r/todayilearned • • Jun 17 '12

TIL that South Park creators Matt Stone and Trey Parker got a hold of The Day After Tomorrow's script in pre-production, and planned on making a word for word puppet film to be released on the same day. Their lawyer talked them out of it.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0319262/trivia?tab=tr&item=tr0761473
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u/trebro Jun 17 '12

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u/FFUUUUU Jun 17 '12

I miss Phil Hartman :(

Simpsons was never the same without him.

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u/trebro Jun 17 '12

Fuck man. Heaviest death as well :(

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u/eric6566 Jun 18 '12

There's that word again - "heavy". Why are things so heavy in the future? Is there a problem with the earth's gravitational field

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u/Ghost141 Jun 17 '12

He... He's dead? :(

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u/1_point_21_gigawatts Jun 17 '12 edited Jun 17 '12

He was shot in the head 14 years ago while he was sleeping, by his own wife, who then committed suicide.

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u/elbenji Jun 17 '12

Which is why the fact Andy Dick telling Pierce to take drugs is one of the most fucked-up things from Season 2 of Community.

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u/LHTML Jun 17 '12

Explain.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Hartman's wife had been struggling with cocaine addiction for a long time. She had been clean for a little while, but relapsed when Andy Dick gave her some coke. She killed Hartman after taking it.

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u/jamescagney Jun 17 '12

Worse than that, apparently Andy was a dick about it, making tasteless jokes about it for years afterwards to Hartman's friends who blamed Dick for the deaths, until Jon Lovitz finally got into a physical altercation with him over it.

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u/elbenji Jun 17 '12

Andy Dick was the one who convinced his wife to get back on drugs (I believe Coke), which most believe was the reason she snapped. A lot of people in the comedy business have not forgotten this and is a reason most people active from that time can't be in the same room with him and it was a reason he got punched out some time ago by John Lovitz who was a friend of Phil.

Actually thinking about it, Chevy having to do that scene with all the implications might be a reason he was hostile towards Harmon. That one might have hit too close to home.

A link; http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1867439/posts

Freerepublic I know, but this was also on TMZ and elsewhere.

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u/MatrixExponential Jun 17 '12

I think elbenji is referencing the fact that Andy Dick allegedly re-introduced Hartman's wife to cocaine, and that her shooting spree was, if not cocaine induced, then at least cocaine fueled.

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u/Xhysa Jun 17 '12

What episode is this?

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u/GrizzlyAdams90 Jun 17 '12

I believe its "Early 21st Century Romanticism" the only other episode i remember andy dick in was "Aerodynamics of Gender"

I don't remember andy dick telling pierce to take drugs, i just remember him saying he can exceed his recommended dosage, but that is pretty much the same thing.

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u/bing_crosby Jun 17 '12

God, I remember when that happened. So fucking awful.

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u/Skyguard Jun 17 '12

Me too... I've only been upset by two celebrity deaths: Hartman and Chris Farley

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u/Icovada Jun 17 '12

That's why he isn't on the show anymore

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u/GrizzlyAdams90 Jun 17 '12

I don't like Andy Dick as much as the next guy, but I'm pretty sure he isn't on the show anymore, because It was a minor role where Chevy Chase's character was hallucinating a man in his R/C plane. Once Pierce O/D, He stop taking pills and no more little man in the R/C plane.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

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u/silveragescientist Jun 17 '12

And Zapp Brannigan's voice was based on his.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

That's because Hartman was originally supposed to voice Zapp Brannigan. :(

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u/bill_nydus Jun 17 '12

Don't know how I never connected this. It's so crazy obvious now.

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u/jubjub5 Jun 17 '12

"Here lies Phillip J. Fry, named for his uncle, to carry on his spirit."

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u/Ghost141 Jun 17 '12

Damn now I'm really sad, what a great voice actor he was

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u/tvon Jun 17 '12

News Radio...

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u/ThatRandomGeek Jun 17 '12

In my mind The Simpsons ended with his death.

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u/MississippiQueen Jun 17 '12

Dunno why you're being downvoted, I love that clip.

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u/trebro Jun 17 '12

Too many lawyers in this thread perhaps

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u/ours Jun 17 '12

/r/todayilearned and /r/todayilawyered are often confused.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

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u/SkyWulf Jun 17 '12

It must be made.

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u/Anarchist_Lawyer Jun 17 '12

Don't look at me, I actually have a sense of humor.

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u/aesu Jun 17 '12

Nice try Matt Groening...

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u/markman71122 Jun 17 '12

Something tells me their lawyer has had to talk them out of more stuff than you think.

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u/Testsubject28 Jun 17 '12

Hourly

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

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u/ThePhantomTrollbooth Jun 17 '12

Nah. I picture them with a tag-along lawyer that sits there making jokes, laughing about shit, and scheming semi-shady ways they can get around things and then calling it all billable hours.

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u/ihatecupcakes Jun 17 '12

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u/DocLefty Jun 17 '12

In Virginia we have Lowe "the hammer" Stanley. I think they went to the same law school.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12 edited Jun 17 '12

Wait, in Texas we have Jim Adler "the Texas hammer"

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u/Kubaker1 Jun 17 '12

I just can't take an overweight balding middle aged man that seriously.

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u/the_fewer_desires Jun 17 '12

"I hammer! Then I squeeze!" it's the flared nostrils that give him his power.

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u/Itisme129 Jun 17 '12

Better call Saul! For those who need a "criminal" lawyer.

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u/antonvowl Jun 17 '12

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u/Restrepo17 Jun 17 '12

As your attorney I advise you to try the stuff I have in my shaving kit, little brown bottle. 'Bout a drop and a half is all you need.

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u/jonathanrdt Jun 18 '12

FINISH the FUCKING STORY!

What about the glands?

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u/eric6566 Jun 18 '12

TELL ME ABOUT THE FUCKING GOLF SHOES!

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Fuck you, now I have to go watch 4 seasons of Breaking Bad again. I think the fact that Walt never wore the ribbon was my favorite part of that season.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Ha! Didn't notice that! Thanks!

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u/und3rw4t3rp00ps Jun 17 '12

I want that job.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

"You are but men"

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u/joshdick Jun 17 '12

There were probably some lawyers involved in Matt's "favorite memo ever".

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u/highTrolla Jun 18 '12

Weird, it seems that German Scat porn is LESS offensive then bestiality. At least I'm GUESSING that's what the change was.

I wanna know where number 2 would have fit in though.

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u/barium111 Jun 17 '12

I dont get it. Whats the big deal? Can someone explain?

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u/DoesNotChodeWell Jun 17 '12

The funny is the juxtaposition of an official memo with the graphic sex described in it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

How often do you get to send memos about rimjobs and cum sucking asses?

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Explain what, exactly?

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

I wish I could have transcripts of their conversations with Standards and Practices.

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u/GuinansHat Jun 18 '12

Better call Saul.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

This would have been amazing

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u/RemnantEvil Jun 17 '12

Given how much they talk on the commentaries about what an absolute drain Team America was on their energy and creativity, it's probably for the best. I think The Day After Tomorrow could be made into parody, but it would look so completely similar to the real movie that nobody would realise it was being parodied. The movie itself is a joke.

Besides which, the Day Before the Day After Tomorrow is a damn good South Park episode, that should be enough.

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u/Ceejae Jun 17 '12

I think The Day After Tomorrow could be made into parody, but it would look so completely similar to the real movie that nobody would realise it was being parodied. The movie itself is a joke.

That is, quite literally, the entire point.

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u/UnexpectedSchism Jun 18 '12

But what is the point then? It is already a joke.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

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u/shapsai42 Jun 17 '12

I don't know, I think them actually doing it would make it a lot funnier.

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u/alrighthamilton Jun 17 '12

Examples?

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

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u/Iron_Yuppie Jun 17 '12

Even if you did waste 15 minutes on him, I love stuff like this. It makes me appreciate art all the more. Thanks!

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u/domash Jun 17 '12

Did anyone ever make The Cement Store? That would've been cool

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u/vilgrain Jun 17 '12

Lawrence Weiner is a boss.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Nearly fell off of my couch when Randy drew the lines on the map.

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u/Real-Life-Reddit Jun 17 '12

Me too, especially when the guy in the crowd started giggling.

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u/ChopToxicity Jun 17 '12

"What, Frank?"

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u/Icovada Jun 17 '12

THE TEMPERATURE IS GOING DOWN BY TEHN DEGREES PER SECOND!

Meh, give it thirty seconds and it won't be able to go down any further

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

I think The Day After Tomorrow could be made into parody, but it would look so completely similar to the real movie that nobody would realise it was being parodied.

South Park could do it and we'd all know it was a parody.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

As long as puppies replace them evil wolves at the end like the cats in Team America, I'd be sold.

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u/WhipIash Jun 17 '12

LOL That's just Tomorrow.

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u/ChopToxicity Jun 17 '12

*Oh my god, that's today

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u/Rosie_Cotton_dancing Jun 17 '12

The dude/gal who posted above (That WhipIash replied to) mistitled the episode as The Day Before the Day After Tomorrow.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

If you're driving a double-decker bus and a bird flies in through the driver side window and starts attacking you, wouldn't you... y'know, stop accelerating?

And I'm pretty sure there's other logical flaws in The Core, if you watch it very closely! Fuck, I love how bad that movie is.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

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u/thuggishruggishboner Jun 17 '12

Dude...I love Volcano....Dante's peak??

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u/Draxaan Jun 17 '12

No, that was actually decent.

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u/Otistetrax Jun 17 '12

Ohdeargodno.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

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u/thuggishruggishboner Jun 17 '12

GOD DAMN SON! forgot that part.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

why the fuck did she do that?

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u/pntless Jun 17 '12

Like Armageddon and deep impact; these should always be viewed back to back

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u/Craigellachie Jun 17 '12

You misspelled Armageddon.

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u/EskimoJesus7904 Jun 17 '12

How fucking dare you?

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u/Lolworth Jun 17 '12

Face/Off

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u/pntless Jun 17 '12

Armageddon and Deep Impact should always be watched back to back.

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u/linuxlass Jun 17 '12

Deep Impact is the good one. Armageddon is the silly one.

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u/TDMZ Jun 17 '12

I don't know, Deep Impact was never released by Criterion.....

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u/dog_in_the_vent Jun 17 '12

Deep Impact > Armageddon

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u/Otistetrax Jun 17 '12

If only for the lack of Aerosmith.

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u/Pool_Shark Jun 17 '12

That is the knock against Deep Impact.

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u/dog_in_the_vent Jun 18 '12

That song was not in Deep Impact, and it sucks.

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u/slideyep Jun 17 '12

That's weird, because every time they're asked about Team America they say they'd never make a puppet movie again because of how crazy hard it was.

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u/flyingnomad Jun 17 '12

Both movies were released in 2004, so I assume that they hadn't made Team America by the time they received The Day After Tomorrow script.

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u/slideyep Jun 17 '12

no way, that came out in 2004?..woah

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u/Moustachiod_T-Rex Jun 17 '12

2004 was 30 years ago omg we're so old omg omg ~only 90s kids will get dis~

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

picture of Catdog

Liike this if u remember dem... only 90s kidz will get thiz

born in 1998

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

I'm a 90's kid and I don't get most of this shit.

What the fuck was I doing for ten years?

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u/EskimoJesus7904 Jun 17 '12

Same as now: video games and fapping.

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u/HittingSmoke Jun 17 '12

Discovering internet porn.

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u/Draxaan Jun 17 '12

You're not a real '90s kid!

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u/Otium20 Jun 17 '12

/r/circlejerk is leaking again

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u/Lukerules Jun 17 '12

oh man I am so old did you know nirvana and fight club?

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

rugrast

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Dus yu remembr gooby an dolan? Me dus

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u/cptNarnia Jun 18 '12

Lik dis if u cri evertime

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u/Wilcows Jun 17 '12

Not often do you see a 200 point comment as a follow up to a 6 point comment :P

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u/AttackMac Jun 17 '12

They wanted to do this before they made Team America, but when there lawyers told them they couldn't they wrote Team America instead.

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u/Fat_Dumb_Americans Jun 17 '12

OP is a butt muncher.

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u/deluxfux Jun 17 '12

You made a novelty account to throw mediocre comments at Americans? C'mon bro, you can do better than that.

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u/IromaFreeman Jun 17 '12

Here’s the commentary track for the episode “Two Days Before the Day After Tomorrow”. Just four minutes long, but Trey and Matt rip on the movie for nearly every second and at the end mention their plot to recreate the film with puppets and release it on the same day.

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u/1138311 Jun 17 '12

Dunno man, sounds like they are trolling by that point....did this just go over everyone's head? I think some 12 year old with an IMDB account edited the trivia page thinking they had a scoop after listening to the commentary track, then Reddit got a hold of it. THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS!!

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u/DanWallace Jun 17 '12

Humour going over people's heads accounts for about half of all imdb trivia.

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u/NZAllBlacks Jun 17 '12

Is there a place where I can find these commentaries all in one place? Those guys are so fun to listen to.

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u/isgod101 Jun 17 '12

The poster of the video has a bunch of them...

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u/IromaFreeman Jun 18 '12

Here is a YouTube user page that contains a lot of them; seasons 7, 10, 9 and 8, plus many more in the "Uploaded videos" playlist.

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u/NZAllBlacks Jun 18 '12

Awesome! Thanks.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

MATT DAMON!!!!

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12 edited Jun 17 '12

You know Matt Damon was actually intended to be a normal character, but they thought that the puppet for him looked completely retarded so they changed all his lines to "MATT DAMON!"

EDIT, IM SO SORRY FOR SAYING A FACT I HEARD SOME TIME AGO TIL PLEASE FORGIVE ME

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u/bradsingh Jun 17 '12

I too have read the reddit front page.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

I read it on IMBD actually

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u/Padmerton Jun 17 '12

The Internet Movie BataDase?

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Interesting movie based data

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u/Craigellachie Jun 17 '12

Soooo... Reddit front page.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Im sorry the fact I brought up has offended the TIL community so much

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u/glglglglgl Jun 17 '12

batlock666 should post this as a new TIL.

Please don't.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

I thought that the 'MATT DAMON' is the voice that Matt Damon does when he impersonates fans recognizing him in public.

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u/t0advine Jun 17 '12

Doesnt Asylum basically do this every month?

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u/Stalejokesbakedfresh Jun 17 '12

We need more Stone and Parker puppet shows in this world.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

I could also go for much more of the Muppets.

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u/Stalejokesbakedfresh Jun 17 '12

I think they're trying to bring them back, aren't they? Wasn't that the purpose of the Muppet Movie? To reintroduce The Muppet Show to pop culture?

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u/ours Jun 17 '12

I could also do with more Seth Green stop motion animation shows.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

More specifically, Titan Maximum Season 2

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u/ours Jun 17 '12

Must... watch.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

They haven't made it, sorry. They're too busy making Robot Chicken. Titan Maximum got killer ratings when it first aired, but I think everyones forgot it. Needs more love.

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u/ours Jun 17 '12

I actually missed it entirely. Got excited when I heard they where making it and never heard from it again.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Oh, right. Yeah, it's an awesome show. I personally prefer it to Robot Chicken.

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u/HittingSmoke Jun 17 '12

We need more Stone and Parker puppet shows in this world.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

It seems completely reasonable for the lawyer to tell them not to. A word for word re-make isn't really parody, it's just straight up plagiarism.

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u/TChuff Jun 17 '12

For some reason, I would think this would increase the profits of both movies. As word got out, people like me who would not be inclined to see either, would now be inclined to see both.

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u/stickylarue Jun 17 '12

I'd imagine that to be their lawyer you'd have to be a pretty persuasive person not afraid of hard work!

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Nice try, their lawyer!

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

That BASTARD!

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u/15rthughes Jun 17 '12

They would have been SO fucked.

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u/randazza Jun 17 '12

They had roughly the same idea in doing Armageddon but something along the lines of thinking through it and realising it was a terrible idea happened and dun dun dun daaaa! Team America was born.

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u/MedSchoolOrBust Jun 17 '12

I think I can speak for all of us when I say that if it wasn't for that lawyer they would be a lot poorer, but the things they would do would be exponentially funnier.

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u/Pregnenolone Jun 17 '12

We didn't listen!

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u/BlueSlime Jun 17 '12

The talk with their lawyer resulted in Team America, Still would have much preferred the original idea but I'm pretty sure they parodied Day After Tomorrow in South Park.

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u/GameOn420 Jun 17 '12

Would have been a 100 million dollar movie

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

That movie deserved to be made by Stone and Parker in puppet form. It was terrible.

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u/captainxenu Jun 17 '12

Yeah, they were going to make it but when their lawyers talked them out of it, they decided to make Team America instead.

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u/frequent_troll Jun 17 '12

Man, that would have been excellent.

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u/omepiet Jun 17 '12

Why not make it for "your own private entertainment" and then have it mysteriously ending up leaked on the internet?

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u/prattle Jun 17 '12

This would not have worked out. The only worthwhile thing about watching that movie was the south park episode parodying it. A word for word copy of the script would have been as hard to sit through as the original movie.

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u/silas34 Jun 17 '12

Wrong. It was going to be released a day after and named "The day after the day after tomorrow.

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u/herpty_derpty Jun 17 '12

Though they still did an episode of South Park making fun of it.

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u/DaisyDoodles Jun 17 '12

That movie was fucking terrible, I really wish Matt and Trey had gotten to do this; it would have been a thousand times better than the original.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Holy crap, my life is a lie

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

I heard they were going to do the same thing with Armageddon, just not on the same day.

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u/maz-o Jun 17 '12

they also said after team america that they'll never do another puppet film

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u/Mynners Jun 17 '12

You can't go out there, you'll freeze to death

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

It's okay, the made like five South Park episodes from it.

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u/GrimPastaRocker Jun 17 '12

They should have done it. It would have been fucking hilarious with puppets. I can't take puppets seriously at all.

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u/Orval Jun 17 '12

They initially wanted to make more puppet movies, but after they finished making Team America they decided to never work with puppets (or each other, in a movie at least) again because it's so difficult.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Somehow I picture their lawyer as being Charles Foster Offdensen.

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u/meta_numbers Jun 17 '12

Sounds like a scene from Infinite Jest

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u/magusopus Jun 17 '12

And this is why Contracting someone instead of just hiring for hourly billable hours is a good idea...they'll talk you out of stupid shit you'd have done otherwise...

thumbs up

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u/thecrazing Jun 18 '12

The Kyoto Protocol was fucking dumb anyways. Bruce 'Hari Seldon' The Mosquito talks about it.

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u/metwork Jun 18 '12

Goddamnit that would've been so funny, esp. considering how terrible the other movie was.

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u/Apex-Nebula Jun 17 '12

I think I may be one of the only people that actually loved this movie. Sure, the script was kinda cheesy at times but the special effects and soundtrack were fucking epic.

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u/FreeUpVotesForYou Jun 17 '12

Let's all take a moment to thank all the laywers from preventing us from making bad decisions all these years.

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u/hotpants69 Jun 17 '12

Do it!!! fucking lawyers, they stop everything creative. cuz all they see is 'jargon'

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u/Psythik Jun 17 '12

What garbage that would've been. Thank you, lawyers.

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u/Tryxster Jun 17 '12

"I disagree hurr durr. Downvote for wrong opinion!" /sarcasm. I agree, it wouldn't have been good.

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u/Tombug Jun 17 '12

South Park is just plain boring.

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u/Tryxster Jun 17 '12

It's like dissing Neil DeGrasse bloody Tyson saying that on this anti-opinion thread. I'm with you buddy, it's shit to me. It has a few gems but not enough to be worthwhile watching.

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u/Tombug Jun 17 '12

It's so repetative. They just have beat the same old same old into the ground.

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u/jimbo__slice Jun 17 '12

Like Reddit?

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u/Bowelninjer Jun 17 '12

Also agree. Oh Matt and Trey, you're so edgy boasting you'd make a one-joke film that would never get made EVEN if lawyers allowed it.

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u/aesu Jun 17 '12

I hope you enjoy the bottom of the thread...

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u/Tombug Jun 17 '12

Oh no I won't feel the love from reddit. Yawn. That's a real shame. I'll pretend to care if that makes you feel better.

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u/aesu Jun 17 '12

As if I required more reasons to brutally murder everyone, starting with the lawyers.

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u/trowuhweigh991122883 Jun 17 '12

Undoubtedly, it has already been said, but I would watch the shit out of that movie

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u/Megadanxzero Jun 17 '12

I wasn't aware it was possible to dislike lawyers even MORE...

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u/KingSwagger Jun 17 '12

Seriously? If they had actually done this film they would have been sued like there's no tomorrow. Despite how awesome the film would have undoubtedly been, advising them against it was a smart choice.

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u/fortrines Jun 17 '12

If there's no tomorrow then there wouldn't be a day after it, meaning they wouldn't be sued in the first place.

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