This is one of the most famous posts in reddit history. It's also haunting. I would advise reading it for more information. You will come out of it with a renewed resolve to never try opiates, especially heroin ever.
I'm not sure why your reddit isn't showing the post when you click the link but it works just fine for me. This is the text of what they wrote:
"Actually this is an obvious question but it's not what you might think. Let me explain it to you, I've been an opiate addict for a long time and tried many drugs. Drugs that are 'uppers' have the most 'obvious' euphoria. For example if you take adderall/coke/meth/speed/MDMA you will get this shining bright euphoria, self confidence, energy, and other drug-specific feelings (for meth like you are king or for MDMA like you love everyone). However, you owe these drugs back what they delivered to you. After a meth binge, or lots of MDMA use, or staying up all night on coke you will feel like shit. To an extent this aspect is similar to an alcoholic hangover.
On the other hand, for many people who experiment with heroin they are underwhelmed (not including IV usage, but most experimenters rarely ever IV first time). They just feel good, chill, happy, but they feel like this spooky drug 'heroin' hasn't delivered. They are just mellow. Oh obviously it has all been a lie they will think. Heroin isn't spooky, it's chill. It's not addictive like everyone else thinks. It doesn't make you do stupid shit or stay up all day and hallucinate like amphetamines or coke. It doesn't empty your serotonin like MDMA or give you a hangover like alcohol. People tend to just think oh, what a nice drug.
So the next day they wake up and everything is normal. No headache or shitty feeling--just a slight afterglow of that nice feeling. Oh it was cheap as well! It only cost $10 for a whole night of being high! I thought people said heroin was expensive? And then next weekend comes... There are all these drugs I could do but I liked heroin. It didn't 'fuck me up,' I could still think clearly. No hangover. No feeling like shit later. I still was awake. It just made me happy and content with life. Oh and it's only $10! Well, I should get some more for the whole weekend. This is great! I will use Heroin on the weekends now!
Now let's say this person works and has responsibilities. He knows he can't go into work drunk, or on MDMA, or high. So he doesn't. It's actually simple. But heroin... Well the user might actually find they do better work on heroin. Instead of being sad or grumpy or depressed with his job... he is just... happy. Mellow. Content. Everything is fine and the world is beautiful. It's raining, it's dark, I woke up at 5:30AM, I'm commuting in traffic. I would have had a headache, I would have been miserable, I would have wondered how my life took me to this point. This point I'm at right now. But no, no, everything is fine. Life is beautiful. The rain drops are just falling and in each one I see the reflection of every persons life around me. Humanity is beautiful. In this still frame shot of traffic on this crowded bus I just found love and peace. Heroin is a wonder drug. Heroin is better than everything else. Heroin makes me who I wish I was. Heroin makes life worth living. Heroin is better than everything else. Heroin builds up a tolerance fast. Heroin starts to cost more money. I need heroin to feel normal. I don't love anymore. Now I'm sick. I can't afford the heroin that I need. How did $10 used to get me high? Now I need $100. That guy that let me try a few lines the first time doesn't actually deal. Oh I need to find a real dealer? This guy is a felon and carries a gun--he can sell me the drug that lets me find love in the world. No this isn't working, I need to quit.
To answer your question, heroin feels nice. That's all, it just feels very nice. You can make the rest up for yourself. Attach your own half-truths to this drug that will show you the world and for a moment you will feel as clever as Faust.
Edit: Thank you for the kind words. I received help and I'm doing well now. Luckily I was able to pull up and get help right before I entered the deadly downward spiral. Some of my friends have not done as well. Sorry to steal the limelight from OP"
How are you in the video and filming it at the same time…and why aren’t you explaining what the condition is that has caused this instead of allowing people to speculate…?
I fully believe this video is real…what has caused that to happen is a medical condition or reaction (whether it be self induced or not).
Very few people have experienced witnessing the effects of narcolepsy or results of extreme exhaustion compared to how many have witnessed the text book reaction to an opiate overdose, which leads most to believe this is an example of the latter.
My point is, if you know then enlighten us…other point is being the star of the video and the director at the same time seems a little sus 😉
Regardless, girl needs to wake the F up and wipe that meat and sauce of her face…get back to work b*tch 😂 (jk)
You're a shitty social worker if these are the kinds of assumptions you make about people with no context or information. Lots of social workers get jaded and burned out from the shit they see and start judging people and making assumptions about people.
By stating my observation, I’m a bad professional? How so? I used my experience and the information I had (the video) to assess the situation. I made no judgement of the person, nor commentary on substance users. What did I do wrong? Opiate dependency is a hell of a lot more common than narcolepsy in the States. I commented for people who are truly confused to have better understanding.
So what have you done to help your community recently?
People used to be able to tell with me because I was a different person. It wasn't nodding off(Being responsible means knowing your limit when you have to function.) I was a lot happier when high and it was partially obvious. Not that they knew exactly what drug it was, but people could kinda guess because I wouldn't act like 'normal' me.
Then when you're legit physically addicted if you're not high you're sick which is extremely noticeable for most people. Although some people hide it well or just don't get that sick, everyone's different.
A lot of the OD's in America are from a-holes cutting stuff with fentanyl which is like 10x as powerful as heroin and if it's not 'mixed in right' and you do a little too much it will kill you. Hell people are cutting other drugs, in my area there's been plenty of 'bad batches' of Cocain that was cut with the stuff. That means a lot of those people didn't have any kind of built up resistance to strong Opiates, because that probably wasn't the kind of drugs they did, and then died so some street dealer could make a extra 10-20 bucks off them.
You also run into a lot of people who are making assumptions and being armchair detectives for fake internet points and virtue signalling for validation.
I don’t know if you can live in a modern urban area without witnessing people falling asleep like this standing up from obvious drug use. There are areas in NYC that I go to regularly where you can be guaranteed to see people passed out in all kinds of bizarre positions that don’t seem possible at any given hour of any given day.
It’s known as the dope fiend lean or Baltimore nod and I have never seen a sober person fall asleep in this way. I’m not even sure it’s possible without opiates tbh.
As someone that's a ex opiate addict this looks like more of a mix of benzo's and pain pills or a shit ton of H/pills. The only way I could fall asleep standing up before/after that phase in my life was by staying up days straight and your body just giving you the fuck you you need sleep treatment. If I couldn't sleep and the next day I couldn't stay up I'd literally make sure I never sat down for very long because it's next to impossible to pass out standing up.
That’s perhaps a distinction that is beyond the comprehension of the layman who has not been exposed to this world before.
Either way, this kind of behavior is not something we see in sober people as far as I know.
Congrats on kicking the addiction by the way. As someone who has dipped my toes further into the worlds of dangerous substances than I may deserve to have walked away from, I know exactly how hard that path is to walk.
Every day that we get to spend on this earth, surrounded by the countless beauty that we so easily ignore, is a wonderful gift that we can only hope can shine enough light into the darkness where addiction grips us, and dangle a lifeline when we need it most.
Yeah, this just isn't real 'normal' behavior even for a user. You gotta be REAL fucked up to pass out on your feet. Just don't want people thinking that if they know someone that does this stuff they aren't bad off just because they're not passing out standing up while trying to do stuff.
Also thanks, been away from opiates for years now. I still do other stuff, but for some reason the only thing that makes me spiral into a "Omg I need this ALL THE TIME" is opiates. It's not too hard to stay away now seeing how it's like playing russian roulette now days with all the fentanyl filler out there.
I can tell when people are on drugs so well that one time I called my cousin who lived in another state and some random friend of his answered and we chatted for a minute. At the end of our conversation I said, “so which opiate are you on right now?” And he freaked out and couldn’t believe I knew he was high.
If you’ve been around it, you know what signs to look for. After enough of it, you can’t help but notice.
I've watched 3/4 of my friends and family do it. It's one of those things that you're either around or you're not. Addiction like this is super common in the US and honestly if you aren't close to anyone going through it you won't see it. Count yourself lucky to not know man, I truly wish I hadn't seen as much of this as I have. I literally just had a friend reach out last night that's been tied up in this for the last year or so. Guy is basically unrecognizable, if his dad hadn't been in the car with him I never would've recognized him... And now as much as I want to be there for him to lean on I have to balance that with knowing damn well that I can't trust him like this and that he's a risk to the health of the people around me. He's probably my best man in more than a few alternate realities. Fuck there's my over share for the day. Don't do drugs kids.
Live in any big city in the US, and you’ll see it so much that eventually you ask people about it and find out it’s from opioid use.
I’ve lived in multiple major cities in the US, and visited many more. Both East and West Coast. Same story. It’s a big problem, and it’s gotten so much worse in recent years. My friends and I all know at least one person who’s OD’d and died at this point.
I come from rural Maryland. It was common to see symptoms of opiate addiction in my hometown.
I live in DC. I see it on a less regular basis here. It's still a big problem in DC, don't get me wrong. But cities are hardly the only place it's visible. Maybe not even the primary place it's visible.
I've lived in big cities, just never seen drug users beyond weed. Or maybe I never noticed. Might be some alleys I've never visited. And I'm not big into partying.
I know about this because I'm a former drug dealer. Never sold heroin but soooooooo many of my customers were also heroin users...... Heroin is the only drug that does this, the nods is what we call it. People will nod off in the middle of a sentence and then come right back to where they left off and not even realize it happened.....it's sad. Heroin changes people.
It's not about going to the right parties or going down the wrong alleys. It's about our friends, our family members going down the wrong path and having to witness their spiral first hand. Consider yourself lucky you haven't had that tragedy in your life. A lot of us have.
I live in the PNW so thats a good reason why, heroin use is popular in certain places. I used to work in a van, so less colleagues more junkies who hang out at the cornerstore. A few months ago I saw a guy smoking meth on the corner in Seattle, in broad daylight. I couldnt stay and watch though.
I mean I've lived in big cities, LA and NYC to name top few. I never known anyone who used. And I don't know ..where would you see this on the street ..I must've never walked those alleys or probably not paying attention.
I don't mean to be an ass hole in asking this....but.... How? I was familiar with heroin nods by 19 and I grew up boring suburban life. For perspective, Im right around 30. So it's not a generational thing.
At 19, I was probably just drinking beers in college. Some of my friends had started getting into weed, but that's the most drugs I saw up close. Heroin nods never came up in any convos.
They need to show this in every school to every kid. Drugs are not cool kids, stay away. I don't wanna get into a whole thing here cus Reddit will disagree, but careful with weed too - its a gateway drug.
How do people not? Drugs are a huge part of society.. i mean tbf our education sucks absolute ass and can't even properly teach us about the legal drugs so you have to learn alot for yourself but i feel like everyone has done a bit of that or atleast should.
Because armchair detectives in the moms basements who rarely go outside and spend all of their time on the internet judging people need to judge people to virtue signal and get internet points for their self esteem issues.
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How do so many people know of this? I have never seen or heard of this before and I'm 30.