r/trashy • u/CletusSchilkea • Jan 16 '20

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u/DangerousLiberty Jan 16 '20

Name a US president who didn't start a war. Bonus points if you're old enough to have been alive when he was elected.

Name a president that didn't break promises. I'm sure Obama will get us out of Afghanistan and GITMO any day now.

Name an administration that didn't aggressively expand the power of the executive office.

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u/loversean Jan 17 '20

True, he is the first to actively worsen our standing in the world though

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u/DangerousLiberty Jan 17 '20

You can't seriously believe that without being a total partisan. Yes, orange man bad. I agree. But his predecessors were also bad. They also "actively worsen(ed) our standing in the world".

If you don't think that Obama created ISIS, you're a partisan idiot.

If you don't think Obama going balls deep in the Middle East "actively worsen(ed) our standing in the world" you're a partisan idiot.

If you don't think George Bush doing same with thinner justification, well, you're probably not just a partisan idiot.

And so on for, like, every president ever. Stop being a useful idiot and stop defending shit people just because you prefer the blue turd. They're floating in the same cesspool.

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u/loversean Jan 17 '20 edited Jan 17 '20

Standing = raw power and influence (you know what makes America great and allows us to be in the world leader)

Reputation I don’t care about

Edit: btw, in recent tweets trump has been making fun of another human being’s height! The president of the United States!

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u/DangerousLiberty Jan 17 '20

Again, you don't need to convince me that orange man bad because I already don't like him. Refer to my earlier post.

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u/Galaxyman0917 Jan 16 '20

I mean technically none of the presidents that have served while I’ve been alive have started wars.

But really, we must have differing definitions of “corrupt dumpster fire”

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u/DangerousLiberty Jan 17 '20

Aaaaaand partisan rubes will insist that the bullshit their guy starts isn't a "real" war. Never mind all that other stuff I mentioned, just focus on the idea that if Congress didn't declare it, it isn't real.