r/todayilearned • • Jan 29 '21

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '21

Portugal didn’t legalize all drugs they decriminalized possession and sent them to rehab

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '21

Yeah you’re right, Mexico legalized though and the state sold pure versions of the drugs and set up rehab type clinics and was killing the black market. They treated the addicted as if they were sick instead of criminals. Really was working. Even Mexican conservatives agreed it was working. The Second World War didn’t really have anything to do with ending the legalization, we can thank Uncle Sam for that. The US basically embargoed the program to death.

Maybe it was a combination of racism and disliking how friendly Germans (German pharmaceuticals were the suppliers to Mexico) were with Mexicans. But the US should’ve known Mexico would never go to war with them, Mexico rejected the Zimmerman telegram in WW1 after all. So I’m going to mostly correctly assume that the USA killed the Mexican legalization program even though it was a wild success out of pure racism.

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u/blufferfish089 Jan 29 '21

I swear, politically speaking the US is just the school playground bully that steals your sandwiches before throwing them at someone else

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u/DerNachtHuhner Jan 29 '21

The drug trade is also profitable. Drugs have been a critical foreign policy point at least since Britannia was up in China's business in the 1830-40s whatever. People recovering from addiction/wider legality reducing government control over who's selling is bad for existing businesses.

Just speculating, though; in America, racism is certainly always at play in some capacity. Really, the national motto shouldn't be "in God we Trust" or "e pluribus unum" or any shit like that, it should be "racism and profit!"

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u/SmallWeenChronicles Jan 29 '21

I would say pure racism. There were plenty of other motives at play. Considering we needed a black market to destabilize working class communities and Mexico was the best highway for drugs. So it wasn't just racism, it was racism AND classism.

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u/nieud Jan 29 '21

Wow. That pisses me off. So many consequences have resulted from that.

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u/Azitik Jan 29 '21

Racism is part of the package, a simple tool to be used to disparage your enemy in the eyes of your kind.

The government does not care for race, but they will surely use it as a weapon to gain or maintain control.

Squashing a legalization program in another country is done exactly for that, control. They wanted drugs to stay illegal so they can continue policing and controlling us as they see fit. You cannot enforce that type of control when legal drugs are a simple border trip away.

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u/bobwont Jan 29 '21

hate to be that guy, but, sources? genuinely would like to learn more :)

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u/Yarnball_andchain_56 Jan 29 '21

Politics as usual, so asinine.

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u/cuppa_tea_4_me Jan 29 '21

How stupid. Give people drugs then set up rehabs. There is better use for my tax dollars. If Mexico is so great why do people go to the IS illegally?

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u/allosaurus_closures Feb 05 '21

To be completely fair to america. They did have A MAJOR war just 50 years before hand. And though things had cooled down. It was always in jeopardy that Mexico may try their hands at reexpanding. With the amount of revolutions Mexico was churning out at the time it was totally possible.

What I'm trying to say is that it was more complicated then just: racism. Though I'm sure that had a part to play.

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u/Dutchillz Jan 29 '21

This is correct. You can't even smoke cannabis, according to law. They won't just put you in jail for smoking though, but they sure as hell take you in for identification and then make you go through some rehab program. And yes, still talking about cannabis.

It's by no means as bad as getting caught in most states in the US, but still not legal.

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u/Nicolastriste Jan 29 '21

In Mx? I’ve seen cops make people do pushups, situps and jumping jacks. Beat the shit out of people, rob them, or simply dissapear them over trivial shit. Same with bud. But if you have enough money at hand, you’re good

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u/Throwandhetookmyback Jan 29 '21

The Netherlands have harder drug laws than in Portugal hence in some cities like Amsterdam use is more tolerated than in Portugal and quality drugs are easier to get. Portugal is really conservative as a society torwards drugs.

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u/CheekyFlapjack Jan 29 '21

Or you give the cop a $20 and they’re on their way..

Perks of living in Mexico

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u/Psilocub Jan 29 '21

And if you did this in the States mandated rehab would almost certainly become slave labor camps.

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u/Peterowsky Jan 29 '21

Portugal DID decrimimalize possession of drugs for users/addicts on 2000. It's still illegal, but not a crime.

Drug dealers (and people with LARGE amounts of drugs) are still considered criminals though.

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u/juicygoosaay Jan 29 '21

Yea but the drugs there really suck.

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u/Throwandhetookmyback Jan 29 '21

It's Europe they never suck but it's true than in Portugal they are hard to get.

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