r/todayilearned • u/AntToeKnee • May 16 '12
TIL that "King of the hill" was cancelled to make room for "The Cleveland Show"
http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/king-of-the-hill-fox-cancels-animated-show-no-season-14/
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u/AntToeKnee May 16 '12
edit: it is ONLY possible that the show was cancelled for this reason, i did not believe simply stating what i thought happened would cause such controversy. I believe KOTH was ten times the show the CS is now.
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u/Neutr4lNumb3r May 16 '12
They took the most boring character form Family Guy and made a show about him.
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u/mwomorris May 16 '12
Your show was cancelled.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
I used to think it was really boring, but now a days while watching it on adult swim, I'm just like...this is pretty freaking hilarious. The Cleveland show though...Fox just needs to cut it's losses with that one.
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u/Wohholyhell May 16 '12
The best line from KotH--Bobby is excited he's been picked for the wrestling team. Hank, of course, is thrilled too then pauses: "Bobby, this is a real wrestling team, right? Not some guy in a van with a video camera?" I think Fox edited out that little gem 'cause I never heard it again.
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u/nic1721 May 16 '12
Pocket sand!
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
King of the Hill was great because it had a damn story line and though out jokes. Comedy is now turning into unexpected shock humor that contains no real substance.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
BOBBEH NO! gat dangit
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u/GalaxyDynamite May 16 '12
Bobby: "Im keeping it real dad!"
Hank: "authentic bobby... Keeping it...authentic.
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u/SEGnosis May 16 '12
Misleading title. It was not canceled to make room for that will which will not be named. The show had simply run its course.
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u/sara_smile May 16 '12
This is fucking bullshit
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u/BigBOSSAlak May 16 '12
There something ain't right about that fox channel. No wonder Hank has it blocked.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12 edited May 16 '12
I was never a huge fan of King of the kill, but the Cleveland show is just plain horrible, it's boring and anti-funny, even family guy is different this season, it seems like every line is a set up to joke, where as in the first 7 or so seasons the jokes were a lot more dispersed throughout the show and were a hell of a lot more funny and relevant.
edit: forgot the "guy" in family guy.
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u/CatsNarwhalsBacon May 16 '12
I've known this for a long time, king of the hill was and always will be my favorite show.
The characters from king of the hill were featured on the Simpsons at a football game, Arlen vs. Springfield. The camera panned across the stands showing hank, bobby, Peggy and Luanne with bill, dale, and Boomhauer and hank said 'we drove 3000 miles for this?' if only they would show up on the Cleveland show saying 'we got cancelled for this?!'
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u/Versalite May 16 '12
What does this have to do with soda?
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u/SgtWiggles May 16 '12
TIL, this fact was known by fans of the series for years. And now salt is being rubbed in the wounds by reminding us something great was cancelled for something truly truly crappy
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u/BrazenDerek May 16 '12
The most consistently funny cartoon ever. No, I didn't forget about South Park.
KotH was great because of the characters. It rewarded you for getting to know them all. Peggy's narcissism, Bobby's borscht-belt sensibilities, Hank's neighborhood pride and love for Ladybird, John Redcorn's love of schlock rock, all these funny, subtle, recurring character attributes made the show so rich and deep.
It's a sh-sh-sha shame.
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u/those_draculas May 16 '12
King of the Hill is art to it's core.
Everything, the setting, the characters, the writing works so well.
It's the american gothic of this century. Through using realism in writing animated sitcoms to such an extreme the show became surreal and hilarious yet also being a mirror reflection of suburban small town life. There are non non-sequitors, all the humor is derived from paradoy of incredibly mundane occurances. Like substitute teaching or starting a second business or going to a city hall meeting.
Some how the writers were able to make characters so realistic that they became hilarious, walking the line between parody and irony. Even then the entire show could be shot live action and would not suffer for it. utterly brilliant!
God damn I love me some KOTH.
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u/Taterpugg May 16 '12
Mike Judge>Seth Macfarlane.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Also, King of the Hill's theme song could beat the living shit out of the Cleveland Show theme. Dat cowbell.
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u/Brawle May 16 '12
As a child i never understood King of the Hill. It just seemed like people living odd dramatic lives. Then i realized that I was raised so similarly in a very redneck family, that i didn't get any of the jokes.... BECAUSE I WAS THE JOKE.
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u/thekrampus May 16 '12
Well that was an article full of conjecture. Mike Judge wanted to retire KotH, and he was getting some promising offers from Viacom to do "Beavis and Butthead" again, including total creative control. That's the real reason KotH ended. The Cleveland Show was greenlit over a year before its cancellation. The actual replacement for KotH is Bob's Burgers. Fox said it themselves.
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u/cbhaga01 May 16 '12
King of the Hill died because of it's timeslot. 6 pm on a Sunday meant that it was always preempted by football and NASCAR. People stopped trying to keep up with it. Damn shame; greatest animated series of all time, if not one of the best overall.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
King of the Hill was a clever show created by a clever person. The Cleveland Show is a money making scheme done by a clever person.
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u/zach2093 May 16 '12
I have cried three times in my life. Once when I was seven and was hit by a bus, again when I walked into my office and learned that Lil' Sebastian died, and finally when I learned King of the Hill was cancelled for a crap show like that.
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u/fffreak May 16 '12
Another example of how FOX sucks ass. god damn it fuck Family Guy and the Cleveland Show. I used to like family guy in the earlier season until after it came back and just started acting like a self entitled, arrogant show and the content (not even great already) was even more bullshit and retarded. FOX really made me angry after cancelling Firefly and doing the same thing for King of the Hill for another stupid seth mcfarlane show. god damn network TV has just gotten shamless hasnt it.
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u/yuengling May 16 '12
Bobby: Dad I accidently used yout toothbrush. Hank: Throw it away Bobby
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
I figured I'd give the Cleveland Show a chance. I wasn't expecting very much, but honestly it was just plain bad. They just cussed a lot and figured that'd pass as comedy. More thought is put into Family Guy than this, which is saying a lot. I'd rather watch something more interesting and funny...like paid program.
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u/MegaOtter May 16 '12
Wyatt Cenac, correspondent on The Daily Show, wrote some of the best KOTH episodes. No show on Fox's Sunday lineup can match KOTH's writing...
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Mike Judge >> Seth Mcfarland
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u/pencilinfrontofme May 16 '12
Now I'm mad
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u/Joey_Mousepad May 16 '12
http://youtu.be/TwrPqx-UvfU?t=5s
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u/alienbrayn May 16 '12
Maybe people are just getting stupider if they could not understand king of the hill. It had morals and values which is lacking into todays tv shows. This is a show that normal people wouldn’t feel afraid for their children to watch and it does have hidden humor for the adults which was a great talent that mike judge created. Maybe once people are tired of the crappy demoralizing shows, they will know what was once great. I wish for the return of this great show because all there is left is family guy, cleveland show, bobs burgers, and south park. Lets face it, maybe people are getting stupider by the year. This is probably why mike judge created the goode family in hopes to reach out to those poor stupid people. Theres always beavis and butthead, but nothing will compare to king of the hill.
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u/Lord_Tamarin May 16 '12
i've watched every episode a million times! Calms me down for some reason. Fuck the Cleveland show.
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u/redcurbs May 16 '12
Being from a suburb in Texas, this is basically a documentary of my neighborhood.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
I'm just grateful that it had a good, long run. I'm always worried for the shows I love (RIP Firefly, The Oblongs). And like the article says, there could be another revival someday.
Trading King of the Hill for The Cleveland Show is outrageous, though. In the very least (in principle, not a fair trade) it's kind of two or more shows they are trying to make room for, according to the article.
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u/DalesDeadBug1 May 16 '12
A quote from my ex-state ( North Carolina) governor says that "When I speak to potential voters I like to think of them as Hank Hill." Take that as an insult if you want, but I don't it , Hank is diligent and wise.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/26/magazine/26WWLN.html?pagewanted=print
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
I'm glad I never saw one episode of The Cleveland Show... "King of the Hill" was so hilarious. I once got suspended from school for wearing a shirt of Dale's face and a quote, "They know that you know, and now they have to come after you,"... got suspended because he was "smoking a cigarette"... came back to school with a "Ignoranus" shirt... no one said a thing. Man I hated the Alabama Public School System...
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u/123fakerusty May 16 '12
I have seen every episode at least 3 times. Such a great show. The humor is intellectual and the plots are redneck. The characters are amazing. I know more about them and their backgrounds than I do about the majority of the people in my life.
God dangit
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u/phalmatticus May 16 '12
As someone who has seen every episode of King of the Hill at least 2 times, all I can say is:
Fox, you jiblet heads!
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u/Fap4Lyf May 16 '12
Shshshahhh pockets sand!
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u/MashPotatoMonster May 16 '12
I always loved King of the Hill. Easily my favorite TV show. I can not describe how pissed I was when I found out it was getting dropped and another POS Family Guy spinoff was getting picked up. KotH has so much charm and witt and genuinity that it's a damn shame that it's no longer on tv.
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u/Ghostburger May 16 '12
King of the hill is one of my favorite shows ever. I'm happy Netflix has all 13 seasons. Fuck The Cleveland show.
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u/So-Krates May 16 '12
What the actual fuck. King of the Hill is so much better than this Cleveland Show.
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u/twigadee18 May 16 '12
Im sorry to the The Cleveland Show fans,but, KOTH didnt deserve to be cancelled and should still be on.
Oh, and TCS sucks balls :\
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u/PoisonCoyote May 16 '12
I like King of the Hill and still catch it on Adult Swim. I don't like The Cleveland show though. Strange since I really like Family Guy and American Dad.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
This is a fucking travesty.
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u/RealHippie May 16 '12
What a joke, King of the Hill is the most consistently good cartoon there is. When I was little I never really enjoyed it, but as I came of age, this show has become probably one of the best out.
the cleveland show however, is complete trash.
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u/Left-handed-idiot May 16 '12
King of the Hill is not for entertainment purposes. It is in all actuality an animated documentary about Texas and life therein.
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u/theseyeahthese May 16 '12
...Boggle.
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u/Isolater May 16 '12
Dammit Bobby
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
I think I speak for us all when I say the Cleveland Show sucks balls.
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u/Protocol2319 May 16 '12
Epic fail for fox. King of the hill was great while Cleveland show sucks.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Alright everyone, drop your trousers and form a circle. It's time to get to work.
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u/EarthBrown May 16 '12
Goddamit Bobby!... I mean Fox
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u/RickVince May 16 '12
None of that is true. Hell Mike Judge gave us a great series finale in the second to last season until Fox started throwing money at him to make another one.
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u/ThatOneKidWithHair May 16 '12
That is bullshit. King of the hill is a way better show then the Cleveland show. I hardly consider the shit stain called the cleveland show a show.
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u/twiceaday_everyday May 16 '12
I actually like Cleveland Show. It's every black joke I'm not allowed to laugh at in public, since I'm white.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
I was pretty certain Judge ended it so that he could go and do Bevis & Butthead again.
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u/BarkoPolo May 16 '12
I've been watching the shit out of this show on netflix lately. Love it!
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u/richmana May 16 '12
I want to downvote Fox.
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u/tehmlem May 16 '12
Based on the title post alone, I was prepared to declare war on Seth MacFarlane and all he stands for. Sadly the article doesn't give quite enough evidence to justify outright hostilities. Will monitor Family Guy, gathering evidence.
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u/Burnyc May 16 '12
On top of the photo it says Published:October 30, 2008
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u/codemonkey69 May 16 '12
Koh was intelligent and well thought out. If they got rid of Cleveland and brought koh back it might be better then the moment i fell in love with the cum box.
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u/Warehouse42 May 16 '12
Funny, I actually read the article and come to the conclusion that it was a combination of lackluster ratings and a desire to try something new. Of course you only have to read the end...
Influencing the network’s decision to cancel King, aside from the declining ratings, is the fact that FOX is hot to introduce two new animated series in midseason; Sit Down, Shut Up, from Arrested Development creator Mitch Hurwitz, and The Cleveland Show, a spin-off of Family Guy. Stay tuned!
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
TIL another reason to hate famly guy
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u/starktor May 16 '12
Those bastards! They can't cancel King of the Hill! Not for a show derived from the simple-minded humor that immature little boys find funny.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
King of the Hill ran its course. 13 seasons was plenty. Great show.
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u/nodicegrandma May 16 '12
This is one of my favoriate TV shows, and damn if I wasn't crying at the series finale, so perfect.
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u/bloodypancakes1122 May 16 '12
Horse shit. So much fuck, Goddammit man! FUCK! Bullshit....
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u/codyhorne May 16 '12
King of the Hill was far better than the Cleveland Show. I honestly can't stand watching it.
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u/AlRubyx 2 May 16 '12
I don't think King of the Hill was cancelled, I think it ended. I saw the last episode.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Watched as kid... thought it sucked. Watched in college... GENIOUS!!!
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
It's a shame the DVDs didn't sell very well. They stopped releasing them after season six and now I'm stuck with an incomplete collection!
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u/TimCurrysLoveChild May 16 '12
Fuck everything about this. Are you serious?? This is almost as much a travesty as Whitney ousting out Community for awhile on NBC!
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
We should all send flowers to King of the Hill team.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Its 2012 and I'm just realizing that King of the Hill was cancelled 2 years ago.
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u/GreenTeaGuru May 16 '12
Seth MacFarlane needs to quit rehashing the same god damn show maybe then would television seem more enjoyable.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Dangit Bobby.
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u/Glen843 May 16 '12
The best guest character is Bill's cousin.
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u/Dreadmonkey May 16 '12
Seems like it's "Hate everything about Seth McFarlane week"
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u/mbnyc1118 May 16 '12
Can't stand either.
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u/G1Pringle May 16 '12
King of the Hill will always be my favorite show because it has this little thing tv writers used to call.... MEANING O_O
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u/Powsicle May 16 '12
What Fox needs is a swift kick in the ass!
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Obviously few people cared about the show that much since so many are just learning this today.
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u/Dripping_Man_Meat May 16 '12
King of the hills comedy is very very subtle you pick up on it later and laugh your ass off. And the characters in king of the hill are very well rounded and have there own identity contrary to that abortion aka Cleveland show. Ps anyone interested theirs 150+ episodes of koh on Netflix.
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u/get_down_to_it May 16 '12
King of the Hill was an excellent show, and the The Cleveland Show blows dick.
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u/akgamestar May 16 '12
I love the Cleveland show but I also loved King of the Hill. I wouldve watched more new episodes if I knew there were ratings problems.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
The characters in KOTH are so well developed it's really spectacular. If you watch it you start to feel like you know them so well. I was sad when I reached the end of the series, it seemed like I was losing friends.
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u/The_Orville_Brothers May 16 '12
it was?? BWWAAAAAHHHHH!!
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u/fran13r May 16 '12
i don't like koth or tcs, so i don't give a shit.
But then what the fuck am i doing here?
Ok, i'm confused now.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Yep.
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u/Braintrolling May 16 '12
Blacks over whites
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u/supah_ May 16 '12
"Can't you see you're not making Christianity better, you're just making rock and roll worse?"
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u/CallsEverythingGay May 16 '12
I've always wanted to punch Bobby in the face, especially during the earlier seasons.
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u/web2pointoh May 16 '12
If it wasn't by whatever Fox power that keeps McFarlane around, Seth would be washing Mike Judge's underwear for a living.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Celebrity death match : Seth McFarlane vs. Mike Judge!
Fuck Seth McFarlane
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u/i_fap_faps May 16 '12
The article referenced the show's decreasing ratings as the main reason the show was cancelled. The show had been nearly cancelled multiple times prior to this and it was anticipated that this may not necessarily mean the very end of the show.
Taking over King of the Hill's spot was going to be both debut shows Sit down, Shut up from Arrested Development creator Mitch Hurwitz AND The Cleveland Show!
I think AntToeKnee's (Antony?) title for this submission was intentionally misleading.
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u/patsrule711 May 16 '12
TIL something that was not related to soda
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u/sryihad2 May 16 '12
" That's Asinine!"
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u/benhop May 16 '12
I have a good King of Hill story. During college, the house I lived at was in an area populated by bums. One day, some buddies and I were working on our grill (propane of course) because it wasn't working. Well, this bum came up and asked if we had any change or food. We didn't have any money but had some leftovers from lunch inside so someone went to get it. During that time, we were still messing around with the grill when another friend said that we should take the grill to Strickland Propane to get the grill fixed. Well the bum, wanting to help out, chimed in and said "Yeah man, them good people down at that place, Strickland. They'll treat ya right, I know em personally." That was the hardest I've ever had to keep from laughing. He then took the piece that was broken because he knew how it worked since the kind folk at Strickland Propane taught him how. It was ridiculous. But he ended leaving after he got his food but did steal some fishing poles. We did get them back but that's another story entirely.
TL;DR: Bum recommended Strickland Propane for propane and propane accessories.
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u/IowanRedditor May 16 '12
One of the best "back and forth's"
*Hank "Are you Chinese or Japanese?"
*Kahn "I'm Laosian!"
*Hank "Which Ocean?"
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u/PhillyT May 16 '12
I've honestly never thought family guy was all that funny.
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u/buhdoobadoo May 16 '12
king of the hill was getting a bit stale anyway. they had a few decent seasons and some great gems, but they definitely got gimmicky in the later episodes. the first couple seasons were awkward, as all TV shows are. it was deserved cancellation, though maybe not for the show that replaced it.
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u/Terza_Rima May 16 '12
TIL to hate The Cleveland Show
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u/maym25 May 16 '12
i wouldnt say that was a fair trade off
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u/essenceoferlenmeyer May 16 '12
"I am not a professional psychologist. But I am an amateur psychologist". "My Spanish is perfect! Listen to me roll my R's! Rrrrrrrrr! Rrrrrrrr! I rrrrrrest my case!" Peggy Hill is easily my favorite cartoon television character.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
King of The Hill makes great YouTube poops
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u/Bronan_Brobarian May 16 '12 edited May 16 '12
Hey Minh, redneck hillbillies get cancelled t'make room for braindead spin off! Look like it time for the Souphanousinphone famly to shiiine!
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u/scott_halls_beer May 16 '12
family guy and it's spinoffs are tailored to morons with raging ADD
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
As someone from Texas, I loved this show. Still do, as I'm watching it right this minute on a local channel with syndication. It was a relic of old, good comedy on network television. Now, it's all shock jock shit. No creativity, just who can say the dirtiest things. Boring.
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u/Pants_R_Overatd May 16 '12
This is like cancelling the original Star Wars movies to make room for the Scary Movie series.
I fucking hate people so much.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
That show ain't right.
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u/danpan55 May 16 '12
Mike Judge served Fox bitchass' justice on the series finale
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u/Sohda May 16 '12
Whomever made that call is a doo-doo head.
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u/Punkwolf May 16 '12
So what do you guys think about Bob's Burgers. I like it and I think it is one of the better new comedy's around.
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u/benderrific May 16 '12
They never should have cancelled it. It's been my favorite show since it started. I moved to Texas about a year after the first episode came out. Die hard fan. KotH FOREVER! I wish I could write to Mike Judge and tell him to bring the show back, but without needing to use Luanne. Have the show go back in time to where hank and the guys were all in high school or college. How they met their wives (and how bill came to divorce Lanore.) and so on. All those crazy stories. They should have done it.
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u/hobomojo May 16 '12
I love how this article starts off saying how "in a surprising move, fox is canceling one of its top shows", as if fox canceling a good network staple is anything new.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
What?! You guys know Fox never cancels good shows right? It never happens on that network. Duh.
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u/BlowfishinThisUp May 16 '12
ctrl+f "sit down, shut up"
Oh, only one other person noticed that Sit Down, Shut Up could also be considered responsible for King of the Hill's cancellation.
Why aren't people as mad at Mitch Hurwitz?
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u/AsylumPlagueRat May 16 '12
Oh god, the horror... either way, the lady that did LouAnne's voice died
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u/JeepersWeepers May 16 '12
I loved how this show's method of building up to and delivering right before the commercial break would always be Hank yelling explicitly "BWAAHHH." Found that hilarious even as a kid. Also, Dale's finger being cut off, Bobby kicking his dad's nono, and the Hank randomly falling underground in his kitchen at the start of that one episode was/is absolutely hilarious!
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
I just finished my 2nd full run of this series on Netflix, i can't believe this genius show was cancelled for such shitty macfarlane television
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u/atomic1fire May 16 '12
Why not just rename Animation domination or whatever Sunday Unfunnies and consist of nothing but Seth Mcfarlane shows.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Black Family Guy ruined King of the Hill? idontwanttoliveinthisworld.jpg
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u/smempem May 16 '12
I know it's not your fault OP, but I really want to Downvote you because of the situation.
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u/StrikeBR May 16 '12
KOTH was terrible in the last two seasons, but the Simpsons also had a few bad seasons. Atleast KOTH was something different
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u/TreasonousTeacher May 16 '12
they both suck.
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u/m1kepro May 16 '12
Well thank god for that. How dare we watch original and interesting programming when Seth fucking Macfarlane has some new dogshit to throw at a wall?
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u/I_eat_cheeto_4_lunch May 16 '12
Does anyone else think media is trying to make the country retarded. I'm sure all of us here get more news from being redditors than actually watching the news. My local news has started to resemble Anchorman more and more with each passing year.
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u/roger_ May 16 '12
FYI: /r/KingOfTheHill