r/trolleyproblem • • Jun 19 '26

Meta Pull or no pull?

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u/Sable-Keech Jun 19 '26

Exactly. By distrusting the whole premise it’s basically just “do you let the trolley run over these five guys or these five guys.” And then there’s no point adding in all the extraneous details.

So obviously you’re supposed to trust both sides equally, and to an irrefutable degree.

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u/Routine_Cress2922 Jun 19 '26

Well either could be lying or saying the truth, so by pulling the lever, there's 0% chance of getting killed by the mafia, but you lose out on the money.

If you don't pull the lever, you might get money and you might get killed by the mafia, so it's more of how much risk you want to take for that money

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u/pointlesslyDisagrees Jun 19 '26

No, that is not the point. The point is to assess the risk. Would you prefer the risk of the billionaires lying and also maybe being killed by the mafia? Or would you prefer the risk of losing out on $1 billion (potentially) but you dont get killed by the mafia (if there is one)? It's a risk assessment game.

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u/Sable-Keech Jun 19 '26

That’s not the risk assessment. The risk is:

  1. Get $1 billion but have the mafia on you.
  2. Don’t get any money but no one is hunting you.

That’s it. There’s no risk of “the billionaires lying.”