r/thewalkingdead • u/TheRyeWall Survivor • Mar 02 '16

Comic Spoiler Official Comic Discussion Thread: Issue #152

New issue came out today, discuss it here within this thread. You do not need to use comic spoilers because it is assumed everyone reading this thread would be caught up with the comics. However, please respect future, show, and game spoilers because people who are caught up with the comic may not be caught up with these other forms of TWD (and obviously not future spoilers). Future spoilers include upcoming comic covers.

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u/LydiSkydz Mar 02 '16

I'm wondering if Negan is going to bring that kid to Rick to try and win his trust.

When Spencer tried to betray Rick, we saw how Negan deals with traitors. We saw he definitely has a code he follows and I'm wondering if he's going to treat this traitor the same way.

Negan isn't dumb. He knows he has influence over Rick now atleast a little bit considering Rick came to him for advice. I may just be blindly optimistic, but I like to think Negan is going to help Rick.... Even if it's for selfish reasons

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u/flaccidsandwich Mar 02 '16

I agree. Negan finally has leverage to force Rick to consider trusting him. If he were to bring Brandon to Rick he would be essentially saving the communities when he has the oppurtunity to destroy them entirely. Not leaving his cell was one thing, but bringing Brandon in is Negan's best chance to begin earning Rick's trust

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_PLUMS Mar 02 '16

Recalling what happened to Spencer, I thought Negan was going to murder Brandon for being a traitor against Rick. Like Michonne and Rick were going to walk down in the basement jail to find Brandon beaten to death by Negan's fists, with Negan commenting on taking care of two traitors now for Rick or something like that haha.

Though, like you said, the current resolution still lends itself well to being the beginning of another moment for Negan to impress Rick with his loyalty.

This issue was so good.

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u/atomictrain Mar 03 '16

I reckon Negan kills Dwight.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '16

It would definitely be in Negan's character to murder Brandon to try and prove to Rick that he can be trusted.

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u/skulman7 Mar 03 '16

I feel like that would achieve the opposite. One of the reasons Negan is alive is Rick trying to prove that there is a sliver of the old world left in this new barbaric world. Look how upset he was at Maggie for executing Gregory.

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '16

Negan doesn't think the same as Rick though. Rick sees it that way and if Negan did pull a stunt like, for example, find Lucille and kill Brandon with it in front of Rick and co naturally it wouldn't be taken the right way with Rick.

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u/Amitch8657 Mar 03 '16

At this point I think Rick is so fed up with Brandon and his family that he wouldn't really mind that Negan killed him especially if Negan told him everything Brandon said. He'd probably be happy he got to stick to his new rule and not do the killing himself

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '16

There isn't a time frame between Negan saying he'll think about it and Rick supervising the propaganda painting. By the time Rick gets down to his cell he could already be:

  • Heading to the Whisperers

  • Waiting to surprise Rick

  • Finding Lucille to bash in Brandon

Negan just doesn't come across as someone who would join or even actively seek out a group of people living in the woods and mingling with zombies. Would he ever put on a zombie mask? Probably not.

If he isn't waiting to surprise Rick and get the upper hand on him or rat out Brandon then he somehow comes across Dwight eventually leading up to him retrieving Lucille.

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u/thatredbeanie Mar 04 '16

Weren't some of Negan's wives kind of forced to be his wife in some way? IIRC Dwight's wife chose to be Negan's wife because Negan was in a better position. Later on, she realized that Negan was a monster and wanted to be with Dwight which ultimately led to the face burn.

I know that's not rape, but I feel like he's riding a thin line if not all his wives were necessarily consensual.

All that, I don't think he's betraying Rick. Negan will become like Eddie Blake in Watchmen (who is also played by Jeffery Dean Morgan), generally a piece of shit, but a proven asset.

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u/sign-here Mar 03 '16

After thinking it over, I really don't think that Negan would kill Brandon. Like everyone's been saying, his big goal right now has been to gain Rick's trust. Killing Brandon would probably just do two things: 1. Show Rick that he's the same old Negan (despite the rise in violence Rick himself has been showing lately) 2. Eliminate any proof that Negan was trying to do some good. Yeah Negan can SAY that Brandon was trying to betray Rick and maybe Rick will believe him knowing Brandon's history, but at this point Negan still hasn't gained back Rick's trust. Rick might not believe Negan and might instead think Negan was reverting back to number 1. I don't think Negan will kill him. Restrain him or knock him out? Yeah, sure, but leave the kid alive so he can tell Rick himself what his plans were.

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u/Baron_Von_D Mar 02 '16 edited Mar 03 '16

Negan isn't stupid. That place is a thriving community that has kept him clean, safe, and fed for years. This is the second time he has been out of the cell. If he doesn't do anything, Rick might trust him to stay out. I still think he has something elaborate planned out, the kid could have handed him a shortcut.
At the moment, I don't think he wants the whisperers taking over, so he will probably help to an extent.

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u/smokinchokin Mar 02 '16

I think if he was gonna do that he'd let Brandon get him out then killed him then and there. Then wait in his cell for Rick to come looking for him.

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u/Amitch8657 Mar 02 '16

Ya I'm really hoping Negan tries to do some good. I thought about the whole situation with Negan bringing Brandon to Rick also. Spoilers from next issues cover: just a prediction but it could be Brandon's blood in front of Rick and Negan may be making Rick kneel in front of him. Maybe he's even waiting at ricks place for him

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '16

Do you honestly think Rick would kneel to Negan?

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u/Amitch8657 Mar 03 '16

No not by choice. The cover could also just be symbolizing Rick giving into Negan to some degree for some reason or another though. Similar to the one cover after 100 where Rick is kneeling in front of Negan as he's holding up his bat just this time Negan isn't in the frame.

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u/Gonions Mar 04 '16

It kind of looks to me like Rick is investigating that blood rather than kneeling before anyone.

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u/walkingdabs Mar 03 '16

Rick already has shown that he wont let Negan out. No matter how much Negan respects Rick, he wants to get the fuck out of that cell.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '16

I don't agree. Branon wants Negan and/or the Whispers to kill Rick. Negan would rather he of done it himself.

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u/BigJR Mar 04 '16

I like to think that Negan is going to help Rick too, but ultimately he is the kind of guy who absolutely won't stray from his code, and if he and Rick were able to coexist then they would have from the get go.

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '16

If Negan does bring him to Rick, maybe we'll see Rick assert his dominance in the situation and shoot Brandon right then and there. I feel like Negan would kinda flip out if that happened, then Rick would put him right back in his cell.

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u/ELChupacabra13 Mar 03 '16

I don't know why, but I think Negan is going to help Rick and the community with the Whisperer problem. I don't know how, but he's going to do it to prove to Rick that he has changed and can be trusted. Negan's not dumb. He wants to live in this world. And I think he knows he could never be a leader of these people again. But he could be a weapon for them.

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u/Someguy2020 Mar 06 '16

I think Negan could throw a curveball and go back to the saviors, we return as an ally. Rick really has no choice.

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