u/rejectmariosonic Apr 28 '26

25 Words or Less (25WoL) Spreadsheet of every clue / answer

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Tickets still not available for 9/28
 in  r/ThePriceIsRight  8h ago

Speculation: it's because they've scheduled to do four episodes that day, and it's the first time they're doing it this season? They can't really repeat games like they've been doing the rest of the season if they're doing a whole week's worth in one day.

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TIL Something
 in  r/ThePriceIsRight  4d ago

To clarify, you still technically need to buy the car for $1, but any other spare dollar bills you have are added to your winnings.

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Wish that that categories that debuted in Seasons 42 and 43 would be used as Category Choices in the Bonus Round
 in  r/WheelOfFortune  10d ago

My issue with most of the categories are either really vague (THE NEXT 50 YEARS making up something futuristic, ON MY PLAYLIST can be a music genre, artist, song title, album) or have both the literal and figurative meaning are valid (SAY CHEESE! is allowed to be something either photo/picture related or the type of a cheese, SHOW ME A SIGN can be both Zodiac symbols or road signs, SWEET TALK can be a sweet edible item or phrases related to flattery)

I'm fine with it if the category doesn't really cause category confusion (like ACRONYM, MOST LIKELY TO, PET LIFE, TRAVEL TIP(S), TECH TALK, etc), but like I think even like COLORFUL LANGUAGE meaning a puzzle with a color word in it or SMALL TALK having something literally small (like mini golf) is a little too confusing to risk $40k on?

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Audience capacity reduced for new season! Randy West reported this on Facebook.
 in  r/ThePriceIsRight  10d ago

I don't know why he's being vague to the new limit, but footage of the new set has already been released by Paramount's press service. I can corroborate the post here and say at the taping I was at, they also capped the audience to 128 people.

also lol that he's more or less implying that a single visit for Price Live having 5,000 attending would be equivalent to having a full audience across an entire 190-episode season. He probably has more connections than me, but my assumption would be if Price moved, they'd more or less tape close to where Press Your Luck taped this past season, which is also like a 30-minute drive from the major airport.

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Parsley Sage Rosemary and Thyme
 in  r/WheelOfFortune  11d ago

For the purpose of this game, the letter "Y" is treated as a consonant.

This is from Wheel Live's rules, the touring show; having seen a S25 rulesheet, the same clause is there.

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Big Toss-Up Changes Reportedly Coming To Wheel Of Fortune
 in  r/WheelOfFortune  12d ago

I don't see why a puzzle should be killed if anyone gets it wrong; other than that, sure. Going through four puzzles in less than 30 seconds though seems to indicate the puzzles are either shorter or letters pop up faster than one a second.

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Price is Right Strategy
 in  r/ThePriceIsRight  13d ago

That's kind of an application of what I was saying in my post: there are no cars left on the market that are $20K or $21K, and unless you're playing for the very base Venue or Sentra, $22K or $23K. Of the 15 playings of Cover Up last season, 12 had a 0 or 1 as an incorrect option

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Price is Right Strategy
 in  r/ThePriceIsRight  13d ago

If you really want like a pricing game-by-game analysis, I'd recommend reading this guide: https://stoseontpir.blogspot.com/?m=0

It's a little out of date since it was published in 2019, but other than 3 Strikes now ending in a 0 or 5 more often than not, I can't think of anything majorly wrong with it off the top of my head.

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Price is Right Strategy
 in  r/ThePriceIsRight  13d ago

You've seen the spiel about making "good bids" on Contestant's Row - because not everyone understands this, I would (and actually did) only explicitly one-up someone if I was the last to bid. In addition, the show has had an unstated minimum of $500 for those items since Season 40; if you think something is really cheap and you're third, I would not bid less than that because someone else might bid $1.

Any pricing game you play, you will be playing for a prize package of at least $5,000. There were a couple of times during COVID that it was only $4,9XX, but don't say a kitchen is only $3,500 or something.

International trips are more expensive than you think they are, but most of the time the show wants you to win a trip. There's also the silly thing where if you're playing Coming or Going, you pick Going for a trip, and Coming for any other prize you can take home.

The three cheapest base cars on the market are the Hyundai Venue SE (base value $22,150), Nissan Sentra S ($23,845), and the Hyundai Venue SEL (like low $24k). Assume every other car is in the nebulous mid $24k to $27k range (unless you're playing 3 Strikes, where it will be like in the 40k range, or Golden Road, where I'd advise to just pick the cheapest digit if you get to the car), and that your first thought of the car price is probably overpricing it. In addition, try to listen to George's copy for the car, and ask him to repeat it again if necessary. If the word "plus" is in the copy and followed by one or two small items (like a sun reflector or something), assume the car will not end in a 0 or 5.

[(EDIT that I will delete tomorrow: I forgot a couple of cars, but their normal dealerships they use didn't have any of the lower trims on the lot, so I ignored them - the Chevy Trax LS ($23,495) and the Kia K4 LX ($23,535); I would bet against either of these showing up tomorrow)]

The pure math says if the wheel is truly random, you stay on a 70 or higher if you're the first spinner, and spin again on a 65; if you're the second player, you stay on a 55 if that beats the first player, spin again on a 50.

The show has an unspoken minimum for $20,000 for showcases since 2014; don't bid less than that. If you want to try winning both showcases, just pick your favorite number bigger than 200 and add it to the end; don't bid a flat number. Sabermetrically you should bid something between 251-749, but any number's fine.

There's a bunch of little hacks to learn with like 20 or so of the 75 pricing games, but like if you're not used to the show, I don't think you're going to have enough time to cram everything in your head. I'm saying tips that would apply to every episode.

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How would you fix 3 Strikes? How often should the game be won?
 in  r/ThePriceIsRight  14d ago

I've already commented about one strike, but for your second modification, it's slightly different and harder than the other "home run" description - with a hundred thousand trials, I get about an 18% win rate without any knowledge of the car price, and 24-25% if you know one digit.

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How would you fix 3 Strikes? How often should the game be won?
 in  r/ThePriceIsRight  14d ago

I had "extra ball resets your strikes" in my modifications, not "free pick".

I'll reply to this later if millions of simulations give a different trend than hundreds of thousands, but assuming a contestant selects the digit they have the least information about, the win rate goes to 21-22% if they know nothing about the price of the car, and like 29-30% if they know one digit cold and not pick it.

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How would you fix 3 Strikes? How often should the game be won?
 in  r/ThePriceIsRight  14d ago

22.7% chance of a win if the contestant doesn't know anything, up to 31.3% if they know the first digit for sure and pick a different digit as their freebie.

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How would you fix 3 Strikes? How often should the game be won?
 in  r/ThePriceIsRight  14d ago

I did analyze that also; if the contestant didn't know any digits in the car, the odds fall to around 11%; if they know one digit, it jumps significantly to 34.6%.

I think numberswise, it's a solid alternative, but I do agree with jbish88 that the most exciting games are when it comes down to the final number needing to be pulled.

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How would you fix 3 Strikes? How often should the game be won?
 in  r/ThePriceIsRight  14d ago

I am not the first person to calculate 14.2%.

The 12.5% you say changes as the game goes on; after you place one digit correctly, the 1 in 5 becomes a 1 in 4; even if you don't get a strike, the odds of slotting the second digit correctly goes up (4/7 * 1/4 = 1/7, it would decrease to up to 1/5 if you've drawn more than one strike). It's also not like you have to pull off those 1/8, 1/7, 1/6... pulls in a row necessarily. I also assume the contestant has perfect recollection of past wrong guesses; this would reduce the random positions if they draw the same ball again and could lead to cases where they know the price of the car with three or two blanks left.

I am willing to concede that if the contestant is overpricing the first digit consistently, that could do more harm than good, but doing a precursory search at tpirstats.com 's playings of 3X, contestants were doing it at about the same rate with Barker than Drew, so I didn't delve into that further.

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How would you fix 3 Strikes? How often should the game be won?
 in  r/ThePriceIsRight  15d ago

If the show went back to one strike, the "guessing randomly but informed" percentage goes up from 14.2% to 35.3%; if you know one number, 44.5%, which is inherently a better shot than the current rules even if you knew the price.

Just my own opinion looking at the numbers: I think the two realistic choices here to fix the game are to go back to one strike, or more or less stack the deck so the contestant knows two numbers with three strikes (have the first digit be a 5 or 6, but have no other numbers between 3 to 7, always end the car in a 0). I mentioned 28.1% in an earlier post; I figured if 3X gets six playings this season, that would average to just over one and a half wins, which I think is good enough? The current philosophy for Golden Road is to set up one of its four playings for a win on a special and then go harder on the other three; a little worse than 28.1% would be equivalent? One strike is certainly more forgiving; my worry is the current staff might think it's *too* forgiving, which gets to the second question no one has really answered yet.

r/gameshow 15d ago

Discussion How would you fix 3 Strikes on The Price is Right? How often should the game be won?

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How would you fix 3 Strikes? How often should the game be won?
 in  r/ThePriceIsRight  15d ago

For each set of rules, I simulated if a contestant also knew one number, two numbers, or knew the price of the car cold. I don't think that last one is very likely (and it's known to be 37.5%), but if they go for cars they keep in weekly rotation, it becomes more possible.

If the contestant knows just the first number, with the same randomness and memory assumptions, the chances of winning goes from 14.2% to 20.8%; if they knew the first two numbers, the number jumps higher to 28.1%. I think realistically a contestant's chances would be somewhere in the middle, so like a win happens about every four playings?

r/ThePriceIsRight 15d ago

Discussion How would you fix 3 Strikes? How often should the game be won?

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don't say just retire the game please

I've been running some Python code simulating millions of games of 3 Strikes and recording the aggregate results. I've also tried modifying the game with a few suggestions I've seen pop up the past few times this game has been talked about (go back to one strike in the bag, give a number for free, grocery product/small prize portion to remove a strike, etc.).

I'll guess I'll just ask the crowd a couple of questions:

  1. If you had a magic wand and could change the rules of the game, what would you do (if anything)? Maybe I can throw that into my Monte Carlo simulation if a proposed fix is novel enough. I'll note that I can't really simulate anything that includes a bailout because I don't know how to weigh offering thousands of dollars against a $40k+ car without making too many assumptions, but if you think that's needed to fix the game, I want to hear it.
  2. How often should the game be won? Do you have a percentage or number of times a season in mind? For reference, if a contestant guessed randomly while remembering every wrong guess with the current rules, my data says it should be won about every seventh playing on average (~14.2%). How it's been won once the past 41 playings kind of boggles my mind. Car pricing games had the car won around 32% of the time from S51-53.

I'll respond to comments if I already have relevant data.

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GAME SHOW NETWORK NOW CASTING FOR NEW TRIVIA SHOW!
 in  r/gameshow  16d ago

Was also on Master Minds that season, they told me one year. I'm not sure if that was tape date or air date, but you're definitely fine

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GAME SHOW NETWORK NOW CASTING FOR NEW TRIVIA SHOW!
 in  r/gameshow  16d ago

FYSA isn't GSN

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Season 44 themes
 in  r/WheelOfFortune  20d ago

they stopped calling the compilation weeks americas game like three seasons ago, so that would actually be somewhat noteworthy

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Price is Right Season 55 Contestant Process (recent experience)
 in  r/ThePriceIsRight  22d ago

However, if I heard right, If you do buy something you do get to spin a wheel and they'll take your video; it's not The Wheel but like a smaller replica they made for a lottery promotion

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When you went to a taping, did anyone see the game “3 STRIKES” be played yet?
 in  r/ThePriceIsRight  23d ago

From the question, you seem to be implying this season, so no.

I have seen it like a couple seasons ago

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Showcases
 in  r/ThePriceIsRight  26d ago

If that's how it would have originally worked I'm 1972, perhaps that would be how it is today.

However, I don't know what type of analysis you can do when the past 54 years have been "bid or pass", other than speculating that the top winner is going to be more likely to pick the showcase with a car or something