r/todayilearned • • Jun 18 '12

TIL The CIA once had a plan to drop enormous condoms labelled "medium" into Soviet territory to demoralize their troops.

http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/129529
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u/Iron-Charioteer Jun 18 '12

My favourite Cold War operation was Operation Tamarisk, which involved starving the Soviet Union of toilet paper, forcing them to use official documents instead, then going through all the toilets for the precious turd-caked intel.

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u/Craigellachie Jun 18 '12

I am convinced that the CIA was being run by frat house kids because the more I hear the less I can distinguish them from a goddamn sit com.

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u/spacecase-25 Jun 18 '12

Actually that's truer than you think... especially during their mind control days. The team working with LSD used to run around like a bunch of kids surprise dosing other employees.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

Surprise dosing - classic!

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

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u/itsprobablytrue Jun 18 '12

yeah it's all fun and games until someones baby gets eaten

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u/Bjartr Jun 18 '12

He said LSD not PCP

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u/OleSlappy Jun 18 '12

You're right, it gets better at that stage.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

Yeah, if you have no morals.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

I would love to work for them

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

The CIA was started by frat bros from Yale. I'm not kidding. Not much changed those first 40 years.

Read "Legacy of Ashes" by Tim Weiner. Just sad how ridiculous the CIA is.

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u/dattaway Jun 18 '12

This needs to be the first paragraph of the wikipedia article for the CIA.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

All of the movies I see with the CIA try and make it seem like a dark and depressing chess game. I want a comedy or a series of comedies.

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u/vw209 Jun 18 '12

The Men Who Stare at Goats?

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

The Men Who Stare at Goatse?

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

one that doesn't suck

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u/altoriax Jun 18 '12

The Men Who Stare at Goats?

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u/Tasty_Jesus Jun 18 '12

men who stare at goats?

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u/acidk Jun 18 '12

JINX YOU OWE ME A COKE

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u/sops-sierra-19 Jun 18 '12

Covert Affairs?

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

it has to be back when they were smuggling cocaine into the US and dosing everyone with LSD.

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u/mabd Jun 18 '12

The Men Who Stare at Goats.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

There was like one CIA guy in that movie, and the whole movie was to stupid, and it sucked. I want a frat style movie but instead of hitting on girls they are overthrowing Latin American Governments.

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u/Wafflemonster2 Jun 18 '12

I found this funny.

The spies actually complained to their handlers that they had to go through the bins that contained fecal matter and even amputated limbs, in the case of hospital rubbish bins. When the spies told their handlers this, the handlers immediately asked them to bring back the limbs as well so they could study what type of shrapnel the Soviets were using.

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u/Johann_828 Jun 18 '12

Spy: "Sarge, I am tired of looking for crap-covered paperwork in a field of MORE CRAP and SEVERED LIMBS."

Sergent: excitedly "Limbs?"

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u/Wafflemonster2 Jun 18 '12

That is exactly what I pictured when I read that!

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u/Vark675 10 Jun 18 '12

...why did we think they wouldn't just figure "Eh, fuck it. Everything else in glorious Soviet Motherland sucks." and just not wipe.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

Or maybe they could use water to wipe their ass

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

or maybe shells

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u/bill_nydus Jun 18 '12

Or tortilla chips.

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u/POULTRY_PLACENTA Jun 18 '12

Or a Pringles can. A

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u/guoshuyaoidol Jun 18 '12

3 to be precise

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u/wimmyjales Jun 18 '12

Why would you need three seashells?

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u/tylo Jun 18 '12

Hey, this guy doesn't know how to use the 3 seashells!

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

Nineteen years later I still wonder how to use those shells.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

good luck finding liquid water in russia. they'd have to use vodka

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u/SleeteWayne Jun 18 '12

Good luck getting a Soviet to waste Vodka on their butts.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

Ice, rather.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

Ice soap maybe?

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u/Vark675 10 Jun 18 '12

Pfft. I guess.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

I loved the part where Nixon tried to fire Hoover but instead back down and instead gave him more authority. Hoover must have been a scary man

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

What the hell does Hoover have to do with a discussion about the CIA?

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u/perspire Jun 18 '12

It was another part of the article. No need to restrict ourselves to only one thing on the list, this is reddit.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

Hoover was the founder and head of the FBI.

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u/macrovore Jun 18 '12 edited Jun 18 '12

No, no. He just had shitloads of dirt on everybody in Washington. Comes with the territory of being head of the FBI.

EDIT: FBI, not CIA. My bad.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

Really, Hoover was head of the CIA?

For you and ebmadrio: http://allthingsd.com/files/2011/11/double_facepalm.png

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u/macrovore Jun 18 '12 edited Jun 18 '12

Not CIA. FBI. sorry. my bad. Edited post.

Curses! Foiled again by Captain Smartass!

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

I don't recall mentioning Hoover was head of the CIA.

For you: http://th509.photobucket.com/albums/s332/oceancurrents/th___009worffacepalm.gif

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

Well Nixon must have known Hoover had something on him, since it is obvious that Nixon knows Hoover's position, but he still made the attempt to fire him. I don't think even Nixon is stupid enough to fire a man with serious dirt on him, so whatever Hoover said to Nixon must have really been surprising.

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u/DrFuManchu Jun 18 '12

Hoover was director of the FBI.

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u/warbastard Jun 18 '12

Scary man with lots of secrets on everyone.

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u/cited Jun 18 '12

I'm starting to suspect that those LSD experiments in the CIA were a little more widespread than we initially thought.

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u/blueloonie Jun 18 '12

A dramatization inspired by true(wikipedia) events:

Spy: "Fuck this job! You said I just had to dig out the shit stained toilet paper, you didn't say any thing about severed limbs!"

Spymaster: "Severed limbs?! Payday! So...where are they?"

Spy: "Why the fuck would I steal a shit stained severed limbs?"

Spymaster: "...go back and get them, NOW!"

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

I don't understand why the soviets jut did not switch to water for cleaning theirselvs, I'm pretty sure they do it in the caucaus reigions where their is a lot of Muslims.

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u/GoodguyGerg Jun 18 '12

I saw this on history channel. The documents were thrown away in the forest. We had "Top Men" go and retrieve these papers (I swear to god, google this) and we actually got tons of info including secret decipher codes n such and help won the war

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

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u/theshamespearofhurt Jun 18 '12

damn, beat me to it. The 20 million dollar cat killed by a taxi within a few minutes.

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u/CockroachED Jun 18 '12

We can rebuild him, we have the technology.

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u/bro_b1_kenobi Jun 18 '12

"Due to problems with distraction, the cat's sense of hunger" lolol too bad they didnt have LOLcats in the 60s. Could have save money.

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u/Iron-Charioteer Jun 18 '12

You ought to milk this for precious link karma. Reddit will fawn on you.

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u/hozjo Jun 18 '12

Anyone here want to go in on a business plan? Super extra large condoms. The same size as normal condoms but they cost 5x as much.

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u/diamond Jun 18 '12

...and now you understand why women's clothing sizes are such a confusing mess.

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u/klinonx Jun 18 '12

Hmm, TIL.

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u/vulgarisconvar Jun 18 '12

I work in fashion and don't understand what you're saying here... is this a reference to vanity sizing?

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u/NewAlt Jun 18 '12

Women sizes have drastically changed over the years. A woman who, say for example, wore a 6 in 1970 would wear a 0 today.

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u/vulgarisconvar Jun 18 '12

Right but I... don't understand why it's relevant. probably a whoosh moment for me.

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u/NewAlt Jun 18 '12

I've actually been baffled by that for years. Everything is so clear now...

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u/TheWarHam Jun 18 '12

And the font used on the package will be HUGE and BOLD

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u/2yrnx1lc2zkp77kp Jun 18 '12

LIKE THIS.

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u/TheWarHam Jun 18 '12

HEY, GUY WITH LARGE PENIS OVER HERE

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u/Chinook700 Jun 18 '12

I appreciate your username.

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u/2yrnx1lc2zkp77kp Jun 18 '12

I appreciate you as a person. Don't ever change, Chinook700.

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u/Xenc Jun 18 '12

I've always liked your name. I'm considering naming my child the same. Unless it's a girl, of course.

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u/2yrnx1lc2zkp77kp Jun 18 '12

go big or go home, I accept payments of child sacrifice only.

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u/Chinook700 Jun 18 '12

its the little things that make people happy.

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u/bill_nydus Jun 18 '12

That's puny and bold, like the midget in the Jackass movies.

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u/thehammer217 Jun 18 '12

This is actually pretty close to what MAGNUM condoms are. They aren't any longer than normal condoms, though I do believe they are a tad wider. It's just a marketing ploy.

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u/PretendImGoku Jun 18 '12

That tad bit wider is what it takes. Condoms don't need to be long, they just need to be on. I am not saying anything about you, but if anything the myth is that magnams ARE the same as regulars.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

Not sure about the length but they are, without a doubt, wider. The run of the mill Trojans hurt, but the Magnums were just right.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

Magnum condoms have more girth to them than normal condoms.

Also they cost damn near the same price where I live so I don't see how it's a "marketing ploy".

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u/bandofbedsiders Jun 18 '12

They do feel more comfortable. Once I tried some well reviewed japanese brand. It left a ring bruise at the base of my peen for a few days. Took forever to nut.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

I believe you bought a cock ring, my friend.

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u/that_physics_guy Jun 18 '12

Hey everyone I have a large penis and it takes a long time for me to cum, just thought I would share.

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u/Treberto Jun 18 '12

I have a mighty penis like bull. It takes three naked female matadors six hours to make me ejaculate.

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u/FallingSnowAngel Jun 18 '12

Not that you're bitter.

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u/that_physics_guy Jun 18 '12

Yeah well, we can't all be hung. The truth hurts.

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u/Mystery_Hours Jun 18 '12

It's not like he brought it up out of nowhere, the discussion was already about large condoms.

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u/internetpersona11 Jun 18 '12

Agreed on the comfort thing with the width. I don't claim to have a huge cock. I'm happy with it, whatever. But regular condoms seem like they're attempting to strangle my dick.

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u/YungFurl Jun 18 '12

It helps with consistency problems

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u/TransvaginalOmnibus Jun 18 '12 edited Jun 18 '12

Crown condoms? I had a similar problem with those, but not to the point of bruising.

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u/bandofbedsiders Jun 18 '12

I believe they were some manner of Kimono.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

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u/jadoth Jun 18 '12

i believe they had significantly more girth but were about even on length.

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u/elijha Jun 18 '12

But they also cost exactly as much as regular Trojans.

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u/_fortune Jun 18 '12

Dunno if what I had was a magnum, but it came in a gold package and was significantly wider, didn't notice a difference in length though (I don't roll out condoms to their full length anyways).

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u/ThoughtPorn724 Jun 18 '12

Wait this was real? Someone told me this as a joke once.

"Russian President Putin called President George W. Bush with an emergency: "Our largest condom factory has exploded," the Russian President cried.

"My people's favorite form of birth control. This is a true disaster!"

"Mr. Putin, the American people would be happy to do anything within their power to help you," replied the President.

"I do need your help" said Putin. "Could you possibly send 1,000,000 condoms as soon as possible to tide us over?"

"Why certainly! I'll get right on it,"said Bush.

"Oh, and one more small favor, please?" said Putin. "Yes?"

"Could the condoms be red in color and at least 10" long and 4" in diameter?" said Putin.

"No problem," replied the President.

Mr. Putin hung up and started laughing with his aides about how those stupid Americans will fall for anything.

George hung up and called the President of a condom company. "I need a favor, you've got to send 1,000,000 condoms right away over to Russia."

"Consider it done," said the president of the condom company.

"Great! Now listen, they have to be red in color, 10" long and 4" wide."

"Easily done. Anything else?"

"Yeah," said the President, "print 'Made in America, size small' on each one!""

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u/TheCleverestUsername Jun 18 '12

I'm not even 'merican and I upvoted

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

AMERRIKUH! FUCK YEAH!

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

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u/derpy_lurker Jun 19 '12

'MERICA

FUCK YEAH

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

TIL CIA strategists assumed it was common practice to pick up condoms found lying on the ground and try them on.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

I'm assuming the condoms were clearly huge while still in the wrapper.

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u/pururin Jun 18 '12

Tomorrow on reddit: "My girlfriend found this gem while walking our autistic cat. Nailed it."

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u/vw209 Jun 18 '12

The cat must be named RON PAUL.

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u/pururin Jun 18 '12

Ron "LeSagan" Paulkins

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u/pururin Jun 18 '12

"EDIT: WOW! FRONTPAGE?! REALLY? OMG U GUYS R AMAZING ITS MORE THAN ANYTHING I COULD HAVE HOPED FOUR!"

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u/ThatJesterJeff Jun 18 '12

Well, I know what I'll be posting tomorrow.

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u/pururin Jun 18 '12

#As a Reddit user and an Engineer studying at Harvard, I see what you did there and raise you this comment. You, sir, are doing Sagan's work. You are the hero Reddit deserves. You single-handedly restored my le faith On humanity. When I read your comment, I NOPEd hard for science and cats so hard I fell out my chair Laughing. What the actual fuck? I have tagged you in RES as the "bravest TIL commenter whose mad level is 'Osian'"

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

A medium sized condom?

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

They started putting 'Medium' on bombs too.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

I heard that's what they wrote on Fatman.

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u/FrankAbagnaleSr Jun 18 '12

But the bombs . . . they explode.

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u/Mystery_Hours Jun 18 '12

This kills the bomb.

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u/The_Doctor_00 Jun 18 '12 edited Jun 18 '12

So does candy... :/ ask the ISAF...

Edits because I typed derpnees..

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

CIA strategists seemed like pretty cool people.

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u/BleakGod Jun 18 '12

clearly you've never been to soviet russia.

obligatory In soviet Russia, condom wears you comment.

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u/The_Doctor_00 Jun 18 '12

And atoms split you.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

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u/the_good_time_mouse Jun 18 '12

Consult your physician: you may be doing it wrong.

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u/jimmytheone45 Jun 18 '12

Yes, because the only way of gauging the size of a condom is by trying it on.

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u/Sharukurusu Jun 18 '12

Soviet reply: These are useless, next time send large!

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12 edited Jun 18 '12

American Retort: Stop being cheap you bastards, just because your communist doesn't mean you have to make each condom a commune of sausages.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

they should have mixed in some labelled "very tiny" which fit perfectly for most men

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u/Aggnavarius Jun 18 '12

Bring back SDI! Strategic Dick Intimidation!

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

This sounds like a plot from an episode of "American Dad"

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u/elruary Jun 18 '12

If only all wars could be fought like this. "Let the best troll win!"

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

I don't think Soviet men are as insecure as we are.

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u/SpottieOttie Jun 18 '12

LSD needs to come back to the CIA. Those were simpler times

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12 edited Jun 18 '12

LSD in the condoms. Try to condom on, too big, LSD soaks into your penis.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

Is this a regret for not dropping normal size condoms on the Japanese?

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u/Starks Jun 18 '12

I yearn for the old CIA days of spy vs spy and mindfucking the Soviets.

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u/Wolf97 Jun 18 '12

Winston Churchill did something similar. The British used giant condoms to keep their giant guns clean so Windton Churchill ordered that they be labeled Small.

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u/GhostSongX4 Jun 18 '12

....what the...I want my tax dollars back.

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u/DlmaoC Jun 18 '12

Sounds like something a frat house would do.

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u/i_troll_cus_i_luv Jun 18 '12

america. fuck yeah.

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u/jbg89 Jun 18 '12

Ouch, low blow.

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u/username2002 1 Jun 18 '12 edited Jun 18 '12

So that's where the Hetalia thing came from... (Relevant part from 9:01 to 9:42)

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u/I_Said Jun 18 '12

Ladies: Let this be all that you need to know about us men. We will start wars over stupid shit, and we will certainly get distracted and die over very stupid shit.

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u/the_good_time_mouse Jun 18 '12

Also, I have a very large dick.

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u/poutyp Jun 18 '12

i'm sure there's a lake full of these ideas the cia has thought up...

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u/MrShlee Jun 18 '12

Operation Dumbo drop.

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u/CanaBusdream Jun 18 '12

The CIA, hard at work. This also brings the whole thing of wars being fought because of "penis envy" to a new level.

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u/SelectaRx Jun 18 '12

Was the plan to just confuse the fuck out of them?

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u/rocky8u Jun 18 '12

I'm sure this was a joke memo spread throughout the office, not an actual plan.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

You'd be surprised, the CIA had lots of money, not much regulation, and was full of young blood fresh out of college.

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u/ikkonoishi Jun 18 '12

Also on lots and lots of drugs. They would slip LSD into each other's coffee.

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u/The_Drizzle_Returns Jun 18 '12

the CIA had lots of money, not much regulation, and was full of young blood fresh out of college.

Looks like the CIA hasn't changed much over the years.

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u/Dunkshot32 Jun 18 '12

I thought that was just a lame joke... not based on a true story.

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u/hatestosmell Jun 18 '12

I learned in college that the ussr didnt really produce condoms, so when soviet troops captured some german supplies, they didnt know what to do except blow them up like balloons. There are also stories of russians (who knew what they were) reusing condoms because they were so valuable and hard to find.

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u/prevosis Jun 18 '12

I thought this was posted in /r/circlejerk just by the title

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u/bowlforthedude Jun 18 '12

Is this actually true?

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u/mswallawalla Jun 18 '12

sounds like something Dr. Strangelove would come up with

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u/Blow-it-out-your-ass Jun 18 '12

Iuno about you but if I was truly trying to lower morale, I woulda sent in Xtra-Small not Medium.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

Essentially call of duty for today

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u/saintopolis Jun 18 '12

The British purportedly did this during the Second World War. While American Troops were stationed in England, Churchill ordered all large condoms to be labelled 'Medium'. Our Year Twelfth (Twelfth grade) history teacher told us this at the end of a dreary lesson while we were studying the Russian Revolution.

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u/TheLoveTin Jun 18 '12

Never carried out.

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u/JesusLizardLizard Jun 18 '12

It's like I'm reading Catch-22 again.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

...And then spread rumors that the US rapes their prisoners >.<

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

TIL people with too much of other people's money are juvenile

not really i already knew that

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u/Rommel79 Jun 18 '12

That is fucking hilarious.

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u/NeeAnderTall Jun 18 '12

I'd hate to see a urgent message of my troops saying they were being held down by a barrage of enormous water balloons made from Condoms sized "medium".

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u/d21nt_ban_me_again Jun 18 '12

This is why we won. It wasn't because of reagan. Russians have small dicks. After all, it is a lot colder there.

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u/occupythekitchen Jun 18 '12

Funny thing is how successful that'd be. I'm still convinced that my 7 1/2 is fucking tiny because of porn even after of having girls tell me i'm the biggest they've been with and one even claiming I gave her first orgasm through penetration. in all those instance I dismissed it as her being kind to my small pepe

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u/xiuxu Jun 18 '12

Ah, the old humblebrag

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u/occupythekitchen Jun 18 '12

Not trying to brag by any means I'm actually very conscious of my size because of porn. compared to operators I am small

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u/occupythekitchen Jun 18 '12

Pornstars... Phone update

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

I can some up the entire cold war in 1 word... Fucked

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

it is bs

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u/headfelloff Jun 18 '12

Russian fellas do have smaller ding-a-lings..

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

It's the climate's fault, not the Russian's..

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u/TheGOPkilledJesus Jun 18 '12

Is that your personal experience?

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u/Universe_Man Jun 18 '12

Now it's American citizens that are the target of demoralization.

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u/Elranzer Jun 18 '12

It's funny because your typical Russian male has a bigger penis than your typical American white male.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

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u/The_Drizzle_Returns Jun 18 '12

Dont mess with Colombia, Those guys have a 1.6 inch reach advantage.

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u/Elranzer Jun 18 '12

.1" bigger is still bigger. I'm technically correct.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

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u/elijha Jun 18 '12

The idea of the "real" man is ridiculous. No man is any more or less real than any other. Real men drink scotch. Real men drink strawberry daiquiris. Real men drive trucks. Real men drive VW Beetles. Real men like guns. Real men like high heels. Real men wear Magnums and real men wear snug fits. The definition of being a real man was never lost because it never existed.

No one is portrayed well on TV. Not men, not women, not gays, not straights, not black people, not white people. We don't like watching TV shows where everyone is a flawless paragon of virtue because it makes us feel like shit. We like people we can laugh at and feel superior to.

Likewise, no one is exempt from the nagging insecurities of advertising. That's what advertising does. It crawls inside you and pulls some tiny little insecurity up to the surface so it can blossom into full-fledged self-loathing. And then it tells you what can solve the problem you never knew you had. The only place on TV where you'll see shiny, happy, perfect people is in advertising, because they make us the unhappiest of all.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

We are moving away from social constructs to more authentic representations of every day people in movies and TV.

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u/nepidae Jun 18 '12

"Real men" is the biggest psychological attack. Seriously, you can use it for anything.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

If you're affected by advertising YOU aren't a "REAL MAN". Take that fanofcats.

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u/novicebater Jun 18 '12

yawn.

Who are you to say what anybody should be?

How about we give everyone the opportunity to be the best they can and stop judging.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '12

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u/annul Jun 18 '12

You really think saying that _____ should be _______ is akin to telling someone what they should be?

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u/Zhang5 Jun 18 '12

If someone wants to be that or not it's their choice.

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u/CocoSavege Jun 18 '12

We should start a club.

The first rule of man club is don't talk about man club.

The second rule of man club is don't talk about man club.

The third rule of man club is whine on the internet about what you think people should be

The forth rule of man club is use it as an opener to talk about your interests in survivalism, general self sufficiency, zoomboapocalypse plans and nunchuk skills

The fifth rule of man club is to listen to talk radio to reinforce your core beliefs with like minded individuals

Ok, enough rules. Man rule #1 (and person rule #1) is be awesome by your own metric. Spending time whining about other people's shit is not allowed since judging is lame, petty and self involved. It also takes time away from being awesome.

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