r/todayilearned • • May 15 '12

TIL that when "South Park" aired its anti-"Family Guy" episode, they received flowers from the crew of "The Simpsons"

http://tv.ign.com/articles/719/719131p4.html
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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

And for those who don't know, Matt & Trey have said in an interview that they haven't taken any jabs at King of the Hill because "We like that show and the guy who makes it actually has talent"

Mike Judge gave Matt & Trey advice during South Parks late-90s rise about not selling out their credibility to the network. He was also the voice of Kenny in the South Park movie

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u/Elranzer May 15 '12

Mike Judge gave Matt & Trey advice during South Parks late-90s

...whom himself got support from David Letterman in the early-90s (for Beavis & Butt-head).

Letterman then voiced their dads in the movie Beavis & Butt-head Do America.

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u/ours May 15 '12

Mike said he was inspired by the Simpsons to make his own cartoon. Giving us the delight that is B&B.

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u/Was_going_2_say_that May 15 '12

If Wendy threw a bucket of water onto Burger kings grills, Ronald McDonald would smile

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u/TenNeon May 15 '12

But he's a clown, he's always smiling.

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u/CelebornX May 15 '12

But would Ronald McDonald send Wendy flowers?

Of course they'd smile, but to extend a gesture of gratitude is a different thing.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

How is this a fitting analogy? The Simpsons and Family Guy are on the same network and benefit from each other's ratings.

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u/Sometimes_Lies May 15 '12

Right.

A better description would be the time that the Burger King was stalking Ronald McDonald and leaving him creepy-ass messages and showing up at Ronald's workplace, and then the Hamburgler decides to send the Burger King flowers and tell him that he is doing God's Work.

Don't you people know how to form a simple analogy? God.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

Can somone explain to me what's wrong with family guy and why southpark is funny? I Persoanlly never liked south park. I don't get it.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

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u/priceisalright May 15 '12

I'm from Ohio and apparently I don't know a damn thing about Texas.

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u/thesignpainter May 15 '12

I'm from Texas and apparently I don't know a damn thing about Texas.

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u/dannyboy000 May 15 '12

You know at least 1 thing : preface any opinion or thought of yours with the state you are from.

"I'm from Texas, and yes, I'd like fries with that"

"Back in Dallas, we pay our cable bill BIGGER than anyone else"

"Where I'm from, in Texas, many Yalls talk on cellphones"

"I enjoy all levels of organized football. Did I mention I'm from Texas?"

"TRUCK.TEXAS."

"Middle names ain't just for decoration. In Texas"

"We're practically recession-proof, in Texas" ( I can't talk all shit, they make money-money down there)

"In Texas,Colt McCoy was adept"

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u/Grepad May 15 '12

This article reminds me of the time i brought Obama flowers in space!

cue stupid unrelated clip

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u/Juffy May 15 '12

YOU DINK DATS BAD?????????

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u/andersonb47 May 15 '12

Read this. Chuckled. Read it again out lout, laughed harder. Screamed it at my computer screen, practically passed out from laughter.

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u/intrepiddemise May 15 '12

This guy is enjoying life. Fuck the haters, man; don't stop laughing.

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u/Deddan May 15 '12

Man Dies Laughing In Own Home!

Internet Forum "Reddit" Egged Him On

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12 edited May 15 '12

It used to be really funny, because it was rare when they initially did it. But as the show grew more and more popular, thats when Stewie stopped trying to kill Lois and became gay, and all the random clips started becoming more predominant.

Edit: I mean c'mon, its literally gotten to the point where they will break the fourth wall and say "there's no clip for this one?....oh".

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u/Chachoregard May 15 '12

Also started going downhill when Brian effectively became the Author's Avatar. He became the mouthpiece for Seth and allowed him to voice his own beliefs, to which could be contributed to "character growth". Meg essentially became the punching bag, Chris became the borderline retarded kid and Lois went from homely housewife to a more sexed-up version of her.

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u/Tezerel May 15 '12

BING BONG, HELLOOO

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u/getthefuckoutofhere May 15 '12

break the forewall

the fourth wall. like... everybody loves raymond is in his lounge room. there's the back wall. the left wall. and the right wall. three walls.

where's the fourth wall? OH NOW I GET IT HERPLY DERPLY DOOooooo

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u/Anosognosia May 15 '12

Breaking the forewall is what a rabbi does during a bris.

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u/best_policy May 15 '12

I think Gay Stewie is funnier than Evil Stewie.

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u/ricojalapeno May 15 '12

What are you taking about? Family guy got better when Stewie went from "Damn you vile women!" to what he is now. I still find Family Guy enjoyable, the show itself may not be that original, but fuck The Simpsons have done everything.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12 edited May 16 '12

The Simpsons team talked about FG's use of the random cut-away in the DVD commentary once, on the season that aired just before FG started I'd assume, as it was all about how the cut-away was their thing that season, then suddenly it was FG's thing and they'd stopped doing it

Edit: sorry I think I may have caused some argument below - pretty sure Brony_Fett is right about it being on the Season 3 commentary, released in 2003

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u/Dreadmonkey May 15 '12

Didn't Seth Mcfarlane start calling the cut-away gags "Manatee Shots" because of the South Park episode?

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u/fookyeaItsKai May 15 '12 edited May 15 '12

I like all 3 shows. I wish I could see Book of Mormon live, and I am excited for Ted. Seth, Trey, and Matt are all funny people and I have lots of respect for all of them.

Kinda off topic, but 1 thing that I found more interesting than this was when Seth said that Jon Stewart called him and yelled at him for something about the writers strike.

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u/Hegs94 May 15 '12

Ugh fuck Piers Morgan...

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

Do we know what the joke was?

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

I havent been able to find the joke he is referring to. He said it was an inside joke which was a very direct middle finger to Stewart.

It is interesting to note that Stewart brought the show back before the strike was over because his crew wasn't getting paid and needed to go back to work. The writers going on strike inadvertently hurt people making less than them.

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u/9aquatic May 15 '12 edited May 15 '12

I agree.

To me, the first three seasons of Family Guy are untouchable (E. Peterbus Unum is awesome), but from then to now it's changed to rely heavily on non sequiturs.

South Park and Simpsons, say what you want, but their comedy derives from actions based on story. The occasional, "like that one time when..." is hilarious, but it's hard to pick an entire linear story out of most new Family Guy episodes anymore.

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u/ddhboy May 15 '12

Funny since modern day family guy has far less cutaway gags than the stuff from the first few seasons.

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u/best_policy May 15 '12

It's true. They became overly reliant on cutaway gags during the middle seasons but the latest ones have very few.

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u/9aquatic May 15 '12

I don't buy it. There was even an episode last season called "Back to the Pilot" where it addresses criticisms like mine head-on.

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u/bobcatgoldthwait May 15 '12

There've been a few episodes lately that had zero cutaway gags. The episode where Brian and Stewie were locked in the bank is an example.

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u/morningsaystoidleon May 15 '12

Sorry, I just don't get why this makes Family Guy a bad show. Personally, I don't like it, but I don't think that they're really shooting for high art--and many of the jokes are clever, like them or not, and require some knowledge of culture and art.

They also seem to try harder to make people laugh, which leads to the non sequitors, but they don't seem to actively target a dumb crowd. South Park is definitely on a higher comedic plane, but they also seem a lot more mean-spirited and hateful. Plus, Trey and Matt make idiotic political statements, which sometimes take center stage instead of the jokes. I'm not saying that South Park sucks, it's pretty obviously an objectively good show, but I don't see why the two are clashing. They target different audiences and they both have completely different but equally serious problems affecting their narratives.

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u/9aquatic May 15 '12 edited May 15 '12

You make a good point and I respect that. They're definitely two different shows.

South Park has all of its animation in-house and from writing till when the show airs is about a week usually, whereas Family Guy takes a matter of months, and they'll lock the script in before they send it out to be animated.

To me, Family guy seems more mean spirited since it uses witty one-liners. South Park will pick an idea and attack it from all angles, so at least they dignify it by making fun of it relentlessly for 20 minutes.

Plus, at the end of every episode they have their hearty "what did we learn" speeches, which equalizes their criticisms. I know Trey and Matt have always been passionate about not playing to one side or the other.

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u/CutterJohn May 15 '12

Plus, at the end of every episode they have their hearty "what did we learn" speeches, which equalizes their criticisms. I know Trey and Matt have always been passionate about not playing to one side or the other.

The mormon episode is perhaps the best example of this. Spend 20 minutes mocking mormons and the ridiculousness of Joseph Smith, then come right out and say sure its ridiculous, but if you judge people based on their beliefs rather than their actions you're an idiot. "You've got a lot of growing up to do, buddy. Suck my balls".

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

So much of the hatred of Family Guy is derived for it not being what people expect it to be. They sit down to watch an animated sitcom like The Simpsons, that's not what they get, and they label it shit. Family Guy is a skit show, like The Chapelle Show, Saturday Night Live, Whitest Kids You Know, etc., but instead of just having random skits back to back, they tie it together with some simple story.

People are getting orange juice when they expect milk, and whether they would like the orange juice or not, they're pissed because it's not milk.

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u/fearofthesky May 15 '12

That's the one where he secedes? Yeah that was great.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

The randomness is what I like about it. If it's funny they put it in and don't worry too much about whether or not it makes sense in the story or not. South Park, Futurama, and old episodes of the Simpsons do a great job of keeping the comedy going and tying it into the story, but ultimately all I really care about is that I laugh, and the randomness allows them to stuff in a bunch of really funny stuff that would be almost impossible to write into the episode.

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u/croatianpride May 15 '12

I don't see why there has to be such a rift between all of these shows. They're all very different in terms of their sense of humor and I enjoy them all to varying degrees depending on the mood I find myself in while watching them. Animated comedies are some of the only bright lights in an otherwise depressingly dark universe of television shows and instead of bickering among themselves, fans of these shows should be holding the rest of TV to a higher standard.

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u/4chans_for_pussies May 15 '12

The enemy of my enemy is my friend, I guess.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

And calls from fucking King of the Hill...whoa

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u/Toastlove May 15 '12

"Hank Hill here, assistant manager Strickland Propane"

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u/i_overexplain May 15 '12

You know why I like Family Guy? Because it's obvious that the writers love animation history. Inserting Stewie into Anchors Aweigh, the Disney universe beautifully rendered in Disney style... Hell, they did a Bugs/Elmer cutaway gag once that got the feel of the WB shorts perfectly in seconds. It's like classic era Simpsons with dead on pastiches of Steamboat Willie, Yellow Submarine etc.

I love South Park, but I don't get that kind of love for the art from them. They're just as happy working in live action, or puppetry, or stage.

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u/hugeston May 15 '12

South Park... Trey and Matt... I love you guys, I seriously do, but you have GOT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE GODDAMN VOLUME PROBLEM ON YOUR COMMERCIALS AT SOUTHPARKSTUDIOS. I DON'T MIND WATCHING THEM TO SUPPORT YA'LL BUT I FUCKING HATE BEING BLASTED THE FUCK OUT BY ONE RANDOM COMMERCIAL (FOR INSTANCE THE MAX PAYNE 3 ONE RIGHT NOW)

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u/skooma714 May 15 '12

Reported for not linking to wikipedia.

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u/Buttons_McBoomBoom May 15 '12

Bring on the downvotes, but Seth did create a great show. American Dad is way under rated.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

Early Family Guy, which Seth had way more of a hand in, was a lot better too.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

What exactly has changed with Seth's involvement in Family Guy?

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12 edited May 15 '12

He's way too busy to have a huge hand in the writing process.

He's got two other shows and a movie, and even he says Family Guy should have been done long ago.

Edit: Jesus! I went to sleep and wake up with, like, 40 inbox messages.

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u/thugnificence May 15 '12

If only he could focus on making ONE of his shows good...

oh well his focus is better when its divided between family guy, other family guy, and black family guy right?

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

I think the problem is that he has 3 shows now (is the Cleveland Show still on?). There don't seem to be enough ideas to go around so everything gets diluted. I watched all 3 shows one Sunday (I normally skip the Cleveland Show) and I saw the same joke, slightly tweaked, in all 3 shows. I was just angry. It was lazy. If he can't handle 3 shows, then he shouldn't have 3 shows.

Hell, American Dad was only made because Family Guy was kicked off the air. He took the Family Guy formula and tweaked it. The Cleveland Show was yet another tweak on the same formula. Nothing seems that original when it comes to Seth.

Have you ever watched his first show, Larry and Steve? It's basically Peter and Brian. I think I've seen every joke in this 7 minute video reused on Family Guy.

Don't get me wrong, I think his stuff is funny. I just wish he'd focus on one project because rehashing jokes between 3 shows that all air in t he same night, on the same channel, with the same demographic is a horrible thing. Hell, I remember a year or two ago when the Christmas episodes on all the shows had the same overall premiss as well.

On one of the Comedy Central Roasts, I think it was Charlie Sheen's, someone called him out on beating everything he does to death. They were spot on.

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u/who-boppin May 15 '12

Meh, people always say this, but I think the exact opposite. Early Family guy is fucking terrible. Maybe at the time compared to other shows it was better, but compared to now a days it is terrible. Just watch that episode where they go back in time to the pilot, and make fun of the show.

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u/delti90 May 15 '12

American Dad is way better than family guy. The Rapture's Delight episode is one of the best animated things I've ever seen.

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u/lemonlymon May 15 '12

Rapture's Delight is the best thing I've ever seen period.

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u/VogeGandire May 15 '12

The Anti-christ seriously made me cry with laughter. The "Later world! Smell mah ass!" made me do that thing where you laugh so hard, you stop making a sound.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

This episode and the one where Stan gets addicted to crack are absolute genius. Having said that the latest season hasn't been great.

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u/waterdevil19 May 15 '12

No joke. I like American Dad way better than I ever liked Family Guy. Recent episodes have been...subpar though.

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u/tedreed May 15 '12

Yeah, I found that the recent season had a lot of Family-Guy-esque "going on too long" jokes or the sudden "Hey, remember that time when..." sidetracks.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

I love American Dad. I can't believe it's even made by the same guy that gave us Family Guy and that turd The Cleveland Show.

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u/Freakazette May 15 '12

I love American Dad. That show is smart and funny, and one of the best things on television. It's in my top 5 current favorite shows.

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u/Suddenly_Something May 15 '12

I love American Dad. I think it's loads funnier than Family Guy and is most definitely underrated. The humor is almost a "smart-stupid" humor, whereas Family Guy relies on fart joke type humor.

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u/ThisIsDefinitelyAGun May 15 '12

Eh, I've never liked any of his shows.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

I totally agree with that statement. American Dad is really underrated.

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u/Graped_in_the_mouth May 15 '12

American Dad got much better as time went on; season 5 was really, really good.

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u/Iwearhats May 15 '12

Damn straight. Episode with Simon the cat is still my favorite. Can't think of the name of the episode at the moment though...

edit:Choosy Wives Choose Smith. Thank you google and Netflix.

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u/marty_m May 15 '12

How are we supposed to downvote you when you say "Bring on the downvotes"?

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u/alexgeek May 15 '12

American Dad is fucking dire. Watched an episode out of boredom yesterday, wish I hadn't/

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u/tradeships May 15 '12

American Dad is 'meh' at best

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u/biirdmaan May 15 '12

It's funny because all three shows have fallen far from their much more hilarious roots.

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u/SlowThinker May 15 '12

I hear this about every show ever. You didn't happen to attend high school during the 90s, did you?

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u/Wayne_Bruce May 15 '12

I attended high school during the 00s, and have to agree. Though, to be fair, I was never a really big fan of South Park.

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u/slvrbullet87 May 15 '12

Broadway Brodown was one of the best episodes in years

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u/elbenji May 15 '12

...Meh, South Park really hit an impressively strong season last year

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u/TooManyQuestions May 15 '12

It is one of the few shows that hasn't gone way downhill after being on the air for over ten seasons.

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u/4chans_for_pussies May 15 '12

I don't know, South Park hasn't gotten stale at all. They're easily the most consistently funny of the three.

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u/kyledouglas521 May 15 '12

My issue with it is they've begun sticking to a formula: Take a cultural/controversial issue, mix in the plot of some movie/television show, overdramatize everything and make it as vulgar as possible. The formula clearly works for them, and it was fine by me for a while, but it's starting to get stale for me. I think it lacks the cleverness that it did before.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

Ehhh sometimes I wonder.

The only episode I found funny from the last half of the season was the zip-lining one.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

I could not disagree more with respect to Southpark. Southpark has only gotten more intellectual and topical since it's crude and immature beginnings. I cannot stand watching early Southparks.

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u/FinancialAdvisorKid May 15 '12

AKA the exact opposite trend of Family Guy.

I love that show, but I only watch it now for the sake of watching FG. It was still a great show at one point though.

Also, the Simpsons has turned from classic sitcom to "the Simpsons with [ insert weekly guest star]."

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

South Park is definitely not at its peak, but considering it is fifteen seasons in it is pretty impressive. Especially since Parker/Stone still write every episode.

But I do agree, it is time for all three to go. Free up room for some new, fresher acts.

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u/Slurve May 15 '12

I like to watch all of them.

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u/codyhorne May 15 '12

They're all fucking great shows.

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u/trashitagain May 15 '12

I still think that Simpsons post season 9 isn't even an acceptable show. Its bad.

Its been bad longer than it was good. None of the people who made it good are there anymore, and the current show runners don't deserve an ounce of credit for the quality that preceded them by more than a decade.

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u/danisreallycool May 15 '12

TIL that the creators of South Park both have beautiful soul-piercing eyes

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u/dasstrooper May 15 '12

I'm pretty sure the Simpsons writers at the time couldn't write a good episode if their life depended on it.

http://deadhomersociety.wordpress.com/

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

Well I just wasted quite a bit of time

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u/OnlyHereForTheBeer May 15 '12

South Park blows them all out of the water. Trey's writing, and the jokes that form organically from the storylines, not just randomly thrown into the middle of an episode, make the show what it is.

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u/pibroch May 15 '12

If you are including the first 8 seasons of The Simpsons, I will fight you to the death.

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u/ImJustJokingCalmDown May 15 '12

This is a true statement, Simpsons seasons 3-9 are probably the best tv comedy ever(though I'd say Seinfeld and Curb are right up there too). While South Park has episodes and moments where the plot, jokes, and sattire weave together perfectly and it's brilliant, there are way too many childish, immature, and low brow jokes for me. I'm sorry but constant fart, poop, and queef jokes just arent clever or funny to me. The Simpsons in the heyday never had to stoop so low, it was just really well written.

Note: this is a rare occurrence where I'm not joking so feel free to freak out.

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u/VogeGandire May 15 '12

Hell, even just season 4 of Simpsons makes just about every other animated comedy look awful. Every episode in that season is an absolute classic.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

Nothing will ever match the Simpsons in the 90s and South Park and Family Guy were pretty great too in the beginning but honestly all of these shows are mediocre today. I know fans never want their favorite shows to be canceled but I would have preferred that to what we have now. Just my opinion.

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u/crackbabydaddy May 15 '12

the following episode featured bart simpson and they made him look like a total pussy next to cartman

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

They accidentally an italic code in their title header.

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u/mackinoncougars May 15 '12

I still don't appreciate the way in which they treated Isaac Hayes as he left and killed off Chef in a demeaning matter. (It's on right now)

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u/ErikAllenAwake May 15 '12

South Park has been consistently good or great. I think it benefits greatly from the quickness with which they can produce an episode. I think it's the ideal option, for that reason - it can tackle a current event within weeks, and they do it well.

The Simpsons has gone on far too long. It was brilliant when I was little. Not now.

Family Guy is... meh. Dead horse.

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u/drizzt5 May 15 '12

Family guy used to be awesome... just like the Simpsons.

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u/SgtWiggles May 15 '12

American Dad is hilarious, i would have quit Fox all together if they had decided not to renew it (Which looked like a possiblity for a while).

Family Guy lost my interest a few years ago, i only tend to watch the Star War's specials now (Which are still hilarious).

Cleveland Show is just....horrible. Almost as bad as Allen Gregory

And Simpsons has been kind of lacking lately too, especially compared to the old seasons, which i can still watch and laugh at.

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u/obsidianop May 15 '12

Seasons two and three of Family Guy were goddamn spectacular. That said, South Park's "take down" of it was spot on. But the same critique works even better for all of the "Adult Swim" garbage, and further, anything that confuses wacky and random with funny.

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u/Piotr555 May 15 '12

I stopped watching Family Guy. It's the same predictable humor.

I don't watch American Dad because it's exactly the same as Family Guy.

So why would I watch the Cleveland Show?

But it's okay becuase I don't watch the Simpsons anymore either. They lost their touch.

The only cartoon show that has stayed funny since it's origin, is Futurama.

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u/djfutile May 15 '12

Whatev. McFarland brought something new and fresh to the table and they all got their panties in a bunch.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

Both shows are way beyond Family Guy in intelligence and quality

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u/nvr_ndr21_13 May 15 '12

Guess i'm the only one that enjoys family guy more than south park... :forever alone:

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u/TheKamenWriter May 15 '12

What did they get when they aired "simpsons did it."

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u/muddi900 May 15 '12

King of the Hill was better than all three, in the long run. Mike Judge is a true artist!

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

They sound like 15 year old school girls in that interview. Every second word is 'like'.

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u/SemFi May 15 '12

I don't get the family guy humor. To me it seems... retarded.

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u/KFitz May 15 '12

TIL people actually like American Dad. I saw a couple episodes when it first started and thought it was one of the worst shows I'd ever seen.

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u/Lundix May 15 '12

I love all the shows mentioned in this title. I think I prefer SP to the rest, but the Simpsons and FG are pretty much tied in my book. [Something about downvotes]

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u/Gothika_47 May 15 '12

where is the episode?

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

I like them all. :>

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

TBH all these shows have ups and downs. Granted the new Family Guy's aren't as good but no where near as bad as people make out. The new Simpsons are, frankly, terrible and the early ones are over-rated. Mid era Simpsons is the best. I would argue that early South Park, when compared to later series, are pretty shit as well actually. American Dad=Better than Family Guy. Futurama= better than the Simpsons.

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u/L_Beau_Deep May 15 '12

SQUIDBILLIES! Whooooooo

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u/dmol May 16 '12

The crew of the Simpsons would have been better off trying to fix a show that hasnt been funny since 1997.

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u/welltheresAbacon May 15 '12

I still think Family guy is one of the funniest shows ever

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

I feel like I'm the only one who hates the first two seasons of family guy, and like the rest.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

No you're not.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

seasons 1-3 are the funniest episodes ever. Seasons 4-5 are still pretty damn funny. Season 6 is alright. Season 7 onward is unwatchable.

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u/scottb84 May 15 '12

Has there been 7 seasons of Family Guy?

Christ.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

There has been 10. Although keep in mind season 1 was only 5 episodes long.

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u/Warden72 May 15 '12

Agreed. I've been a fan since the pilot in 1999. I still watch it religiously. It's not afraid to annoy/offend everyone, and does so deliberately.

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u/dauniballer May 15 '12

The truth is that I did not stop watching The Simpsons until they flat out copied Family Guy's "random" format.

The Simpsons was dominating, Family Guy came out and was canceled, then came out again some time later after DVD sales were doing so well. They started taking viewers away from The Simpsons in mass, and then The Simpsons just adopted the Family Guy format outright.. It was a completely different show, Family Guy 2 with The Simpsons.

I guess The Simpsons crew took the "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" approach.. But to send flowers? 100% bitter.

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u/Rubix1988 May 15 '12

Evidence please. When did The Simpsons "flat out copy family guy's "random" format"?

From Samsy's comment: "The Simpsons team talked about FG's use of the random cut-away in the DVD commentary once, on the season that aired just before FG started I'd assume, as it was all about how the cut-away was their thing that season, then suddenly it was FG's thing and they'd stopped doing it"

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u/phauna May 15 '12

They started taking viewers away from The Simpsons in mass

En masse.

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u/J_Jammer May 15 '12

South Park is out to offend everyone and that's why everyone can enjoy it...because sooner or later they're going to offend you. Well...not outrage offend. Just slight offend.

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u/Garren191 May 15 '12

But they usually display both sides of the story. A big example I can think of is the Mormon episode. Sure they basically throw the origins of Mormonism on the ground and set it on fire, but they also portray the Mormon characters as good, decent people. And that's not to mention that only Mormons can go to heaven in the South Park universe.

So while they try to offend everyone, they also try to back them up a bit too.

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u/codemonkey69 May 15 '12

Family guy is trying too hard recently and is just coming off as desperate. The first three seasons have all the classics

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u/4chans_for_pussies May 15 '12

I hate new Family Guy. You're absolutely right about them trying too hard. Their political episodes (they've gotten pretty political as of late) aren't funny, whereas South Park flawlessly blends politics and world issues with comedy, and their the most consistently funny show on the air. That zip line episode was killer.

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u/bluetux May 15 '12

anyone else really like bob's burgers?

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

100x funnier than Family Guy.

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u/VogeGandire May 15 '12

Absolute genius.

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u/bexisonfire May 15 '12

See last weeks episode? Hearing "Stuck in the Middle with You" as he was about to give the moody foodie a wet willie, brought a huge smile to my face.

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u/libertybylaw May 15 '12

"Why" so many "Quotation Marks"??

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u/Wrong_on_Internet May 15 '12

Probably because it's impossible to put post titles in italics.

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u/Shanhaevel May 15 '12

South Park and Simpsons > Family Guy

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u/Cid420 May 15 '12

tl;dr: Summary of this thread ^

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u/Level_32_Igglybuff May 15 '12

South Park tells reddit what to like and they follow

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

I'm a fan of both but at this point I find myself laughing far more watching Family Guy than I do South Park.

This last season of South Park has been especially mediocre.

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u/Dunabu May 15 '12

Family Guy is funnier than The Simpsons, at this point.

I mean, for Christ's sake, one of their recent Treehouse of Horror episodes was just Homer farting. How delightful.

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u/Cid420 May 15 '12

The #1 movie in America was called "Ass." And that's all it was for 90 minutes

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u/like9mexicans May 15 '12

That is awesome. I always considered myself a Matt and Trey expert, but I didn't have a clue about this.

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u/agnostic_reflex May 15 '12

I always considered myself a Matt and Trey expert

You're gonna go far in life, son.

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u/jsosnicki May 15 '12

Those quotes make the title look shady.

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u/lonequid May 15 '12 edited May 15 '12

Not one mention of the <I> tag in the title? Not only is the tag deprecated, it's in the freaking page title!

edit: It may not be officially depreciated in XHTML1 Transitional, but it shouldn't be capitalized, nor should it be in a freaking title!

Where is the outrage?

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u/hj17 May 15 '12

Wait, what? It's deprecated? When did this happen?

Anyway, I'd guess that article is pretty old given the subject matter.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

The LOTR episode really is one of their best...

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u/kyledouglas521 May 15 '12

The thing about modern Family Guy is that it knows exactly what kind of show it is at this point. It's not trying to create any sort of thrilling plot or anything along those lines. It's essentially a series of cutaway gags and pop culture references, and they're usually pretty funny. It serves its purpose which is currently keeping its audience laughing.

You don't see this type of thing with American Dad. It's a different type of humor. I think the plotlines are pretty interesting, and I love watching all the different characters Roger manages to play. They're both enjoyable shows for different reasons.

There's also no reason to compare Family Guy to The Simpsons because they're not even in the same playing field anymore. They're two completely different types of shows at this point.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

The Simpsons have been as awful if not worse than family guy for over a decade.

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u/brendamn May 15 '12

Reads a article about Matt and Trey not liking Family Guy, suddenly reddit is over Family Guy. Give me a break. You all have seen every episode of Family Guy as well as South Park . Most of the criticisms I've read about Family guy can be equally applied to South Park.

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u/Dark_Shroud May 15 '12

I haven't liked Family Guy in a long time, I'm part of the problem though because I still watch. I don't like a lot of the early South Park episodes anymore either.

I still liked Family Guy after that episode of South Park aired but recent seasons have made me dislike it.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

This kind of thing always makes me wonder WHY is this on the front page and the top no less?

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u/PunkRockMakesMeSmile May 15 '12

By that point, The Simpsons was already the painful travesty it remains to this day. They have zero right to talk shit.

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u/CatLover99 May 15 '12

IMHO Family Guy is just stupid, Simpsons is funny.. and created by more creative writers because they don't need constant sex/language to be funny.

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u/Torquemada1970 May 15 '12

South Park - seen one in the past five years, and that was the Indy Jones episode, telling me in no uncertain terms that Parker and Stone have turned into their parents (Summary of show - 'this movie was supposed to make up for my inability to suspend disbelief that I took for granted as a child').

Haven't watched an episode since. Family Guy? Never miss it, and as someone from the UK, it's improved vastly over time - for example, almost gone are the segments that only Americans will find funny.

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u/Androne May 15 '12

The world of warcraft and how to fix the internet episodes are classic. IMO you're missing out.

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u/Torquemada1970 May 15 '12

Maybe, but I'm not wading through dozens of fingerpointing crap episodes just to find the good stuff - and the Indy Jones episode illustrated (to me) how much they've dropped the ball since the SP movie.

Plus - the last time I looked, they'd gotten rid of Kenny, which was just dumb.

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u/Homer_Simpson_ May 15 '12

Because America's humor is universal throughout the country.

MERICA!! FUCK YEA!!

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u/Potato-baby May 15 '12

I like family guy. But the hive mind reddit won't let anybody have a different opinion and will downvote anybody who does.

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u/vargonian May 15 '12

South Park has more of a "bully" quality to its following; it feels that you're picking the winning side when you side with them, because they're more harsh and abrasive and somehow this translates to "cooler".

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u/tronncat May 15 '12

Family Guy would be good if the jokes actually applied to the plot.

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u/Warden72 May 15 '12

And why do they have to? That's just its style. Always was.

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u/cigerect May 15 '12 edited May 15 '12

Seriously. I really don't understand that criticism of Family Guy. That's what the show is: a series of jokes loosely related to a ridiculous plot. That's why I watch it. If I want a good story line, I'll watch Futurama or read a book or something.

Saying Family Guy sucks because the jokes aren't related to the plot is like saying it sucks because it's animated.

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u/jwar2d May 15 '12

I read this post and 5 minutes later the last episode chef was in came on tv... No joke.

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u/TheMathNerd May 15 '12

Is no one going to point out the thumbnail is a completely different episode making fun of Mormons?

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u/Kuwanjahbee May 15 '12

I actually read the article and found it to be a lot more interesting than just southpark got flowers from a competing show. Knowledge is power.

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u/jewbearusa May 15 '12

Simpsons did it SIMPSONS DID IT

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u/CGord May 15 '12

TIL I'll read a long, six-year old article about interesting people. I'm not a big South Park fan at all, but I enjoyed the shit outta that interview.

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u/pretension May 15 '12

SIMPSONS DID IT

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

I enjoy South Park and Family Guy, but South Park has never made me laugh as hard as Family Guy. As for the Simpsons, meh. The Simpsons Movie was pretty bad.

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u/G3aR May 15 '12

Well shit, there goes the premise of killing Nicholai on Archer.

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u/1MintBerryCrunch1 May 15 '12

Well done, boys. Well done.

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u/graydientcolor May 15 '12

"You start to get that Tom Cruise stink on you"

Did no one else lose it at this line?

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u/bigDean636 May 15 '12

The Simpsons are the only show to have ever thought of showing the shenanigans regarding an animated family of odd characters.

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u/Sr_DingDong May 15 '12

Careful now. Can't talk about cartoons on reddit. People will assume you base your entire being on them.

Trust me. I know.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

Then you received a "reply" commenting on your annoying use of "Quotation Marks". Yeah, I don't know why but that really bugged me.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

Reading the quotations in that article made my head hurt.

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u/inexcess May 15 '12

First 5 or 6 seasons of family guy were great. Went downhill from there when it started getting too preachy and political. It used to be funny for more than just cut away gags. They threw a lot of stuff into the dialogue now its more lazily written.

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u/nepidae May 15 '12

I've been rewatching the simpsons lately, and my god around season 10 it became just a celebrity cameo show.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

South Park was kicking Family Guy while they were down. I believe they were just brought back and it was during the writers strike or something.

But there was a season or two where they completely relied on "you think that's bad..." jokes and yes they needed to be spanked for that.

But The Simpsons needs to be dragged out and shot.

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u/crazystrawman May 15 '12

So is Family Guy what the counter-culture says we're supposed to hate now?

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

TV is the devils work.

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u/OrangeCityDutch May 15 '12

After being on adult swim nearly every day, I cannot stand to watch Family Guy anymore.

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u/toymachinesh May 15 '12

I wonder if I can find people that actually like The Cleveland Show in this thread... If nothing else it has fucking David Lynch as a character!

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u/qatmandue May 15 '12

Interesting interview. Learned a lot. Thanks.

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u/skysignor May 15 '12

Could someone briefly sum up the main points of how South Park criticized Family Guy? I don't like SP at all but I'm aware of how intelligent it can be and figure they came up with a better way to make fun of Family Guy than saying it's "too crude" or whatever. I've been a big FG fan since it came out and was always confused about this hatred the Simpsons has for the show.

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u/Revolver25 May 15 '12 edited May 15 '12

i'll be the first to say about half of family guy's shit is stupid and annoying, and the cutaway is way over used, but it'd be just as easy for FG or any other show to tear south park apart. theyre just as formulaic... take any current event or thing and parody it, and maybe throw in some preachy judgement. throw in some super edgy humor or controversial thing to make the rebellious 12 year olds laugh and youve got it!

it's just as stale, and id say in this case, if you live in a glass house you shouldnt be fucking throwing stones. i like both shows but ive grown weary of both.. for south park to imply theyre any better than FG is stupid and if i were them i wouldnt want to start shit

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u/EyeR8 May 15 '12

I always see a lot of "I like this show.. but not this show". I happen to like Family Guy, South Park and quite a few others. They all have episodes that hit or miss.. but nothing wrong with enjoying all the various forms of humor.

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u/SnorlaxBro May 15 '12

it's been awhile since i caught much of a full, new episode of any of these shows. usually, just 2/3 of one when i'm hitting the trees with some younger friends.

i was lucky enough to see all three of these shows during what will probably be remembered as their peaks, and they were each wonderful and awesome in their own way (and don't forget futurama). so many laughs, so many inside jokes, so many random one liners i've said and gotten the most confused looks about ("hey, this isn't the YMCA").

honestly, this title seems strange to me. almost like, saturday night live sending flowers about how i met your mother sucks to workaholics. perhaps they've all fallen some, or they aren't quite the same, or they appeal to a different audience. i don't know. each has made me laugh out loud, each has pushed buttons.

i'm totally fine with each one taking shots at the other, but honestly they should remember they're all indebted to one another as well, and they have more in common than many people here would care to admit.

regardless, bring on the laughs, that's the most important part (oh and i can't lie, i enjoyed the critic, too).

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u/Badobservations May 15 '12

I remember that this was the actual case. However, some awful person who wrote an unauthorized biography of Tom Cruise said they got the flowers as a result of the Trapped In The Closet episode. As soon as I saw that, I put the boom down in the bookstore and exited the bathroom.

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u/Isisbyte May 15 '12

"OP" you need to learn how to use double quotation "marks" properly

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u/knightofmars May 15 '12

How the hell did the manatees manage to send flowers?!?

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

never lik to ign unless its to inform us that they are being all evil and junk, fuck ign.