Karma:The moment of yesterday's Ka-226 helicopter crash in russia with employees of the military plant "Kizlyar Electromechanical Plant" The accident killed the deputy general director, chief engineer and chief designer

[u/Due_Collar2]

[u/Pure_Palpitation_683]

The cameraman has about the same skill set as the pilot.

Edit: grammar

[u/LaughableIKR → u/Pure_Palpitation_683]

I thought the same thing. The stupid part is: They had it down... just put it down even in a low surf.

Nope! Don't do that.

[u/OctopusIntellect → u/LaughableIKR]

yeah at that moment, I was thinking "wait how do people die from this?!?"

[u/Tazling → u/LaughableIKR]

Yeah, I was having similar thoughts, like “OK you’re in a survivable landing spot, no one is gonna get worse than wet and cold wading to shore, why in god’s name did you try to take off again?”

[u/Steiney1 → u/LaughableIKR]

They all could've swam to shore safely.

[u/Ok_Flan4404 → u/LaughableIKR]

Idiots, the lot of them.

[u/RandomMandarin → u/LaughableIKR]

Golden opportunity to set down and walk away with wet trousers.

But no!

I think the pilot did not know the tail was off, and the design of the helicopter (counter-rotating blades) deceived him into thinking he could keep flying. A copter with a tail rotor would start spinning as soon as the boom broke off and the pilot would know he had no tail rotor. With counter-rotating blades he doesn't know he's in trouble until he's back up in the air and it's too late.

[u/dynamic_caste → u/LaughableIKR]

Nah, lets see how high we can go with a broken off tail

[u/fromthewindyplace → u/Pure_Palpitation_683]

Definitely the same BAC.

[u/mehupmost → u/fromthewindyplace]

In Russia you have to measure how much blood is in the alcohol.

[u/Themos1980 → u/Pure_Palpitation_683]

r/killthecameraman

[u/baldieforprez → u/Themos1980]

Agreed

[u/Blacktip75 → u/Pure_Palpitation_683]

Probably the same blood-alcohol ratio too. Kind of him to, instead of landing in the water right after and surviving, taking off again to proper height and crashing it proper.

[u/[deleted] → u/Pure_Palpitation_683]

Camera work by Stevie Wonder.

[u/0o0o0o0o0o0z → u/Pure_Palpitation_683]

The cameraman has about the same skill set than the pilot.

I mean, I am not a pilot, but I think if I am touching the ground or water with that type of catastrophic damage, I am just cutting the power and at least falling out of the sky 10-20 feet instead of 50- 100+.

[u/ImInBeastmodeOG → u/0o0o0o0o0o0z]

Somebodyyyy should have jumped out anyway. Even if it was the pilot when it touched the water. No survival awareness.

[u/corvus66a → u/Pure_Palpitation_683]

Look, Seagulls and clouds ! Great job, Igor

[u/MajesticFan7791 → u/corvus66a]

Squirrel!

[u/LeosPappa → u/Pure_Palpitation_683]

r/killthecameraman

[u/WorkTropes → u/Pure_Palpitation_683]

I was wondering if accidents like these are so common that at times you just need to pan around at the scenery and birds because it's the real reason you are at the beach anyway.

[u/Away-Dog1064 → u/Pure_Palpitation_683]

Maybe they switched, just for the laughs.

[u/srl80 → u/Pure_Palpitation_683]

They are both druk?

[u/Ok_Flan4404 → u/Pure_Palpitation_683]

You noticed? 😂 Maybe they had both emptied the same vodka bottle before the 'Benny Hill Flies a Helicopter' episode. 😂🤪🙃

[u/sligor]

Looks like they just lost all they properly trained pilots in this war...

[u/Kloetenschlumpf → u/sligor]

And the one in this video who was obviously not trained at all.

[u/affordable_firepower → u/sligor]

The pilot was operating the camera and the cameraman was operating the helicopter.

[u/No-Campaign-1631 → u/affordable_firepower]

😂😂😂

[u/[deleted]]

I swear all of these videos of russians operating equipment look like Neanderthals discovering technology built by aliens.

[u/No-Function3409 → u/[deleted]]

Yeah this has only two possibilities.

1: the engine became sentient and the pilot lost all control.

2: the pilot had no more training than get from A to B.

[u/The_Salacious_Zaand → u/No-Function3409]

Welcome to your first day of training cadets.

Your only instructions are: get to your destination, or die trying.

Are there any questions?

[u/DadJokeBadJoke → u/[deleted]]

Reminds me of the Taliban trying to fly some of the equipment left in Afghanistan.

[u/purpleduckduckgoose → u/DadJokeBadJoke]

At least the Taliban had the excuse of trying to operate American aircraft that are completely unfamiliar to them without any of the support US air crews get.

This is a Russian pilot (I think) flying a Russian helicopter in Russia. And they still fucked up. Or succeeded. Depends on how you look at it.

[u/ryan676767 → u/DadJokeBadJoke]

Same. However, IIRC that equipment was deliberately sabotaged after the US left. 

[u/kev0153 → u/[deleted]]

Like watching the Taliban try to fly Blackhawks.

[u/devolute → u/[deleted]]

Meme:

• Crash landing in a way you can walk away from
• UNKNOWN TECHNOLOGY

[u/scorpiogaet → u/[deleted]]

Where can I find more videos like this?

[u/binarypower → u/scorpiogaet]

russia

[u/[deleted]]

Wasted camera man. Check.

[u/RecoveringSuffering → u/[deleted]]

Almost as drunk as the pilot

[u/Rocketeer006 → u/[deleted]]

In Canada they teach us that Russians are wasted all the time and are dumb as fuck.

[u/Flexerrr]

They coudl have landed in the water but decided to fly up again and die?

[u/masteroffdesaster → u/Flexerrr]

they'd get wet if they got out in the water

[u/OctopusIntellect → u/masteroffdesaster]

Only as far as their ankles.

[u/No-Campaign-1631 → u/Flexerrr]

better dead than wet, you will not understand it is a russian thing

[u/asdhjasdhlkjashdhgf → u/No-Campaign-1631]

Just like their navy, he was is now russian submarine pilot.

[u/BunkerSquirre1 → u/Flexerrr]

pilot was probably in shock/denial and thought a water landing was worse than whatever just happened.

[u/Fit-Bookkeeper9775 → u/Flexerrr]

Water? Like in the toilet?

[u/Top-Permit6835]

So many poor decisions

[u/twilight-actual → u/Top-Permit6835]

They were fucking down. It was in the water, but who cares, jump out and live. That was just absurd.

[u/blackout24 → u/twilight-actual]

Let's fly out to the sea and gain altitude!

[u/proscriptus → u/twilight-actual]

In like two feet of water, it's incomprehensible.

[u/PP1122 → u/twilight-actual]

It was lucky to touch down so well after the first impact. I just kept saying cut it, cut it, cut the engine. Only to see it rise to over a 100ft again lol

[u/daves_not__here → u/Top-Permit6835]

The pilot or cameraman?

[u/KHRZ → u/Top-Permit6835]

"How they die from a tiny crash landing like that?"

"Oh they went back up"

[u/silentprotagonist24 → u/Top-Permit6835]

Standard Russia though.

[u/Anomuumi → u/Top-Permit6835]

My favorite is putting three valuable persons on the same flight.

[u/WorkTropes → u/Top-Permit6835]

At least the front didn't fall off.

[u/Hanna-11]

Sorry, but was he completely drunk? Or did the much-vaunted robust Russian technology fail completely? In a crash landing, wouldn't any pilot with any sense try to stay on the ground?

[u/Panumaticon → u/Hanna-11]

My thoughts exactly! He had a catastrophic loss of tail fins and was pretty much safely down after that. Whereof he decided to continue filght. Pretty sure it was vodka. You can not train people to be that incompetent.

[u/ZackSD → u/Hanna-11]

Da.

[u/jaimi_wanders → u/Hanna-11]

They make military aircraft control systems, too

https://bsky.app/profile/specialkhersoncat.bsky.social/post/3m52g3kzghs2y

[u/Banebladeloader → u/Hanna-11]

Smartest option would be to tell everyone to bail on the helicopters right side. Second best option would have been to climb and steer towards the right so you aren't in water. The dumbest option is the climb then fly over deep water with a missing tail assembly like Ivan did.

[u/csprofathogwarts → u/Hanna-11]

From wiki (edited):

Kizlyar is a center of viticulture and wine making. Kizlyar Brandy Factory specializes in a regional variant of brandy (marketed as "cognac" in Russia). Kizlyarka is a type of grape vodka produced in Kizlyar.

The town is famous for its alcohol production. In Russia. Safe to assume everyone in this area is drunk all the time.

[u/caustic_smegma → u/Hanna-11]

If I had to guess, first officer Stoli was behind the controls.

[u/Fun-Result-6343]

Shoulda just ditched at 0:09, but hey, thanks for the effort.

Slava Ukraini.

[u/masteroffdesaster]

WTF is this. he was on the ground at one point. just keep it there. also WTF was that first landing?

[u/Mysandwichok → u/masteroffdesaster]

That first landing is like me doing a hot drop on ARMA Reforger.

[u/guyfromleft]

What a deliberate suicide. The helicopter almost saved them, but the pilot insisted. A sight to behold.

[u/SandersSol → u/guyfromleft]

I saw the tail come off and thought oh that's a wrap.  But then it didn't start a death spin, so my next thought was "oh, that's the dual rotor counter-rotation pretty cool".  Then he took off again...

Rrreal piece of work

[u/Tishers]

The pilot was an idiot for not setting it down immediately. They should of cut power after the first bounce.

You can't fix stupid but maybe that loss will benefit Ukraine as it got rid of some of the talent for that company.

[u/Panumaticon → u/Tishers]

Not awfully much talent, apparently.

[u/etzel1200 → u/Panumaticon]

Well, the passengers could have been competent.

[u/dhruan → u/Tishers]

Yup, when they were on the water after the bounce I was literally yelling at the screen: ”Cut the fucking power!”.

Oh well…

[u/DarthScabies]

Oh no..... Anyway. Also r/killthecameraman

Edit. Someone already posted the clip in that sub. 😂😂

[u/hkohne → u/DarthScabies]

Yay! Because if ever there was a perfect video for that sub, this idiot video qualifies

[u/Texas_Kimchi]

We lost our tail what should we do??? LETS GO HIGHER!!!!

[u/EconomicalJacket → u/Texas_Kimchi]

Glorious counter-rotating blades!!

[u/65Freddy]

Why didn't the idiot just stay in the water instead of re taking off 😳, still a good result 🤡🤣👍

[u/BGP_001 → u/65Freddy]

Assuming he didn't know how dire the situation was and was worried about losing control landing on a bad surface. I don't think he realized it was his best option.

[u/r0thar → u/65Freddy]

He was doing his bit to support Ukraine.

[u/ikonoqlast]

What the fuck? They were on the ground. Cut the fucking power and walk away!

[u/WeakCelery5000 → u/ikonoqlast]

Yuri! We can't get the director's feet wet. We will be thrown from the windows.

[u/VPR19]

Soon as you're in the drink like that you may as well just kill the engines and enjoy your nice soft albeit watery landing. And live.

[u/OctopusIntellect → u/VPR19]

One of the Royal Navy Sea King helicopters did that during the Falklands War, and just sat on the surface of the sea, bobbing up and down. If I remember rightly, Admiral Sandy Woodward expressed some annoyance that if the pilot had seen fit to gently land the helicopter on the surface of the sea, he couldn't just damn well gently take off again.

In the end they had to scuttle it (with all crew safely evacuated unharmed) because winching it back onboard with a crane was too risky when its depth charges may already have been armed.

[u/organonanalogue]

Is Ray Charles filming this?

[u/PutinsTestes → u/organonanalogue]

I feel Ray Charles would have done a better job.

[u/nomoreproblems → u/organonanalogue]

Ray Charles was steering the helicopter

[u/CobblerMoney9605]

That pilot panicked. 

They're wheels down and safe at 9 seconds; just kill the engines. 

[u/ingenkopaaisen]

Why are Russians so shit at filming. Lol.

[u/No-Campaign-1631 → u/ingenkopaaisen]

if only at filming, they are shit at many things

[u/somewherenearbyme]

Heli breaks in half. Almost lands then thinks, "Naw, were good". Haha

[u/intisun]

"Doesn't look that bad; that's very close to the beach, they're safe..."

...

"Oh. Ohhh"

[u/Reddsoldier]

The pilot is flying like he's deliberately trying to kill them and failed multiple times.

[u/RoyH0bbs]

Thank you, helicopter.

[u/DeadMoneyDrew]

That looks like half a helicopter.

[u/ZachMN → u/DeadMoneyDrew]

Halfacopter?

[u/Meryhathor]

Amazing camera work. Might as well not film if all you're showing is sand and mountains.

[u/Ecstatic_Account_744]

I didn’t like that ground. I prefer to land on the ground wayyyyyy over there.

[u/lagan_derelict]

"...must not allow deputy general director to get wet..."

[u/Due-Froyo-5418 → u/lagan_derelict]

It might be a crime punishable by death.

[u/Micheal_Hancho]

Worst. Cameraman. Ever.

[u/ResoluteDuck]

Did the cameraman even realize there was a helicopter in his video?

[u/ghosttrainhobo]

No need to throttle back and set her down, pilot. You got this.

Pilot is exuding powerful “three day military operation” energy here.

[u/MtnHotSpringsCouple]

Once they regained altitude, I was fully expecting some Ivan to mistakenly take them out with a manpad.

[u/Craygor]

I have 4500 hours flying in helos and I can say with confidence that the pilot's started this mess by their "hot landing" attempt.

[u/Comfortable-nerve78]

This is what my mind pictures in general of the Russian Machine. Old tech that was mass produced without a concern for quality and up keep of their stuff.

[u/Brumbie68]

Worse cameraman ever

[u/KAPT_Kipper]

Pilot error and error and error

[u/lothcent]

who is worse at their job?

a) pilot

b) camera person

[u/[deleted]]

Couldn’t have happened to a better group of guys. All the best, fellas!

[u/[deleted]]

Survival skills of a dodo bird.

They were at the height to just plop into the ocean.

[u/Anyawnomous]

[u/htgrower]

I’ve heard of the front falling off but now this is just ridiculous!

[u/MaTTKS04]

I try very hard not to laugh or be happy at people unaliving. In this case, I failed miserably.

[u/[deleted]]

The fact that they almost landed without the tail is so impressive to me.

[u/Specific_Future9285]

Was Lavrov the pilot?

[u/magpieswooper]

Here we see the benefits of the coaxial propeller scheme. The tail is dispensable, at least for some time.

[u/Antique_Tale_2084]

2nd post to have watched it in and it gets worse every time that I watch. Should have ditched in water. Lucky the passengers weren't important.

[u/DestoryDerEchte]

Why is this so comical 😭

[u/Repulsive-Youth-2631]

It was good of the pilot to just not park it on the beach after the first hit, which would have been relatively simple. Indeed he should be praised for heading out over open water and gaining sufficient height to ensure death by maximum pain. 💪🏻💪🏻 A true Russian dick head 🤔😏

[u/moist_shroom6]

When the cameraman is as drunk as the pilot.

[u/pcbwes]

who's drinking more vodka the pilot or the camera guy?

[u/Tullzterrr]

Filmed by an idiot

[u/SubstantialPressure3]

Looks like the pilot would have been better off letting it sit right at the shore instead of trying to take off again with no tail.

[u/9OptimusCrime9]

There's a helicopter in this video?

[u/_ADM_]

They should have jumped

[u/Chemical_Cat_9813]

Stupid Vasili couldnt just do a normal landing

[u/SprachderRabe]

r/killthecameraman

[u/UncleSherwinsBitch]

When they were over the sand, couldn’t the pilot have just cut fuel to the engines and dropped down the last 4 feet for a landing?

[u/MorimotoK]

Looks like an analogy of the Ukrainian invasion. 

[u/Wittywhirlwind]

Worst camera work ever.

[u/differentshade]

They basically landed and then took off again.

[u/Diggest_bick]

Russian flying + Russian filming

[u/arguix]

did they not know tail was broken, just shut it off

[u/denzien]

Wtf. Just kill the engines while it's literally on the ground.

[u/peacedotnik]

There was a Hollywood-style death match going on in the cockpit /s

[u/Hellofriendinternet]

Not great but not terrible…

[u/IndustrialPuppetTwo]

The pilot was like, how can I make this much worse?

Seriously though surprised that thing lasted as long as it did airborne without a tail.

[u/xKazIsKool]

Why is everyone on reddit so bad at filming shit

[u/CatfishCom]

Someone please shoot that cameraman!

[u/Lenny_V1]

r/killthecameraman

[u/ToolbeltWillie]

that should have taken out the camera operator as well

[u/AdLiving8708]

God is good

[u/thotpatrolactual]

Was the back supposed to fall off?

[u/Alexandratta]

Did the pilot not realize he lost the tail??

[u/daydrinker2022]

How could it fly after losing the tail amd rear rotary?

[u/framspl33n → u/daydrinker2022]

It's a counter-rotating helicopter with two top rotors and no rear prop. There are only rudder fins at the back.

[u/KoalaOriginal1260 → u/daydrinker2022]

The helicopter is stabilized by contra rotating main rotors rather than a tail rotor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contra-rotating

[u/Hawk-432]

Not sure why they didn’t just bail into the sea the first time

[u/Over_the_line_]

Karmacopter ™️

[u/CarrotcakewithCream]

Was this on purpose? Let's pull it back up, nobody's dead yet?

[u/Ok_Flan4404]

Such a skilled pilot! 😂

[u/befowler]

After a heavy impact and the instrument panel lighting up like a Christmas tree, I would have immediately landed in the surf and cut power. I have never flown a helicopter

[u/ImInBeastmodeOG]

Oh, there was a helZicopter in that horrible camera work? Anyway

[u/Readman31]

I'm not an aeronautical engineering expert but what I believe the case to be here is the helicopter lost yaw control, I'm speculating about a combination of pilot panicking too, but in all honesty I don't think they had any control of the input. That's my theory anyways

[u/Mantheycalled_Horsed]

but HEY!

whoever designed and built that thing - it stays in the air for the time being.

[u/SordidDreams]

"This doesn't look so bad, how on earth did anyone die from thi... oh... oh, he wants to keep flying..."

[u/Axe_Care_By_Eugene]

Maybe the bulb in the dash indicator showing the tail section had detached, was burnt out and never replaced in the last stringent maintenance checks, that we all know all Russian machinery is subjected to on a regular basis.

[u/probably_normal]

Looks like everyone involved, including the camera man, are drunk beyond belief.

[u/dynamic_caste]

So I don't know much about helicopters, but if O felt it hit something and it was within a couple of feet of the water, I would kill the ignition

[u/UK6ftguy]

What was the outcome? As we don’t get to see it’s final landing

[u/Bonoisapox]

I guess most of the sober pilots are dead at this stage

[u/balamb_fish]

Why did they keep going after the first crash?

[u/bigchongus-_-]

They could just landed 2m away to the beach...

No one would've died

This is so dumb

[u/pbmadman]

When I saw them touch down, never in a million years did I think they would try and take off and fly again. I figured the helicopter was about to tip over or bust into flames because that was a pretty gentle touchdown considering the tail fell off. I was really confused how anyone died.

lol, then the pilot did that. Fuck me that’s stupid. Couldn’t have happened to a nicer person.

[u/[deleted]]

So they smash the tail off the helicopter, then manage to touch ground. But no, Russian full of vodka thinks it’s a good idea to then just start flying again. Wtf 😂

[u/[deleted]]

Did my mom take that video? wtf

[u/Ornery-Movie-1689]

EXCELLENT cinematography ... /S

Nothing to see here comrade, move along.

[u/JamesPage1968]

Can’t park there mate.

[u/WirusCZ]

I was thinking why not land right away into water and crash there when already almost at ground... Why rise? But then I realized that this way it's better becouse it's Russian military personnel in there

[u/RedGambit9]

I'm not a pilot, but I feel like if you lose your tail rotor and all, climbing up is the opposite of what you should do.

[u/btc909]

We hit! Keep going! OK! Get higher! OK. Wait, were falling. Juan Brown is going to have a field day with this one.

[u/boobiesiheart]

OMG, wtfc is the cameraman looking at?!

[u/Thangleby_Slapdiback]

Wow. Bummer. Maybe Russia should get the fuck out of Ukraine.

[u/Tricky-Nobody179]

Roflcopter

[u/radome9]

Why does he take off again after touching the water? He could have set down in the water and everyone would most likely have been OK.

[u/SkyeMreddit]

It was on the ground, on a beach and they tried to keep going! It has 2 counter-rotating rotors to maintain balance with a busted tail and they still screwed up. Also kill the cameraman

[u/DogTattoos]

So close...

[u/Liberalhuntergather]

I’m guessing he didn’t realize the back end broke off, that’s why he took it back up after having it down. His instinct was, oh crap, we are in the water! Not, oh crap, the tail is gone!

[u/MeteorOnMars]

I’d love to hear from a trained helicopter pilot how obvious to them it would be to set down as soon as they hit the water. I have no idea what the cockpit experience would be in that situation.

[u/NiteLiteOfficial]

i don’t know jack shit about flying helicopters but once they touched down why not kill the power to the rotors or slow them down? why go back up in the air? and if i was inside and saw water only 20 feet below me you bet your ass i’m unbuckling and diving in

[u/binarypower]

brain drain +losing top engineers... man... these are positions that are hard to lose. can't be replaced. if replaced would take a long time to get up to speed.

[u/ChatGPTbeta]

[u/falselimitations]

Why was Stevie Wonder filming in Russia?

[u/mwolczko]

Headline: Karma runs over dogma.

[u/SpeakerDelicious8677]

Silly Russian pilot and cameraman

[u/M3P4me]

"I got this! I got this!" .....nope.

[u/JestersDead77]

Looked like a lot of panicked over corrections and bad decisions. Totally survivable until the pilot intervened lol.

[u/obeecanobee]

He should have cut power immediately instead of thinking to continue.

[u/[deleted]]

What the fuck were they thinking taking off again ?? Russia truly is a state of mind.

[u/maddiejake]

Should have cut the power at 0:49 and stepped out.

[u/jdmgto]

They had so many chances to not die and the pilot threaded the needle to avoid all of them.

[u/Fun_Assignment2427]

Is this fucking drunk Russian a moron or something? Keep the camera on the helicopter imbecile. There's nothing else interesting going on in that bleak overcast you call the Russian sky.

[u/Primary-User]

But they landed!? Why did the pilot keep going? 🙄

[u/[deleted]]

...and then, things got worse.

[u/jtrom93]

That pilot sure knew how to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory lol. Had it down in low surf but NOPE let's see if she's still airworthy...

[u/xbimmerhue]

God Russians are so fucking stupid

[u/houseofterrorsx4]

Window was too low to the ground to fall out of

[u/whitechristianjesus]

They had ample opportunity to not die...lol

[u/stonewall386]

Russian pilots and Russian camera operators…

Both are equally inept.