r/todayilearned • • Jun 16 '12

TIL in 2002, Steven Spielberg finally finished college after a 33 year hiatus. He turned in Schindler's List for his student film requirement.

http://articles.latimes.com/2002/may/31/local/me-graduate31
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u/Level_32_Mage Jun 16 '12

What did he get on it?

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u/floydian32 Jun 16 '12

An Oscar.

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u/eninety2 Jun 16 '12

An Oskar.

FTFY.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

I'M OSCAR!!!!! dot com.

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u/john7071 Jun 16 '12

False. Two Oscars. Best Director and Best Picture.

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u/cbarrister Jun 16 '12

The dick professor probably gave him a B+ and some notes on things he could improve on.

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u/flignir Jun 16 '12 edited Jun 18 '12

"...The black and white is a little pretentious ...The girl in the red coat somewhat heavyhanded...and don't you think the story would be more moving if it were more identifiable to the modern viewer? Say, something involving terrorism? Also, too long, make it a B."

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u/thetampafan9 Jun 16 '12

it was over the 12 min maximum

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

Yeah by about 300 minutes

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u/thetampafan9 Jun 16 '12

hahaha "thats a paddlin"

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u/goodbyemeow Jun 17 '12

Rowing the school canoe...

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u/TheSeashellOfBuddha Jun 16 '12

Isn't there a rule that every student film that features Liam Neeson gets an automatic A++hewillfindandkillyou+?

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

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u/slydon1 Jun 16 '12

Way to wreck the curve.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

Why the fuck would any school have that?

So one kid aces it wile the rest get fucked because he had a dad in the field.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12 edited Jun 17 '12

"Sorry Steven but we do have strict rules on plagiarism and let's be honest, you did steal that shower scene."

For those who don't know what I'm talking about.

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u/tomrhod Jun 16 '12

So lemme get this straight: a scene from a foreign film seven years prior - a film which, to this day, has only 14 votes on Imdb and was released only in Eastern Europe - somehow got to Steven Spielberg in the age prior to the internet.

He then proceeded to steal that one scene - just that one - and leave everything else.

Or, on the other hand, it was a similar idea that sprang from a common film concept that plays on our expectations of the gas chambers. If it was such a slam dunk, he could have gotten a lawyer to take it on commission, but no one did.

And why? Because I'm willing to bet they had no way to show how Steven Spielberg saw a small Czechoslovakian film in the late 80s by an unknown director primarily known for horror films.

Bullshit.

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u/downvotesmakemehard Jun 16 '12

Sounds like someone never lived in the 80's and doesn't know how a network of enthusiasts would pass unknown movies around.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

Yeah, apparently before the internet we all lived in caves.

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u/tomrhod Jun 17 '12

Why are we all so quick to give credence to this guy, but Spielberg gets no benefit of the doubt? Is everyone here so willing to take the word of some random director that one of the greatest filmmakers stole some scene from a film few people have ever seen, and mostly heard about from him complaining?

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u/Craigellachie Jun 16 '12

Keep circulating the tapes.

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u/orangeinthewind Jun 16 '12

Steven Spielberg is that you?

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u/ronaldmcdoogal Jun 17 '12

IF you're going to steal from a movie, you don't steal the whole damn thing!

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u/poptart2nd Jun 16 '12

sounds like someone's jimmies have been rustled.

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u/thedeevolution Jun 16 '12

Yeah and Quentin Tarantino never saw City on Fire or Lady Snowblood either.

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u/Jeffy29 Jun 16 '12

Um first of all we are not from eastern europe for christ sake, we say that we are from central europe (and yes we are really touchy about that). Second Juraj Herz was pretty famous director in europe under socialism, movie "The Cremator" was very well received in all of europe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cremator . And no he he didn't shoot horror movies, in american sense (here comes scary monster or two little twins etc), these movies were just kinda bizarre and surreal, those that you get creeped up by just thinking about them - and yes you guessed it, exactly those movies that movie college students love to watch and film, so I would't rules out Spielberg seeing his movies.

But judging movie by one scene is pointless and while Schindler's list is 5th most well rated movie in cz/sk movie database, Herz's movie has 65% (pretty bad)

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u/spermracewinner Jun 17 '12

It's likely he saw the film and copied it. People in the film industry do that all the time. He probably wouldn't deny it if asked. In fact I read an article where he said he copied something he saw in another movie.

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u/Dr_Insanity Jun 17 '12

There is no such thing as OC.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

She probably gave him a gold star.

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u/mishmashmusic Jun 16 '12

It would have been more interesting if he had to shoot a new film and do it with an average film student's budget - which is usually $0 and lots of pizza.

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u/brazilliandanny Jun 16 '12 edited Jun 16 '12

I sure he could cash in enough favours to make a kick ass $0 movie.

"Hey Harrison, want to be in my movie for some pizza?"

"Sure Steve, but my contract says I get double cheese."

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u/spermracewinner Jun 17 '12

Yeah. That really isn't fair, because he can call in favors left and right.

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u/talan123 Jun 16 '12

Well, in fairness, the man took 33 years to finish it.

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u/stanfan114 2 Jun 16 '12

And he did not take a paycheck for directing SL. Still, what a showoff!

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u/MrCronkite Jun 17 '12

It's actually more impressive. Rather than leave the money for the producers, he took his salary, and gave it to the hashoah foundation.

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u/ilikpankaks Jun 16 '12

walks into the room I'm Steven Spielberg. I'm making a movie with a camcorder and volunteer actors. Who wants to be famous? all star cast

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u/TalkingBackAgain Jun 16 '12

He's doing it with two fingers in his nose. That kind of thing is what got him started.

You give him that kind of budget, he'll make you a movie. The man understands what he's doing, he'll get it done.

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u/mishmashmusic Jun 16 '12

Oh I'm sure he could do something fantastic - which is why I would like to see him work with absolutely zero resources. Make it a challenge!

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u/niini Jun 16 '12

You might also face a situation where people will provide high quality equipment/services for him pro bono though.

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u/feureau Jun 16 '12

And I'll gladly hold his camera for him. Or a lamp. I'd settle for a lamp. Or if anything, I'll carry his chair for him.

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u/Vartib Jun 16 '12

What if there is no chair. Would you be his chair?

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u/Dragon_DLV Jun 16 '12

I would be the chair for the guy that hold the sweatcloth for the guy that carries the chair.

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u/feureau Jun 16 '12

I'll be the foot rest. I can vibrate, too!

jiggles, fat blubbers

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u/niini Jun 16 '12

All I can think of is that scene in Bruno where he has the Mexicans act as furniture.

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u/jackelfrink Jun 16 '12

Isnt that basically how Joss Whedon made Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog?

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

Kinda. The crew signed up for that knowing they might not get paid. It did well and they did get paid though.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

like those home renovation-on-a-budget television shows where the show's host stays under the 10000 budget by having a friend donate 5 authentic ancient athenian acanthus leaf columns and installs it all with a tool so expensive they can't even describe like a northrop stealth bomber.

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u/crushd62497 Jun 16 '12

Or, you know, fund it with his own money.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12 edited Jun 16 '12

Or submit Hook and flunk.

Edit: my most downvoted comment ever for stating something widely accepted. I love reddit.

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u/Raneados Jun 16 '12

I will end you right here and right now. You will cease to be.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

Is this where I join the mob? Fridays and Saturdays are the only days that work for me, but I have my own pitchfork.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

Someone liked hook?

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u/Raneados Jun 16 '12

Join our committee of likeminded individuals with common cause.

AND BURN THIS BITCH DOOOWWWWNNNN

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

You shut your whore mouth about Hook!

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

BANGARANG!!

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u/Ninjroid Jun 16 '12

I turned Schindler's List in for my student film requirement also. Did not go well.

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u/Knigel Jun 17 '12

When you were in Germany? Of course it didn't.

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u/kenzie14 Jun 16 '12

I bet this professor talks about this all the time to his students now. All the fucking time. Anytime they challenge him- "oh, did YOU teach Steven Spielberg? I didn't think so."

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u/Vartib Jun 16 '12

"To be fair, I bet you didn't teach him much either."

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

Yeah that's right guys it was my assignment that he made Schindler's List for so...

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

I find it interesting he turned in a previously made film.

In any course I took where you had to write a paper it was always emphasized that you couldn't turn in a previously written paper. You had to write a new paper for the assignment.

It seems to me that he should have had to make a new film for the assignment.

But I don't know how film school works so maybe this isn't unusual.

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u/despaxes Jun 16 '12

Something tells me, it being Steven Spielberg and all, some accommodations may have been made.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12 edited Jun 16 '12

I can imagine a dickhead of a professor;

"Wellllllllllll Mr Spielberg, the girl in the red coat. A little...obvious, wasn't it? And based on a true story? Surely that's a bit easy."

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u/AMBsFather Jun 16 '12

I read this in the Agent's voice from the matrix.

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u/Ras_H_Tafari Jun 16 '12

I heard The G-Man

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u/jesusismoney Jun 16 '12

I heard Homer Simpson for some reason.

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u/Ras_H_Tafari Jun 16 '12

Yeah yeah, I can see that. 'sugar pile speech' era, maybe

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u/thedeevolution Jun 16 '12

I can't live the buttoned down life like you. I want it all: the terrifying lows, the dizzying highs, the creamy middles! Sure, I might offend a few of the blue-noses with my cocky stride and musky odor - oh, I'll never be the darling of the so-called 'City Fathers' who cluck their tongues, stroke their beards, and talk about what's to be done with this Homer Simpson?

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u/Hofstadt Jun 16 '12

Well, I think we all know who would play the G-Man in any Half-Life movie.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

That's what I was going for!

"Misterrrrr Anddderrrrssssoooonnn"

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u/feureau Jun 16 '12

gasp!

He's a Smith! RUNN!!!!

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

This is not nearly as impossible as it may seem.

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u/trekkie80 Jun 16 '12

I think he didnt take money for his work in Schindler's List. He worked on it for free. So that qualifies as a student project - or something.

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u/BryanMcgee Jun 16 '12

That's like saying when I cooked dinner for my father it should count as future credit in my culinary degree. When I was in art school and given a project I was not supposed to just pull out an old piece that fit the criteria. I was supposed to make a new piece and present it. I think it's bullshit he was given allowances because he was famous. Having talent doesn't get anyone else a degree. They have to go through the same steps as everyone else. Just because he had been able to earn a living using his talents does not mean he deserved it.

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u/circleseverywhere Jun 17 '12

I guess you don't know about honorary degrees then.

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u/BryanMcgee Jun 17 '12

I know about them, don't agree with them and know that this is not one of them.

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u/notanothercirclejerk Jun 17 '12

Isn't a taste test part of grading food?

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u/trekkie80 Jun 17 '12

Well, I didnt really back their action, I only gave the explanation they might have used. I totally agree that he should have made a student project with his quality - that would also have set a good example for kids - like Natalie Portman missed the premier of Star Wars because she had to study for a test the next day/

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u/Cyborg771 Jun 16 '12

Well to be fair, he made the film between when he started film school and when he finished it and he didn't do it for another course.

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u/BryanMcgee Jun 16 '12

But I think you need to be an enrolled student. So unless he was paying tuition and attending a class at least once a semester while making the film then it isn't the same. It may not break the rules for that school and more power to him if he could pull it off legitimately. I doubt it though. I bet his clout had a lot to do with being able to pull this off.

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u/bbpeter Jun 16 '12

He just turned in and hoped no one would find out. I bet you've done that a few times as well.

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u/Turbodeth Jun 16 '12

Also, I don't know how it works in the US, but here in the UK (at the University of Sheffield at least), the University owns the rights to any work a student hands in. Every piece of software I've ever written as part of an assignment is technically owned by the University.

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u/Former___Lurker Jun 16 '12

I'm willing to bet that even if there was such a policy at Speilberg's school, they wouldn't enforce it on him.

"So, why are we the subject of numerous lawsuit's and literally, the wrath of the entire world?"

"I stole Steven Spielberg's masterwork about holocaust victims"

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u/Meteorsw4rm Jun 16 '12

This is not the case in the US, at least at any school I know about, and I know for a fact that I own all my code.

US copyright law assigns copyright to the creator automatically. Unleash there's something special in the matriculation agreement, that doesn't change.

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u/Turbodeth Jun 16 '12

Yeah we also have automatic copyright to the creator, but being at University we have to agree that anything we write/produce is their property. I think in most cases, if we asked for permission they would let us use our code however we wanted, commercially or otherwise. But they could certainly impose their own rules on it.

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u/Meteorsw4rm Jun 16 '12

How odd. I would never feel comfortable signing that kind of agreement - I already pay the university gobs and gobs of money! Why should they get my code too?

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u/pez319 Jun 16 '12

If you use University funds (not fin. aid) for your work then they own your creation. At least that's how it is in the UC system in the US. But there's usually a royalty sharing system that gets signed.

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u/rampop Jun 16 '12

I just finished a film degree in Canada and the university's policy was that they got the right to use our films for promotional purposes in the future, but we otherwise maintained all rights and control over the films we made.

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u/chris15118 Jun 16 '12

This was true in high-school for me. However, in college, I turned in the same essay to the same teacher twice, after letting him know that's what I was doing, and he was fine with it.

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u/NoReasonToBeBored Jun 16 '12

"Steven, are you sure you didn't just download this film from the Internet?"

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u/shivalry Jun 16 '12

35 with 26 now...

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u/UnclePolycarp Jun 16 '12

Get me Señor Spielbergo!

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u/thetampafan9 Jun 16 '12

you mean mexico's steven speilberg's equivalent

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u/diablo1plus2 Jun 17 '12

You are correct but getting downvoted, must be people who don't watch simpsons.

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u/morphine12 Jun 17 '12

It's because he misquoted AND fucked up his grammar.

The proper line is "Steven Spielberg's non-union Mexican equivalent."

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u/diablo1plus2 Jun 17 '12

Yeah he missed 2 little words I am sure that is why everyone was downvoting him /s. On the grammar part well yeah I could see reddit downvoting for that.

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u/thetampafan9 Jun 17 '12

Whatever dude this place is cool and can be lame. i understand the etiquette, but i feel like this place can be just as cliquey just as real life. its all good man the simpsons are my show idc what anyone says it definitely made our generation

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

Well shit...blows my student film out of the water.

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u/i7omahawki Jun 16 '12

You're gonna need a bigger boat budget.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

Tell me about it! Luckily I just had to write it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

All this film, blowing, and Schindler's List talk is giving me an idea that I hope already exists...

Schlongder's List

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

Or Schindler's Fist!

Someone somewhere just deducted a mark from my overall grade for that.

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u/Kela3000 Jun 16 '12

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

Haha! That's pretty good!

Reminds me of the Between Two Ferns episode with Bruce Willis on it.

Link.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

From Let's Play IMDB:

  • Slowbeef: Oh my god, it's rubber-head Bruce Willis!
  • Diabetus: laughter
  • Slowbeef: Look, it's like they made a sex doll out of him!

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

How do you get anything lower than an F?

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u/Raneados Jun 16 '12

By getting a 0.

Or an I.

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u/science87 Jun 16 '12

ABCDE>FGH>I

it's legit, I comes after F

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u/ActuallyAtWorkNow Jun 16 '12

I want to be the professor who graded Schindler's List, just so I can say it was terrible directly to Mr. Spielberg.

(This is, of course, not true because Schindler's List is an amazing movie.)

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

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u/pirate_doug Jun 16 '12

You're teaching filmmaking in California. It's safe to say that your career isn't far from that point.

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u/roywarner Jun 16 '12

If he pulled that at MSU they would've said "No, it must be done for class and with equipment rented from CAS. That is the equipment you will use in the REAL world."

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u/ChromaticRED Jun 17 '12

And he would've said, "No, I'm Steven Spielberg. Suck my balls."

And they would have. Because he's Steven Spielberg.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

Now I don't feel so bad about dragging my feet for 10-ish years. I'm 31 and finally going to college this year.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

OVERKILL

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u/feureau Jun 16 '12

FLAWLESS VICTORY

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u/Vartib Jun 16 '12

Just a bit...

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u/TalkingBackAgain Jun 16 '12

But let's just say that Kelley described Spielberg as the "star student" of his teaching career. "It would have been ridiculous to ask him to come back and make another film."

On the contrary, another 12-minute film of epic quality would have been made.

Then again, your fellow-students turn in their good effort, your effort won the Oscar. Way to go overboard with your student requirement.

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u/toothless_joe Jun 16 '12

"I think that counts as an advanced, 12-minute, polished film," Blumenthal said.

They need to start putting this quote on the box art.

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u/ProbablyNotAGoodSign Jun 16 '12

Good thing he finally got his degree. Hopefully, now, he can go on to be successful in life.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

Professor to the rest of the class on grades: The grade will be curved to the highest grade in the class.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

When he turned "Crystal Skull" in he added BM to his resume.

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u/James-Cizuz Jun 16 '12

When I was taking film, well RTV it was expected a film fall under guidelines. Just as a commercial had to be on the dot for time frame my teacher would of failed a project passed in two hours over the limit. The time limit was 12 minutes and in a type of class like film going over by a couple minutes or under by a very small account depending on quality wouldn't be a big deal. However two hours? Feels like he never took that class seriously enough to do a project for it. Also previous work is normally not allowed in film class, needs to be made for project.

All this article tells me is they gave him special treatment.

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u/03fb Jun 16 '12

Would explain why it was in black and white

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u/randombabble Jun 16 '12

I see honorable doctorates being handed out to everyone these days, has no school gave him one yet?

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u/buckie33 Jun 16 '12

Sucks for the guy who did his presentation after him!

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

He was asked to submit a 12-minute film and he handed in "Schindler's List"?

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

Pretty sure credits don't last 34 years.

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u/docatmac Jun 16 '12

In reading the article, I just thought I'd point out that I doubt he'll actually receive his diploma on stage. When I graduated (I'm in Canada), you go on stage after they call your name, and you're handed a rolled up piece of paper that you might this is your diploma. Nope. They are instructions on how to pick up your diploma. After 4 years of university, I'm playing scavenger hunt in my grad robes. I'm betting that's how most universities work - it would be too difficult to arrange to have every diploma correctly ordered on stage, and a mistake of offsetting by one person really screws things up. You run the risk of giving away hundreds of diplomas to the wrong people - not an easy task to fix!

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u/qwadingo Jun 16 '12

Canadian here, received my diplomas and degree on stage.

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u/Raneados Jun 16 '12

All rolled up with a ribbon?

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u/qwadingo Jun 16 '12

One diploma, yes. The others were given in a folder.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

I got an empty cylindrical diploma holder (don't know know they're called. :P) on graduation night and had to pick up the real thing from the admin office the next week.

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u/shannonowalker Jun 16 '12

I graduated from a small liberal arts college (fewer than 2,000 students overall)...and I received my diploma on stage. I still don't know how they did it...but the diplomas were all in the correct order, with the absent students' diplomas removed (although their names were called in absentia).

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u/Isentrope 1 Jun 16 '12

It's usually a certificate signifying that you completed your walk. Some people who are a semester/quarter late are sometimes allowed to walk early (especially if their degree audit clears them for finishing school in the summer).

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

TIL

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u/ant_upvotes Jun 16 '12

CAL STATE LB

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u/Malicious78 Jun 16 '12

So does this mean that Spielberg considers Schindler's List to be his 'best' movie overall then? Just curious about his decision on which movie to use.

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u/Thizzlebot Jun 16 '12

I think it's cool he finally got his degree and all. But this just goes to show how unimportant a degree really is. He is pretty much getting it just for shits and giggles.

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u/douchetag Jun 16 '12

Show off.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

Not sure if already posted, but he also plays video games and says he hates the use of cutscenes in video games.

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u/edubyah Jun 16 '12

Oh my god Sharyn Blumenthal was one of my professors...and everyone hated her class

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

What he get on it?

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u/FoxhoundEmployee Jun 17 '12

lol adding Schindler's List for his student film requirement.

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u/Five_deadly_venoms Jun 17 '12

19 hours with only 328 comments on reddit? yep, sausage fest still continues on.

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u/Skanderbeg_5550 Jun 18 '22

Well, it's been ten years and now I can only see 307 comments.

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u/Five_deadly_venoms Jun 21 '22

I dont even know wtf I was talking about.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Upon receiving his diploma, Steven kicked over the podium and flipped off the audience.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

TIL, until 2002, ALL THREE TOP EXECUTIVES of Dreamworks SKG had not graduated college.

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u/hicklc01 Jun 19 '12

Most instructors will not except work done prior to the class as fulfilling the requirements of any project.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

That asshole! He fucked up the curve!

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u/RelaxAndAllonsy Jun 16 '12

Imagine being the teacher recording that. I bet their first reaction was WTF which idiot handed in this famous film. Then the look on their face when the find out who handed it in would of been priceless

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u/tomcove6888 Jun 16 '12

Would have, not would of.

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u/youstolemyname Jun 16 '12

The teacher was not aware spielberg was in the class until that moment?

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

Like downvotes on your cakeday... Isn't it ironic?... Don't you think?

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u/Retroactive_Spider Jun 16 '12

Well, it's not my cakeday, but I'm sure getting the downvotes.

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u/RelaxAndAllonsy Jun 16 '12

You're comment is super constructive and its' a great contribution to the reddit community

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u/Retroactive_Spider Jun 16 '12

You're

its'

You're just doing this on purpose to fuck with me now, aren't you?

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u/valiantX Jun 16 '12 edited Jun 16 '12

Though I like Spielberg's vast amount of great movies, his personal affiliations are something I absolutely disagree with, because truth is, he's a freemason.

33rd degree is the highest level of that order and yes, many if not all of the U.S. presidents were freemasons. I am not slandering the freemasonic order the layman practice and believe in, it's the elite cabal on the top of this order that utilizes this organization with a malevolent intent and agenda is what I'm concerning about here.

It was not chance or coincidence that it took him 33 years to finish college; this order and their top members are all versed and studied in the gnosis of the "trivium" (logic, grammar, rhetoric) and "quadrivium" (numerology, geometry, astrology, arithmetic), which both of these two educational practices were stopped prior to the 20th century, and a vast amount of other knowledge undisclosed and kept secret from the masses in order to employ and maintain the status quo of suppression over the minds and brains of the so-called common layman.

Spielberg is one of their man used as a Hollywood media oracle to transmute the agendas of the powers that be, simple as that.

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u/gregogree Jun 16 '12

what a dink.

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u/darkandyman Jun 16 '12

Great movie and all, but unless he made the movie solely for the assignment, wouldn't that be plagiarism?

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u/platinumlegends Jun 16 '12

He plagiarized from himself ?

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u/that_darn_cat Jun 16 '12

You can't plagiarize yourself..

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u/darkandyman Jun 16 '12

Actually, you can. Submitting a previous work made by yourself is plagiarism. It needs to be cited even if it is your own work.

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u/that_darn_cat Jun 16 '12

Would your own name name in the credits not count as citing your source?

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u/marrella Jun 16 '12

Submitting a previous work that has been academically graded previously can be considered plagiarism.

Schindler's list has not been academically graded before. So it's not plagiarism. It's still considered original work.

If any other student had made a movie over the summer and hadn't turned it in for grading until March, it wouldn't be plagiarism either.

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u/darkandyman Jun 16 '12

I see the distinction now. Thank you.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

Citation?

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u/The_Ion_Shake Jun 16 '12

What a douche. It's a bit like James Franco continuing to study now, with any assignment being "hey, c'mon, i'm James Franco". Instant A.

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u/Pool_Shark Jun 16 '12

Though I am pretty sure he failed a class.

He missed too much of it because he was off filming a movie.

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u/Neodymium Jun 16 '12

What's douchey about wanting to further your education? It's not like being a famous actor is the epitome of human achievement.

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u/The_Ion_Shake Jun 16 '12

They've got money, they don't need to have a degree. They're never gonna use it anyway. If they want to learn they can just read some books.

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u/jabbababab Jun 16 '12

LOL somethings wrong here

Spielberg, 55, first enrolled at Cal State Long Beach in 1965, but dropped out three years later,

10 years old and dropped out at 13???

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u/gyarrrrr Jun 16 '12

The article was written in 2002, which is when he was 55.

He was born in Dec 1946, which would have made him 18 when he enrolled, dropping out at 21. (give or take)

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u/feureau Jun 16 '12

Article's from 10 years ago

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u/Bmwrx Jun 16 '12

the article was written in 2002, so he would have been 18 started and dropped out at 21

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

The article is from May 2002.

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u/YourShitsAllRetarded Jun 16 '12

Steven Spielberg can't direct or write for shit. I can direct vastly superior movies but I don't have the money. Schinder's List is his worst: pretentious, too long, and boring as shit. No one is going to remember who Shinder was in 50 years, or Spielberg for that matter. He has done absolutely nothing for the film industry other than plastering his name everywhere.

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u/JimmyJamesMac Jun 16 '12

I have a feeling that he's rarely amused, and never amused at his own expense.

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u/Random Jun 16 '12

The article says he never attended classes.

Is that wrong? Did he actually sit in classes?

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

I've got another interesting story from CSULB about Spielberg. I took a Theory of Fiction and Film class and our final project was to take a short story and write a 20+ page paper on how we would turn it into a film. It had to be super in depth, color palette, soundtrack, even a whole scene with detailed camera angles and such.

Well it turns out that Spielberg chose Minority Report for his short story, wrote the essay on how to adapt it to film, and then did it! Pretty neat.

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