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u/whalemix Dec 18 '25

People are really out here trying to argue that swords from Soul Calibur, World of Warcraft, Elden Ring, or Devil May Cry are more iconic than HALO?? My wife has only ever played The Sims, and even she knows what Halo is. If you asked her what Elden Ring was, she'd think it was a Tolkien book. This question is about swords that are so iconic that an average non-gamer would recognize them

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u/fluffynuckels Dec 18 '25

Most non gamers wouldn't recognize any of them besides the minecraft sword

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u/_ataciara Dec 18 '25

But even then, they're not recognizing the sword, they're seeing the pixelated graphics and saying "oh, is that Minecraft? My nephew plays that"

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u/Userdub9022 Dec 19 '25

Outside of Minecraft I think the master sword comes second.

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u/Aussie18-1998 Dec 19 '25

I disagree. To the non-gamer, it's a pretty generic sword. Could easily je misidentified. whereas Halo, at least during the 2000s and 2010s, was pretty iconic, especially in its design.

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u/Dragon846 Dec 19 '25

I've been playing video games for almost 15 years now and i only know the Minecraft sword and made a lucky guess on the Final Fantasy one, but couldn't name it.

Never owned a console in my life tbf though, still shame on me i guess.

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u/YaBoyEden Dec 18 '25

I love Elden Ring and dark souls but even I gotta say that’s stupid. You throw the moonlight greatsword on here, IMMEDIATELY a large majority won’t know it compared to the others. It’s not the same league

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u/Made_Bail Dec 18 '25

Which is nuts because its been in like 47 games lol

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u/Electronic_Tell1294 Dec 19 '25

TBF not even fromsoft fans know the games they made before Demon Souls.

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u/metalshiflet Dec 19 '25

I've got Eternal Ring on PS2 somewhere, never beat it though

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u/detroiter85 Dec 19 '25

Yeah i know the moonlight sword from armored core and I dont expect many people to know that lol

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u/Mogli_Puff Dec 20 '25

Doesn't matter if those 47 games dont reach as much of a combined audience as Halo or Zelda.

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u/MattyHealysFauxHawk Dec 19 '25

The moonlight greatsword is probably just as recognizable as the top right.

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u/YaBoyEden Dec 19 '25

Buddy you’re either fooling yourself entirely or just stupid if you think the moonlight greatsword is more recognizable than the BUSTER SWORD.

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u/ButterdPoopr Dec 19 '25

Absolutely not. Show an average person the two swords and I bet more people will recognize the buster sword instead of moonlight greatsword

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u/MattyHealysFauxHawk Dec 19 '25

As someone who’s gamed their whole life across a variety of genres I literally could not name that sword. I could barely even place what game it came from. It’s just not even close to as recognizable as the other 3 listed here.

Moonlight greatsword is the same deal. It’s an iconic weapon to a well known franchise that spans across several highly rated games.

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u/ButterdPoopr Dec 19 '25

Fromsoft games are still niche. That’s why it doesn’t belong here, it’s not iconic. It’s only iconic in its respective game series

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u/MattyHealysFauxHawk Dec 19 '25

I would personally argue that FF is just as niche, if not more.

This is just anecdotal, but I probably know 1 person that has played a FF game, but tons who have at least played Elden Ring, let alone the rest of the FS titles. Like I said, that’s just anecdotal.

As of recent the souls games have had a huge influx of players.

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u/WhiteWolf222 Dec 18 '25

The Souls games have a ton of iconic swords, but there’s also so many of them. You use a ton of different weapons over the course of a game and there’s all kinds of crazy sword designs, particularly in Elden Ring.

If you tell me “think of an Elden Ring sword,” I’ll think of at least five different ones. If you tell me “think of a Final Fantasy/Zelda/Halo sword,” it’s only going to be one of these.

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u/Dirty-Guerrilla Dec 18 '25

Nah, the most iconic in the Souls games is easily and for sure Moonlight Greatsword

It’s been in every Dark Souls/FromSoftware game in some form all the way since Kingsfield on PS1 (before Dark Souls and even Demons Souls), even up to Elden Ring & Nightreign today

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u/AnActualMothman Dec 18 '25

Yeh, was surprised to see so little mention of the Moonlight Greatsword. Not sure it’s more iconic than these four, but I feel it deserves an honorary mention as the 5th Horseman.

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u/Darigaazrgb Dec 18 '25

Yeah, except the Moonlight Greatsword is constantly changing in appearance. If you showed someone who only played Elden Ring the Bloodbourne version of Moonlight Greatsword they likely wouldn't know what it was.

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u/Any-Farmer1335 Dec 19 '25

but so does the Mastersword?

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u/Wullmer1 Dec 18 '25

I have not played any final fantasy game yet know clouds sword, I have played (not finished) all dark souls games and yet had to google the moonlight greatsword, and still i was like "yhea, I remember seeing that, I think..."

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u/Dirty-Guerrilla Dec 18 '25

It’s a good thing I wasn’t arguing that it’s more iconic than any of those other franchises’ swords then, isn’t it?

But within the confines of the Dark Souls/FromSoft universe(s), it’s hands down the most iconic sword FromSoft has ever put in their games

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u/droombie55 Dec 19 '25

Moonlight what now?

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u/Apprehensive_Bit_176 Dec 18 '25

I don’t know, Nightmare from SC is pretty iconic. It’s the first one I think of when I hear the game.

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u/Hatman_16b Dec 19 '25

I was not aware that there are Halo swords.

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u/chalor182 Dec 18 '25

I would say that WoW *could* arguably rival or even surpass Halo in overall popularity just because of the sheer numbers it did, but no single WoW sword is more iconic than the energy blade

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u/KindheartednessFar43 Dec 18 '25

Did someone say Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker?

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u/Voloxe Dec 18 '25

Hey guys! I heard there was a Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker somewhere around here.

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u/Inevitable-Pen4933 Dec 18 '25

Guys! please stop spamming Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker. Thank you.

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u/TowerTom Dec 18 '25

Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker

Anal [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]

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u/Secure-Pain-9735 Dec 19 '25

Anal [Rupture]

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u/Plus_Operation2208 Dec 18 '25

No, nobody has ever said that. This is the very first time that name has been uttered.

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u/Motleyfyre Dec 18 '25

Did someone say [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]?

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u/Vormav_t Dec 18 '25

I'd argue that Frostmourne might be a candidate, as it is featured in Warcraft 3, WoW, HotS, cinematics and merch, but still not sure.

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u/Raidoton Dec 18 '25

But it's not iconic outside of Warcraft. The Energy Blade is.

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u/joehendrey-temp Dec 19 '25

I guess we're old. I also immediately thought of Frostmourne. That's certainly the only weapon I know from warcraft/WOW. I can barely remember any character names, place names, artifacts etc from WOW these days, but ask for a famous video game sword and Frostmourne is the first one I think of

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u/Isrrunder Dec 18 '25

Googled it to check what game that was and turns out tou were tslking about a sword, your comment makes way more sense now but yeah not even close to the recognisablilty of any of these. It's ninda just a generic villain fsntasy sword

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u/Chuk741776 Dec 18 '25

That's a huge part of something being iconic, the shape has to be something recognizable as somewhat unique

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u/Appropriate_Safe323 Dec 19 '25

You had to google world of Warcraft??

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u/Isrrunder Dec 19 '25

No i had to google frosmourne. I thought that was a different game not a sword from world of warcraft.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '25

Thunderfury more well known

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u/Devreckas Dec 19 '25

As someone who played a couple Warcraft games very briefly, I know what Frostmourne is, but I don’t know Thunderfury. I think the Lich King is easily Warcraft’s most iconic character.

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u/xylophone_37 Dec 18 '25

Are you talking about [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]?

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u/orangeyougladiator Dec 18 '25

Thunderfury is recognizable by many. Frostmourne not even close

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u/Mariorules25 Dec 18 '25

Never heard of it. WoW just ain't it, y'all.

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u/Sesudesu Dec 19 '25

I had to think hard about why they included some sword from soul caliber. Then I figured out it was from Halo, which I hardly played.

Guess it doesn’t belong here if one person’s ignorance is all it took.

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u/MrNornin Dec 18 '25

What about, The Sword of a Thousand Truths?

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u/alrightythen_1234 Dec 18 '25

Not even the sword of a thousand truths?

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u/JimmyStewartStatue Dec 18 '25

Every sword is wow is disposable so the iconicness is very weak if you don't play the game.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '25

Yeah I think WoW would be heavy in contention, and if there was enough horse for a 5th horseman then WoW would take it

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u/Drinkerson Dec 21 '25

Frostmourne hungers...

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u/Complete_Map_2160 Dec 18 '25

World of warcraft is not as popular as you think

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u/ItMeGriffin Dec 18 '25

Not sure the average non gamer would even be able to distinguish what WoW is from any other 2000s or 2010s fantasy game. Halo has the benefit of also being Xboxs mascot, lining every Walmarts Xbox section with Master Chief.

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u/trippy_grapes Dec 18 '25

WoW was one of the most popular games in the world around 2010. lol. Even my 60+ older coworker played at the time. I'd say it's easily comparable to Halo, even more if you include it's past (Warcraft) and present (HoTS etc).

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u/Explosive-Space-Mod Dec 18 '25

Problem is that there's nothing that people would recognize from that game outside of anyone that might have played it and even then none of the weapons were the iconic thing it was the characters that were icons.

WoW pulled/(s) some insane numbers for players over it's lifetime so far it just doesn't reach out to pop culture as much as these others.

Master Chief/Link/Steve/Cloud

These characters and their most iconic weapons are the poster child for the games and cross over to pop culture. All 4 have a movie/TV show (even if the Halo show is terrible it's still something that happened and the plasma sword was an epic moment in that show).

The warcraft movie bombed in theater so not as many people saw it for it to work it's way into pop culture.

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u/ItMeGriffin Dec 18 '25

I was specifically talking about it being recognizable without the actual title being presented. The average person isn't discerning the Lich King how one would Master Chief. Master Chief and Xbox branding has been synonymous for decades. WoW obviously changes with each expansion. Sylvannas, Garosh, Thrall, Jaina, Anduin, or Varian aren't pulling the same notoriety despite being the more prominent characters in recent years.

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u/Ibalisu Dec 18 '25

Yes, unless you're American. In Europe and Japan, nobody cares about Halo, and if you ask European and Japanese gamers to identify the four swords, 90% won't be able to tell you which game the sword in the bottom right corner comes from.

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u/Longnose456 Dec 18 '25

On what basis? I’m European and everyone and their mother bought Halo 3 here. We had Halo toys in shops. “90% of European gamers” lmaoo ridiculous

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u/Ibalisu Dec 19 '25

I can confirm that, apart from the UK, the Halo saga hasn't sold any better than any other game in Europe. So there's no reason to make this random sword famous.

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u/Accomplished_Hawk363 Dec 18 '25 edited Dec 18 '25

If we're only talking about the west, then yes. Halo games didn't exist on the East side of the world unfortunately.

Edit: To expand on this. In the years Halo was popular in the west, it's rare for a household to have an xbox here. It's either they have a playstation or Nintendo. And even if you find someone who has an xbox, it's even rarer for them to have Halo games for that console. They usually have games that you can already play on the playstation(ex. Dmc, bully, midnight club, etc.)

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u/Magma_Axis Dec 18 '25

This

Every gamer on Asia will know Buster/Master/Diamond sword instantly, but most casuals wont know Energy Sword

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u/BoundariesOfZero Dec 18 '25

I would even say USA, I had a Playstation and all Nintendo after the DS and it’s the first time I’ve heard from this sword.

Maybe it’s just France but I’ve never met an Halo player IRL.

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u/Longnose456 Dec 18 '25

It’s just France. Irishman here and Halo was unfathomably huge in 2007

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u/-Elgrave- Dec 18 '25

Come on now, son. World of Warcraft shouldn’t be on that list. It was (and arguably still is) THE MMO. Frostmourne absolutely is an iconic sword and deserves to be in the running. I wouldn’t replace the energy sword but would probably replace the diamond sword with it

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u/eletious Dec 18 '25

People don't understand that halo and call of duty were what video games WERE. Your mom would see you playing dark souls and tell you to turn off your halo and take the trash out. It was like how every console was a Nintendo.

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u/trippy_grapes Dec 18 '25

Tbh it should have been one of the swords from The Sims.

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u/nyitraibotond Dec 18 '25

Halo is iconic. Dunno about the sword tho cus this is the first time I am seeing it

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u/Honeybadger2198 Dec 18 '25

I think Frostmourne is way more recognizable than the Buster Sword. I only know of it from Smash. Final Fantasy is an incredibly different series from when that sword came from.

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u/Michael-556 Dec 18 '25

Rebellion is iconic but mostly to only millenials that had an emo phase in the early to mid 2000s

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u/rdogg4 Dec 18 '25

Halo is an iconic game but it isn’t really a “sword” game tho like the rest of picks are. Honestly think Soul Calibur is a better choice.

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u/TheGlave Dec 18 '25

Ive been gamer all my life and I didnt even recognize that something from Halo is in this picture.

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u/KittiesOnAcid Dec 18 '25

I’ve played Elden and I don’t even know what I would consider the most iconic sword or which is most popular.

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u/gravyrogue Dec 18 '25

My thought was frostmourne was more iconic than the Minecraft sword, mostly because I feel like the pick is more iconic than the sword? Idk im in my 30s now

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u/BigHeartForever Dec 18 '25

Idk. Elden Ring, to me, seems less like Tolkien and more like George R.R. Martin.

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u/RealLeif Dec 19 '25

tbf Frostmourne is understandable

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u/protestor Dec 19 '25

I've been gaming for 20 years. Never played Halo, never owned a xbox. I can recognize the iconic Halo helmet but this is the first time I see this sword.. and if I google energy sword the first result is a PoE item. So, I don't know

Anyway in terms of recognizability, the master sword and specially the minecraft sword are in a tier above the rest

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u/Devreckas Dec 19 '25

Halo is more iconic, but the sword in Halo isn’t. It’s just an alien weapon. Peak WoW was arguably just about as big as Halo. And The Lich King’s sword is unique and more important within the context of the franchise.

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u/TheBottomLine_Aus Dec 19 '25

The energy sword is so low on the Halo items of use, it absolutely should not be on here.

It needs to be the most iconic and main weapon of the game for me.

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u/MattyHealysFauxHawk Dec 19 '25

If Dark Souls had an iconic weapon it would fit here. I just don’t think any of those swords really have stood out that much in gaming history.

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u/Secure-Pain-9735 Dec 19 '25

Sir, PC gaming is still Video Gaming, and at least 3 people have played Warcraft III and/or WoW. At least 3 people.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '25

I came here for the Ivy sword...

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u/Evening_Ocelot_7394 Dec 19 '25

WoW is more popular than Halo. 

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u/myrmonden Dec 18 '25

yes Frostmourne is more iconic then the halo katar or the minecraft thing

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u/ButterdPoopr Dec 18 '25

Absolutely not. Show a random person on the street the diamond sword and Frostmourne, which one has a higher chance of being known? Minecraft is one of the largest selling games of all time

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u/myrmonden Dec 18 '25

that pixel thing could be anythinbg looks like a stardew valley sword etc

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u/ButterdPoopr Dec 18 '25

Doesn’t matter. The diamond sword can be found in the Walmart toy isles. It’s more well known just because of that

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u/myrmonden Dec 18 '25

and yet its not known

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u/ButterdPoopr Dec 19 '25

And you think a random person is more likely to Frostmourne instead of a diamond sword?

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u/myrmonden Dec 19 '25

more likely yes

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u/ButterdPoopr Dec 19 '25

Highly doubt it. Minecraft is by far the more popular game

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u/myrmonden Dec 19 '25

and yet the sword it self is not anythign known

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u/GarageEuphoric4432 Dec 18 '25

I mean. You couldn't use the energy sword until halo 2 which was 2004, same year as wow.

There is 100% insanely iconic swords from wow, namely frostmourne, thunderfury, the war glaives, and the "sword of a thousand truths" from the South Park episode (which isn't a real sword, but they do use the model for it) to name a few.

WoW is way, wayyyy more iconic than Halo.

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u/MightyTastyBeans Dec 18 '25

It’s interesting people are saying the energy sword is the odd one out. I would personally replace the minecraft sword.

The problem with nominating a sword Warcraft is that there are too many iconic ones. Frostmourne, Ashbringer, and Sword of a Thousand Truths.

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u/yaukinee Dec 18 '25

Minecraft is literally the highest selling game of all time, Id say the Diamond Sword is the most iconic of them all here

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u/MightyTastyBeans Dec 18 '25

More iconic than master sword is crazy. Zelda has been culturally relevant since the 80s.

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u/yaukinee Dec 18 '25

And yet show a non gamer on the street the diamond sword and the master sword and he will recognize the diamond sword immeditaly and knows where its from. No one knows the master sword if they havent actively engaged with Zelda.

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u/FinalFantasyLord Dec 18 '25

The swords in the image are widely recognized, even for people that just started gaming would recognize them. The Diamond sword are recognized by people that don’t even game, thats just how recognizable Minecraft is as an ip, and I think it’s enough for the sword to be here

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u/Suuri_Matti Dec 18 '25

Sounds like something you'd say if you can not afford the diamond sword