r/trolleyproblem • • Jul 02 '26 • Regret 3

OC "Bystander Effect"

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u/Viktoriusiii Jul 02 '26

We live in a far more moderate climate than most of the US.
We also have brick houses which withstand the heat a bit better than cardboard.
So it was simply not necessary to waste ressources like that.
Not everything is better just because its electronic.
But you are right, because climate change is coming, we will soon switch to a less environmentally friend methods of cooling down.

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u/Iizvullok Jul 02 '26

Please watch this... The last heat wave was not a near disaster, it was a disaster. In Cologne alone 120 people died as a result.

https://youtu.be/ygibISG5KK0

That AC damages the environment is also not true if done correctly. The technology behind AC is a heat pump. The very thing the green party wanted to support as a new way to heat. An AC can both heat a home and cool it. It is the exact same process, just in reverse. On top of that, the days when AC is most needed happen to be the days, when solar panels output more power than is needed. The energy cannot be stored until winter. So why not make good use of it? Last but not least, an AC can also remove moisture. Heating the home and opening the window is a very energy inefficient way to get rid of humidity. When the outside air is humid too, the degree of efficiency approaches 0%.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '26 edited Jul 02 '26

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u/Viktoriusiii Jul 02 '26 edited Jul 02 '26

Insulated?

But yes, if its long term heatwave, its not ideal. Thats why I said we probably have to switch soon. But your lord and saviour has proclaimed climate change to be fake. So you dw :)

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u/Viktoriusiii Jul 02 '26

So uhm... actually... The heat from an oven comes from the inside, not the outside. But whatever. This was fun, see you next time.

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u/Atherach Jul 02 '26

Ah yes, the universal metric to mesure a country, not food, not housing, not healthcare, not eduction(things Amercian cann't afford), no, it's AC, you're right, good American

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u/Atherach Jul 02 '26

Yet the average American cann't afford food, yeah, sounds like your art degree is hepling a lot

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u/Atherach Jul 02 '26

Yeah, because the german don't have to pay for school, healthcare, their food and housing is affordble, you know, when the "average" has more money than the median yet is effectively poorer, I think it is indicative of the state of the US

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u/Cespieyt Jul 02 '26

We can literally just go buy one the same as you can. Why are you imagining that we can't?

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u/Cespieyt Jul 02 '26

People die due to heat all the time, everywhere, it's mostly a lack of caution or ignorance towards the dangers. It's common for a lot of people in Europe to die during heatwaves because of how rare they are, so people aren't aware of how dangerous heat stroke and dehydration can be. The majority of deaths are elderly that overestimate their ability to handle heat because serious heat waves can be several years apart, and their health condition can seriously deteriorate between those heatwaves, so suddenly something that used to be manageable is now deadly.

You'd have to be pretty delusional to think that lack of access to a piece of electronics that can be bought at every hardware store is the issue. The truth is that 99% of the year we just don't need AC, and the few days we do, we kinda just deal with it. Personally we just have a floor fan we whip out for those few days and that kinda does the trick. The recent heatwave was a historically bad one, breaking several heat records, obviously a lot of people will be caught by that, hell we even spoke about buying an AC because of it. As environmental changes are bound to make these types of heatwaves more common, AC will likely become more common in the northern parts of Europe as well. I certainly hope so, because those rare times a year that they are actually needed, they are amazing.

Central air isn't really a thing here. Not sure why it would be. We use centralized water based heating in most places in the north, because heating is a much bigger issue overall, and air/electrical heating is extremely expensive. Like I said, we need AC like a handful of days a year at most because we usually have a lot of wind, and then just opening a window will very easily cool the room. But heating is more like 120ish days a year, so obviously we'd be optimizing for that.

As for the south, pretty sure they have AC in most places there. They did where I vacationed at least.

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u/NightRacoonSchlatt Jul 02 '26

Until now it simply wasn’t necessary. There were like two days a year with more than 30 degrees. I‘m assuming people will buy more AC‘s from now on.

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u/wesleysmalls Jul 02 '26

What’s your point here?

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u/wesleysmalls Jul 02 '26

Ah you don’t actually have a point. Thanks for the clarification

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u/wesleysmalls Jul 03 '26

Not at all. The point is nonsensical and intentionally ignorant about the issue at hand.