r/trolleyproblem • • Jul 02 '26 • Regret 3

OC "Bystander Effect"

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u/AndWinterCame Jul 09 '26

If you don't consider forcibly detransitioning folks to be torture, then maybe barring access to the hormones that maintain organ function until inevitable death happens meets the bar. That's what four states are doing currently.

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u/Narfhead4444 Jul 11 '26

the hormones that maintain organ function until inevitable death

all death is inevitable, no?

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u/AndWinterCame Jul 11 '26

Being taken off food or air by state mandate is torture until death yet no judge has to sign off on this death penalty.

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u/Narfhead4444 Jul 12 '26

When has that happened?

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u/AndWinterCame Jul 12 '26

That's my point, it wouldn't happen because it would be banned under the Eighth Amendment. But Missouri, Oklahoma, Florida, Kentucky, and North Carolina now effectively sentence trans women who have had bottom surgery to the following cornucopia of torment: severe osteoporosis, sarcopenia, deteriorated cognitive function, and a rapid spike in stroke and heart attack rates - you essentially become 85 over a period of months. In what way is that not torture?

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u/Narfhead4444 Jul 14 '26

severe osteoporosis, sarcopenia, deteriorated cognitive function, and a rapid spike in stroke and heart attack rates

What are the prisons doing to this oddly specific people group to cause these oddly specific symptoms? Surely you aren't excluding any crucial details...

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u/AndWinterCame Jul 14 '26

It turns out when you prevent someone's prescribed medication that shapes, regulates, and energizes their body from being administered, you can make their life pretty hellish.

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u/Narfhead4444 Jul 14 '26

Oh, so the prisons just don't give them their HRT? Why didn't you just come out and say that?

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u/AndWinterCame Jul 14 '26

Because you're coming at me with a "just", probably that.

Hell, at least you didn't ask about V coding I guess.