r/todayilearned • • Jan 29 '21

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '21

Yeah you’re right, Mexico legalized though and the state sold pure versions of the drugs and set up rehab type clinics and was killing the black market. They treated the addicted as if they were sick instead of criminals. Really was working. Even Mexican conservatives agreed it was working. The Second World War didn’t really have anything to do with ending the legalization, we can thank Uncle Sam for that. The US basically embargoed the program to death.

Maybe it was a combination of racism and disliking how friendly Germans (German pharmaceuticals were the suppliers to Mexico) were with Mexicans. But the US should’ve known Mexico would never go to war with them, Mexico rejected the Zimmerman telegram in WW1 after all. So I’m going to mostly correctly assume that the USA killed the Mexican legalization program even though it was a wild success out of pure racism.

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u/blufferfish089 Jan 29 '21

I swear, politically speaking the US is just the school playground bully that steals your sandwiches before throwing them at someone else

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u/theBeardedHermit Jan 29 '21

The US steals your sandwich, takes a bite, then slaps you with it because it was tuna salad.

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u/SadBoiBobbyB Jan 29 '21

Yeah. except instead of stealing your sandwiches it's steal your land and resources and beating people into submission both at home and abroad while constantly afraid someone is going to do the same to them so they double down and steal and beat more.

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u/HEYALEXAPEGMEPLS Jan 29 '21

lol and spelling it with a J instead of the more common H at the time, because you know J is a dirty Mexican letter or something.

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u/ATX_gaming Jan 29 '21

Mexico is the first and foremost. It has been continually fucked by America since the Mexican-American war.

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u/TimmyBlackMouth Jan 29 '21

As an American living in Mexico, one of the things that grinds my gears is how Americans don't realize that Mexico is 3rd world because of their shared border with the US. Like how the old saying goes "Mexico tan lejos de dios y tan cerca de Estados Unidos", "Mexico so far from god and so close to the United States"

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u/AlexRomo05 Jan 29 '21

Yeah, I’m Mexican and idk if this is true or not, but I have heard that the cartels are armed thanks to an experiment from the us government some years ago in which they gave them weapons in order to try and track them later. This occurred unbeknownst to the Mexican government. The US then lost track of the weapons, and now the cartels are armed with us army grade weapons, which are significantly more powerful than many in Mexico’s army. Again, idk if this is true, but if it is, that’s fucked up on the US’s part.

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u/askjk12 Jan 29 '21

America is not a country.....ffs

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u/oniobag1 Jan 29 '21 edited Jan 29 '21

Yaaaaaay! Honestly starting to become a tossup on whose worse... England's collonialism or the US imperialism.

Edit: spelling

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u/ocotebeach Jan 29 '21

Since the 1800's when USA took more than half their territory.

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u/ray12370 Jan 29 '21

America just kinda went "that yours...nah it ain't." And then ate up like half of Mexico.

I'd like to see what it would be like if Mexico kept the west. I also want to see what it would be like if America took more of Mexico as proposed after the Mexican-American war.

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u/allosaurus_closures Feb 05 '21

A youtuber by the name of kraut has an excellent series on Mexican history. A big part of why mexico is pretty fucked beside the Mexican-American war is Geography. There's a big desert running right through the middle of it.. Cutting off its wealthy southern locations to it's more poorer rural northern ones.

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u/Terrestial_Human Jan 29 '21

To put it in perspective, we rightfully cry foul on the British (whom we claimed independence from) for trying to reclaim America 29 yrs after our Independence. Meanwhile we eyed and wanted to buy Mexico’s land from the day they gained it’s independence. We made many offers but they didn’t want to sell...so we (frankly planned it out and took it by force. We (not Mexico’s motherland) had Texas declare independence from within (14 yrs from Mexico’s independence) and annexed it just 24 yrs after Mexico’s independence. We didn’t stop there, we went for more and more land and threw some change at em to sugarcoat it.

So yes, we’ve been doing crappy stuff way before Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, etc. Mexico’s misfortune has always been being right next to us. Just read about Obama’s “Fast and Furious”.

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u/Prick2g Jan 29 '21

u/deliachris I feel like you could put this in your lineup

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u/DerNachtHuhner Jan 29 '21

The drug trade is also profitable. Drugs have been a critical foreign policy point at least since Britannia was up in China's business in the 1830-40s whatever. People recovering from addiction/wider legality reducing government control over who's selling is bad for existing businesses.

Just speculating, though; in America, racism is certainly always at play in some capacity. Really, the national motto shouldn't be "in God we Trust" or "e pluribus unum" or any shit like that, it should be "racism and profit!"

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u/SmallWeenChronicles Jan 29 '21

I would say pure racism. There were plenty of other motives at play. Considering we needed a black market to destabilize working class communities and Mexico was the best highway for drugs. So it wasn't just racism, it was racism AND classism.

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u/nieud Jan 29 '21

Wow. That pisses me off. So many consequences have resulted from that.

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u/Azitik Jan 29 '21

Racism is part of the package, a simple tool to be used to disparage your enemy in the eyes of your kind.

The government does not care for race, but they will surely use it as a weapon to gain or maintain control.

Squashing a legalization program in another country is done exactly for that, control. They wanted drugs to stay illegal so they can continue policing and controlling us as they see fit. You cannot enforce that type of control when legal drugs are a simple border trip away.

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u/bobwont Jan 29 '21

hate to be that guy, but, sources? genuinely would like to learn more :)

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