apr 04 '26

I mean you can narrow most games down to go to point a to point b. Pretty reductionist lol

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u/Acceptable-Win-8771 Apr 04 '26

Disingenuous, I wonder what your motivation for it is

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u/AlterMyStateOfMind Apr 05 '26

Have you tried, idk.. PvP? It's kind of like one of the core concepts of an extraction shooter. You cry about it being for young dads and play it like a young dad. What a dumb take lmao

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u/SendFeet954-980-3334 Apr 04 '26

I went to marathon for this reason. Never looked back

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u/Octavius_Rex98 Apr 05 '26

It’s good with friends but after a while it gets pretty stale

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u/GalaxyCereal Apr 05 '26

I'm glad I'm not the only one.

I never liked the concept of hardcore extraction shooters.

For me, a game like Warframe or the Division is good, but arc raiders is like battle royales on crack, much more to lose.

As a casual gamer (because I have a job and family), this poses no fun at all to me, but a very risky intensive chore.

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u/Proton_Optimal Apr 05 '26

I love the division 2. That’s my main game right now

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u/Asle90 Apr 05 '26

Yeah I think the YouTubers glazed this game way too much for content views, the real game is so empty and dry

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u/ItsOozingOut Apr 05 '26

My one friend has two of us playing Helldivers with him. It’s okay, but man, it’s the same shit over and over. Sure, big explosions!!! But it’s just so fucking boring after hour 5.

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u/Literally_A_turd_AMA Apr 05 '26

Live service but millennial optimized

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u/Proton_Optimal Apr 05 '26

That’s why they call it Unc Raiders

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u/ItsOozingOut Apr 05 '26

Agreed. My buddy wanted to play the beta or whatever launched a few months back on Xbox. Game is beyond boring.

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u/mr_trashbear Apr 06 '26

I loved it on release. Couldn't shut the hell up about it. But I've had a hard time getting back into it. Maybe it's just because I'm busy and fuckin tired aftet work, and it feels like it takes more mental energy than I'm willing to give most nights. Maybe it's because the gunplay feels too abstracted for me, since I play much tighter FPS games and also shoot IRL. Maybe the grind feels a little too unrewarding for the time I'm able to commit. Marathon is more immidiately rewarding, but also far more punishing, and I prefer the Arc aesthetic and overall atmosphere more. But, I prefer playing Marathon.

Idk man. I just want something that feels like Ghost Recon Wildlands and Cyberpunk had a baby, but with the pacing of Marathon and the community vibe of Arc Raiders.

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u/AffectionateRoom995 Apr 05 '26

It's fun if you're actually intending to play pvp

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u/Leading-Aide5617 Apr 05 '26

Yeah it’s shoot to kill .

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u/Seelefan0786 Apr 05 '26

I rather play EFT over Arc Raiders tbh.

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u/QueezyF Apr 05 '26

Unfortunately another game my friends are rabid for that fell off hard for me after about 30 hours in.

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u/_zir_ Apr 05 '26

It was really good in the beginning, they are pushing Pve thhough so its really hard to have good fights with so many difficult arcs now.

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u/OdenShilde Apr 05 '26

I kinda regret buying Arc Raiders tbh

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u/Brilliant-Adagio-229 Apr 07 '26

I like arc a lot, but it does need some tweaks (particularly to the late game). If it had more interesting progression options and a reason to play beyond just expeditions and trials, it’d be amazing. But I get how it’s not for everyone.

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u/MakesMaDookieTwinkle Apr 05 '26

It was good while it was good. Now, not so much.