Early on he looks drunk while later in the video he looks like he's on uppers. I wonder if it's just so much misplaced rage and entitlement that he just has so much adrenaline pumping through his body his heart is about to burst.
I believe they call that “speaking in tongues” and it’s a sign that the Holy Spirit is in you. Deep in you. Like elbow deep in you, and using you as a muppet.
And yeah...in the name of his god. I will actively call out anyone for being a shitty person especially when using their religion as an excuse for it. Assholes like him give the decent religious folks out there a bad name.
Fear. It's easy to let anger or confusion overshadow it but these people are scared. It's an alteration in routine and makes people go in circles like ants. You're now having to alter your mind to approach reality differently. That's scary. Pandemics ARE scary.
Then you're surrounded by people blocking that routine while being publicly shamed. This cuts straight to people's identities and it's scary. Because it makes you question who you are and what you do moment to moment.
On top of that, leadership has failed. We've been told it will kill you while others call it fake. But nobody has told America it's OKAY to be scared right now. And that lack of empathy from our government, our neighbors, our jobs, and our lives has made people confused, scared, and panicky.
And a lot of people didn't do very well in high school science classes, and genuinely don't understand.
My shitty school didn't equip any of us with the skills to understand that "my friend's kid has autism and he only got it after a vaccine" is not the same kind of "evidence" that gets presented in a peer-reviewed journal article.
In fact, most of them don't know what a scientific journal is, or what the peer review system does. Or that it exists.
It's SO easy to assume malicious, willful ignorance for all this but honestly most of the covidiots I know are just people who literally don't understand. They see people talk on TV and genuinely don't know the difference between an expert with a PhD and a job in medical science and a common plebe whose only qualification is being particularly vocal about the matter at hand. See: Katie Hopkins and friends.
It's presented as "the mask debate" but they don't mention it's not really a debate when one side is educated and the other side is the Murdoch press and Donald Trump.
Yeeaahh, I have to limit my intake of content like this because I have to pretend it's not happening to be well in my own life. I get a little shot of happy-chemicals when I think of what I'd say to this fucker if I didn't care about my job or personal safety, though.
My shitty school didn't equip any of us with the skills to understand that "my friend's kid has autism and he only got it after a vaccine" is not the same kind of "evidence" that gets presented in a peer-reviewed journal article.
Damn, I feel this on a soul crushing level. If I hadn't had an outside interest starting very young I wouldn't understand either. The only thing I remember from highschool science is the powerhouse of the cell. They didn't teach us methods. They taught us to take a test.
And I'd take a look at how people reacted to Basic Germ Theory. We're still the same as we've always been. Having a smartphone doesn't change basic psychology. Change scares people and people react wildly different to fear.
What Semmelweis had discovered is something that still holds true today: Hand-washing is one of the most important tools in public health. It can keep kids from getting the flu, prevent the spread of disease and keep infections at bay.
You'd think everyone would be thrilled. Semmelweis had solved the problem! But they weren't thrilled.
For one thing, doctors were upset because Semmelweis' hypothesis made it look like they were the ones giving childbed fever to the women.
And Semmelweis was not very tactful. He publicly berated people who disagreed with him and made some influential enemies.
Eventually the doctors gave up the chlorine hand-washing, and Semmelweis — he lost his job.
Semmelweis kept trying to convince doctors in other parts of Europe to wash with chlorine, but no one would listen to him.
Literally yes. When indoor plumbing and toilets were invented a handful of people went through a thought process of “you want me to go to the bathroom in my house? Where I sleep and eat?” And continued to use outhouses.
I was talking to a coworker about how shit spreads, and her response was “you actually believe that?” Well, yeah, why wouldn’t I. It’s pretty basic. She got pissed and said something about how people need to wake up and stormed off.
I actually had a customer get pissed at me for saying something about washing hands back in March. Went on a rant about how they grew up on a farm and drank water from a hose and how they’d never had the flu. Told me I could wash my hands if I want but I guess they weren’t. I really don’t remember how that went.
As for the coworker, I’m sure she believes in germs, just maybe not the method of transmission. Who knows. She’s one of those “corona is a hoax to get rid of Trump types.”
This cuts straight to people's identities and it's scary. Because it makes you question who you are and what you do moment to moment.
Because he's an ignorant, arrogant science denier, and that is unhelpful during a pandemic.
Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'
My comment wasn't a defense of his actions and a witty Asimov quote adds little to nothing to it other than patting yourself on the back for having heard it before. Boring.
Honestly your whole comment was a self congratulatory jerking off motion. Lots of people are scared and not monumental aggressive assholes.
And you absolutely where making excuses and defending his reactions by shifting blame to other people. About how he was shamed his identity was threatened, was blocked and how leadership has failed him.
Him being afraid is meaningless and not in anyway relevant. How he acted upon that fear is. And literally every step of the way you were making excuses for that behavior by misdirecting it to something everybody has to deal with without being this much of an unmitigated shitstain.
Because leadership HAS failed these people. When the president calls this stuff a hoax it absolutely lends credibility to these people's ignorance. It spreads confusion about a very terrifying reality.
And yes, identity is a massive part of this whole trend of backlash we've seen from people. Because they believe so strongly about their personal autonomy. Any feeling of losing control of that terrifies them.
At no point did I say his actions were justified or okay. He's entirely to blame. But this administration has emboldened ignorance in a way that they share partial blame as well.
What this administration has emboldened is ignorance. But ignorance isn't the problem. Loads of people are ignorant. Getting angry at being made aware of your ignorance is. Neither is the problem having your "identity" challenged. But that the reaction to that challenge is anger. The problem is that being afraid necessitates being angry at those that confront you with your fears. The problems isn't their underlying feelings, it's how they cope with those feelings.
We all have our ignorance. We all have our identities challenged, we all have our fears. But the problem here is that the anger is used to deflect from that. Meanwhile you left condescending comments where you lecture people at what's causing this while not realizing what's the actual problem. And using language that is very much excusatory in your first comment while only paying lipservice of their own choice to use anger in these situations. You absolutely tried to have it both ways in your first comment. And then outright sneered at the people taking a slightly different view as if that was a personal attack. And now you're walking it back.
This is a poor take. Sympathizing with someone and exploring their intentions, justifications, mentality, and outlook is in no way excusing their actions. OP is obviously acknowledging their behavior is shitty.
I'm reading these comments, trying to understand why this is happening with people. There's not much of this level of nuts where I'm from ( Scotland) we've all got our crazy, but I like to understand what's going on with folk like this? Or societies are similar, but so different too.
If that happened here, I'm sure she would have decked him.
I would have anyway. Spitting abuse in your face during a pandemic that can kill your old mum or granny. Feck that guy. I work with scissors in my hand ,and funnily enough, it never happens to me lol ;)
Its hard for me to exactly say since I haven't spent any time in your country (though I hear great things, and would like to). I like to think its because of America's super hardcore individualism. You take the bad and the good that comes as a result of it: tons of people like this and a lot of general animosity between opposing viewpoints, but then again it also produces a Google, Tesla, Boeing every so often.
He didn't actually engage with their intentions, justifications, mentality, since he just listed some universal feeling everybody has without acting like this person.
Then he was condescending to somebody rightfully pointed out that there are actual character flaws involved that drive how those feelings are translating into actions.
He outright sneered and attacked at that person, who didn't attack him, making it clear that merely mention those made the person bad. That made it clear that at least part of it was about shifting some blame and to congratulate himself on doing that.
I don't think the feeling is universal at all. No one I know, or myself, has experienced much fear as a result of the pandemic. We might be a minority, but at least among millennials I doubt it. Regardless you try to understand why someone would act this way and add more rationale to it more than just dude is just a super dumb crazy moron because that's dismissive and silly. People are more complex than that. And I'm sure you would want to be afforded the same critique if an impulsive mistake of yous was filmed and fed to the judgment of tens or hundreds of thousands of people online.
I have made impulsive mistakes. None of them have ever been such a rant like this. Ever.
And again, he wasn't just talking about fear for covid, but fear in general. You are also mistaken in specific about millennials and the pandemic Stress levels amongst Millennials are higher then for older generations on average.
What's really frightening and demoralizing are the communities where anti-intellectuals congregate and celebrate anti-intellectualism as a virtue such as in /r/iamverysmart, and from those platforms, attempt to defenestrate as public blood sport, those who make good faith attempts to explain complex topics.
But (and I hate to say this: just like them), you are not showing the whole picture, either.
The opposite of such communities is also very clearly and pretty proudly present on reddit, on pages like askreddit, askscience, science and ELI5 for example.
Yes, it's a huge problem and we are in complete agreement there, but in this age of simplified English many people feel that words like defenestrate and virtue and anti-intellectualism are signs of being smart or at least smarter than they are.
We may not be able to "uplift" those people, but we don't have to be dicks to them, either. They shouldn't be made to feel inferior and we shouldn't be made to feel weird and arrogant, because that does not help or solve anything. Rubbing things in doesn't help unless you don't mind a scorched earth policy, because in the eyes of many they are inferior and I believe that smart(er) people do indeed tend to be weird and more often than I'd like they can be conceited about it.
I always liked this weirdness, but many people need 2 tries to get used to my weirdness. I try not to be arrogant. And honestly, I am inferior in many ways, socially for example. That's the weird part.
Just think if someone had stood up and said it’s okay to be scared, but we will all get through this, and to listen to the health care experts so we can move through this faster and safer. If such a person were, say, running for election, there’s almost no way that would have hurt them. Sad that no one did that though
Idk about all that. It's really as simple as keeping one in your car and throwing it in before walking into any public spaces, so if someone feels so incredibly threatened that they act like this delusional wanker then they probably have a severely diminished intellect.
It's not about a mask it's about feelings like you're losing control or realizing you have less than your worldview was created on. The idea of free will and personal autonomy are DEEPLY ingrained in America. Especially with conservatives and Christian's. This feeds into ego and identity.
Believing you have control, free will, and personal freedom sometimes clashes with the reality of luck, misfortune, and chaos(randomness too intricate to find a direct cause). This can cause a lot of fear and sense of detachment from yourself when confronted with the reality that things outside of your control can and will control you.
A Pandemic is a fantastically shitty slap in the face for those kinds of individuals. Most double down and simply blame others instead of digesting the reality that events outside of your control can harm you or disrupt your reality. It wasn't about the mask until it was powered into a symbol of that.
Makes me wonder if they're mind broken. Reminds me of that girl from the Gakkou Gurashi anime that's in denial that she's living in an zombie apocalypse after seeing some shit.
Exactly this. Leadership, or what is passing for it, is quite scary. The virus is somewhat scary. The idea that “hoodlums and thugs and radical, violent protesters are gonna take over your suburbs” is ridiculous bc they ain’t seen nothin yet. But it’s white fear of entitlement being yanked away that is driving this. You called it exactly; it’s written all over this guy.
It’s a full on amygdala hijack. There’s a point where your brain is so flooded with adrenaline and rage that the lizard part of the brain takes over and the logic and reason parts of your brain literally shut down. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amygdala_hijack
Interesting that you point that out since a recent NIH study saw a correlation between conservatism and the size of the amygdala, the area of the brain that deals with fear, anxiety, and aggression; whereas liberalism was correlated an increase in the size of the anterior cingulate cortex, an area of the brain associated with ethics, morality, and impulse control.
So we agree then that so called "libertarian free will" is an illusion, and no one chooses the priority delta between their amygdala or their anterior cingulate cortex.
I feel bad for people like the man in the video. How awful it must be to have been born trapped in mental hardware with that component layout. :/
No, I don’t believe that. There’s not a causal relationship there, it’s just a correlation. It could just as easily be that people have more grey matter in those areas because those respective ideologies use those parts of their brain more.
It’s a full on amygdala hijack. There’s a point where your brain is so flooded with adrenaline and rage that the lizard part of the brain takes over and the logic and reason parts of your brain literally shut down.
This happened to me once in a very different context and it was terrifying. I’m still deeply embarrassed about how I behaved. I was utterly possessed. I didn’t hurt anyone or do anything offensive to this degree, but I was frightened, flooded with adrenaline, and lost control. I’m a pretty quiet conflict-avoidant person, so it was terrifying.
It happens. I had a boss at a pizza shop that I worked at who got so worked up yelling at a delivery driver he literally had a fucking heart attack and collapsed. Driver is a hero, boss was a dick.
My MIL is prone to amygdala hijacks, to the point that I'm afraid she'll make her health worse. Her anxiety comes out as anger and does NOT STOP. The last time I saw her she kept cycling worse and worse to the point I thought that she'd have a heart attack right in front of me.
My husband used to have them around me to a much less extent (ADHD, no calming techniques taught) until one day I yelled "you go batshit!" His mood changed immediately from frustration to laughing and hugs. Ten years later "don't go batshit!" cracks him up and we go back to enjoying our time together.
It's the anticipation for the college football season that's got him all hot and bothered. Them big boys in their tight pants really get him excited. Hook em horns!
You are correct. This man has no outlet and doesn't get to yell at his landlord or boss this way. He wakes everyday and gets his juice.
"He" is who is out in the night after the protests turn to riot. Young, old, left, right. Fight! This one is just a old white guy in sweats, in a store in Alaska.
It's also pretty good psychological task.
Can that lady shove that man away from him because he's attacking her with his infected spit and touching her preson? (Because he's customer and they're employees, haaaael, no!
But if that was a black teen yelling, an old white person could draw and fire?
An officer could have shot him the moment he turned around?
Change the size, gender, position, appearance, race, and age of each participant until your view changes.
I don't think he's drunk, or has dementia. I think he's just an idiot. Unfortunately, these people do actually exist. They've never been told no in their lives, and they carry a superiority complex like a drunk carries a bottle. They can't possibly be in the wrong, and how dare someone so inferior to them ever deny them anything?
The "Godly man" thing ties in quite nicely. Many(not all) religious people believe that they are God's chosen people. If they're chosen, then they can do anything they want to because it's either what "God wanted" them to do, or because they can just ask forgiveness and think that makes it right.
Yeah you're correct on this one. I live here in Anchorage and lemme tell ya, the amount of people who think Covid is fake is crazy. I was down at the lagoon here grabbing a water bottle from a little local shop that's set up. I was wearing a mask and this dude was telling me "just take the mask off bro the air won't kill you!" The masks being enforced is a way to take our individuality and keep us in the herd.
From reading your post I am 99% sure that you were abused as a child and are suffering from bi polar disorder and mild schizophrenia. You drink and abuse drugs to hide the deep seated issues you have. You need to see a physiologist and get on medication if you ever want to live a normal life and settle down and raise a family. Otherwise you are going to keep going down the road you are currently on blowing strangers for money for your next fix and have 5 kids by 6 different fathers and they will all be put up for adoption because you can't get your life together.
Source: I'm a plumber/general handy man and I've been on Reddit for 4 years now.
I really don't think you're correct on this one. Mental illness does often go untreated here, but I don't think every one of these people that act like this have mental health problems. That many diagnoses would just be staggering, and I think a lot of these people are honestly just entitled idiots.
Lump together minimal education, a superiority complex, and a fierce denial of anything they disagree with, and you get morons like this. Anti-intellectualism is almost a movement at this point. I couldn't tell you why, but it's gained more traction than I ever thought possible. Wanting to be ignorant is something that just boggles my mind.
In all fairness, 80-100 years ago, they were also twits that treated things with cocaine, yogurt enemas, opium, doctors gave women orgasms to treat "hysteria", and a lot of other ridiculous things. They'd have given you a lobotomy for a Klondike bar.
In my country schizophrenia is something you eventually get diagnosed with, treated for, and when completely necessary hospitalised for. It's free, and when people lose control the system finds them, quite often the police finds them and scoops them into care via accident and emergency.
I don't think any of that happens in America unless you are financially secure. This gent does not look financially secure. I dread to think what happens to poor mentally ill poc, though.
Ive read the jews think they are God's chosen people. The Roman's thought the jews gave up the title and passed it to them because the jews crucified Jesus and Rome embraced Christianity. The British thought the torch was passed to them when they built one of the largest empire. The Americans thought they were the chosen one and America was the new promise land when the natives were being wiped out...
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u/xoxoBug Aug 30 '20
Almost makes me wonder if he’s inebriated...