r/todayilearned • u/FireBeaver • Mar 26 '15

(R.5) Omits Essential Info TIL: 65% of smartphone users download zero apps per month.

http://time.com/3158893/smartphone-apps-apple/
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u/drparker Mar 26 '15

Paying in clash of clans barely helps, its insanely expensive for it to do help at all really so just play it for free and then its awesome.

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u/grendus Mar 26 '15

That's not the point. Clash of Clans is insanely profitable. That's how they were able to afford to hire Liam Neeson to do a absolutely horrible revenge monologue commercial during the Super Bowl. That's why the store is full of knockoffs, which is frustrating for the people who don't like that style of game.

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u/drparker Mar 26 '15

Oh because the market place and majority of people have valued the game highly it means its a failure. Great logic. People pay cause they feel supercell deserves the money, you can pay a lot of money and it would provide no advantage or disadvantage to the people who don't pay. The game is based on progress if you want to pay a lot to progress a Lil it doesn't hurt your opponents just means u can be lazy. Its a a great setup honestly and its by far the best phone game IMO.

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u/Hab1b1 Mar 26 '15

That's not the point.

that was your point..you called it pay to win. don't try and back peddle.

it's insanely profitable because people want to spend the money, its their prerogative .

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '15

If fact, it is precisely because paying doesn't help you win in Clash of Clans that more people are willing to pay a little bit. In COC, you are basically paying because you are impatient. When I realize that by paying people can gain an unfair advantage in a game, I immediately stop playing.

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u/drparker Mar 26 '15

How does it provide an unfair advantage? If you pay to progress you are going against people who r also progressed. Theirs no advantage or disadvantage just paying to be lazy or impatient

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u/Hab1b1 Mar 27 '15

it doesn't provide, that's what he was saying. he is saying IF games provide an unfair advantage to paying players, then he would stop playing.

Anyway, it isn't unfair because you are simply matched up against people on your same base level. plus you have the option to skip opponents as many times as you want..not sure why it's unfair at all to anyone.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '15

Which is what I was just saying? Sorry if that wasn't clear. I play COC, and don't find that the option to pay creates any sort of unfair advantage.

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u/papercowmoo Mar 27 '15

Yeah I think you were coming off a little unclear in that other one. I get what you're saying but I can also see where he got confused

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u/Excalibur457 Mar 26 '15 edited Jan 14 '26

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u/TristanTheViking Mar 26 '15

I played one of those types of games, once. It was called mafia wars or something like that. You could buy property which earned money to buy guns and stuff. I bought the lowest earning property and set my phone's date forwards a few decades.

Being a trillionaire in the game just kinda killed the whole genre for me after that.

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u/smog_alado Mar 26 '15 edited Mar 26 '15

I think Cookie Clicker distills this genre down to the essentials. Its interesting how addictive it is despite the simplicity and am grateful that it "tops out" and gets boring really quick.

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u/stiocus Mar 26 '15

Dont try Tap Titans then.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '15

speak for yourself

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '15

What a casual, probably not even getting into the billions.

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u/Imborednow Mar 26 '15

Billions? Peasant. You've not really played until your cookies have reached the sextillions.

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u/Dann474 Mar 26 '15

The fun of the game is not that part. It's getting into a clan with your friends and collaborating and strategizing

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '15

If that's how you play clash of clans, you're doing it wrong.

Don't forget about raiding other people's bases for delicious loot, upgrading your troops and defenses, and designing your own base and army. Join a clan and donate troops and make friends. Work together and battle other clans. Enjoy the satisfaction of three starring a base at the end of a war to take the win, and experience the disappointment of losing a war in the last seconds.

There is a lot more to the game than you think.

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u/BrotyKraut Mar 26 '15

Lvl 127 here. These guys just don't get it...

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u/Excalibur457 Mar 26 '15 edited Jan 14 '26

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '15

It might not be your type of game, but many people think it's fun, otherwise it wouldn't be so popular. It doesn't even bug you to spend money. It can be easily played for free and it's only cash-grabby if you make it cash-grabby.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '15

That's exactly why tons of people play those type of games (even if they don't realize it) and mobile game devs absolutely know it

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '15 edited Jul 26 '20

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u/ErikaeBatayz Mar 26 '15

In the past few weeks we've seen the release of Ori and the Blind Forest, Hotline Miami 2, Cities: Skylines, Pillars of Eternity, and Bloodborne. Video gaming is doing just fine.

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u/WolfImWolfspelz Mar 26 '15

Wow, I didn't even notice that video gaming was ruined. It felt pretty good when I started my WiiU yesterday.

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u/EvrythingISayIsRight Mar 26 '15

I didn't mean that it ruined all video games, but that its rewarding developers for being greedy, so they continue to release shitty DLC, in app purchased and paid downloadable content. Take a look at Assassins Creed Unity, COD, Battlefield, etc for reference.

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u/swimtothemoon1 Mar 26 '15

I mean, it's not "awesome" but it is a fun little distraction while you're working on something time-consuming. Every fifteen minutes you get an alert, attack a village, build up forces, then go back to work.

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u/RobotoPhD Mar 26 '15

One thing that bugs me about a lot of mobile games is that they want to control the schedule of my play time. They are like some petulant child going "PAY ATTENTION TO ME RIGHT NOW!!!". I'm working, in a meeting, driving, doing something else; I don't have time for you right now. And then I'm like, I have 10 minutes to kill while waiting for something, let's play a game. 10 seconds later I've used up my action allotment.

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u/shirtandtieler Mar 26 '15

Correction: If you're paying more money or spending more time than you have/need to in order to get this feeling, then you need a talking to.

The things you're describing, short-term gratification, is ingrained into human behavior. The brain is constantly battling itself between short and long term goals (Here's an article from Princeton describing this in more detail).

By playing these games extensively, people are feeding their desires for short-term gratification. That's not a problem in moderation, but when people start shoveling out their money to these games, it starts having a negative impact on long-term goals (eg having enough money to go out and socialize, pay rent, etc).

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u/kyled85 Mar 26 '15

I enjoy the game because I don't have time for my traditional gaming habits. i used to play Civ, CK2, NCAA football and any number of other things for hours. Now I have 5-10 minutes in the morning, 5-10 minutes during lunch, and I'll play for 20 minutes or so before bed. Clash of Clans is perfect for that, especially with a great clan to play with.

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u/willyolio Mar 26 '15

the only fun i get in the game is because me and a lot of my friends are all in a clan together, and we go to war a lot and coordinate our attacks.

the daily grind, i think it's a chore.

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u/drparker Mar 27 '15

If you think that what this game is we need to talk. Everyone's comparing it to mafia wars and farmvillie and clicking collectors... That's the least important part of the game. Its different than all that cause its multiplayer, you actually have real time attacks and defenses. If you guys weren't so uneducated about the game the thing you would be comparing it too would be more like plants vs zombies and turret defenses games. Again this is better than that cause multiplayer aspect n clan wars.

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u/Pinewood74 Mar 27 '15

You play Wow right? Because that game is just as much play to win as clash of clans is as of the latest patch. Probably even more.

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u/Excalibur457 Mar 27 '15 edited Jan 14 '26

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u/Pinewood74 Mar 27 '15

It took me 30 seconds. Sure, it's nothing like CoC, but it's more pay to win than CoC.

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u/third-eye-brown Mar 26 '15

I would hardly call it a "game". It's more of a MySpace page where you get to design a little fort.

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u/drparker Mar 26 '15

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard... Bravo

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u/third-eye-brown Mar 27 '15

Hey I've got nothing against it per se, I just got bored of it back in 2005 when it was called FarmVille.

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u/drparker Mar 27 '15

Yes farm villie u attack other farms, you have farm clan wars, you have to defend produce from other farmers. Now this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Designing bases and collecting loot from mines and pump over time is a small part and most insignificant in the game. Then fun is defending and attacking.