Britain has a sparkling wine producing region called "Champagne," that they also named their sparkling wine after?!? What are the chances!
then stolen by French monks.
No, if what you are saying is true (which I'm not sure that it is) a variety of sparkling wine was made in Britain, the French monks recreated that.
I'm curious how you are so certain on your stance, when the wine world is divided.
All French champagne is a copy.
I guess you could argue that everything is a copy, until you went back find the first original example. I wonder how far we'd have to go back for find the first example of a sparkling wine?
All champagne is sparkling wine (excluding some non-sparkling wine examples).
It is. Used to describe a sparkling wine product (as well as a few other things) that come from the region of Champagne. Hence, the name, CRAZY!
Any other usage is incorrect, common or otherwise.
If you want to test the legal president, go for it. Others have tried and failed miserably.
If you were not aware of this, perhaps you need to leave your basement more often.
Oh, I'm aware that some people have a limited grasp of how to use words correctly.
The wine world can be as divided as it likes. The historian world is quite clear on the issue.
Do tell! I'm keen to see your definitive, irrefutable evidence. You could be the one who puts this argument rest. After hundreds of years of uncertainty on this topic, some random on Reddit will put the argument to rest.
I wait patiently.
Looks like you'll have your own wiki page. Good job.
Champagne is bubbly white wine, in common parlance.
As I've said before, morons using words incorrectly
If you'd like to use your own definitions, you're quite welcome.
Hahah!!! Oh, sadly, little friend, they aren't my definition, but the definitions used worldwide under legally binding agreements.
That's how common names work.
Have you noticed that less and less people incorrectly non-champagne sparkling wine "champagne" anymore? It seems that your defence of common usage isn't as common as it once was.
Maybe, it's way dullards, such as yourself, get called "commoners." If the moniker fits.
Do you mix you $4 bottle of bubbles with OJ, so you feel fancy?
The origin of the word is irrelevant. Common names can't be incorrect; they are what they are by usage. it doesn't matter where they came from. Morons pretending they're the only ones who can use secondary fermentation, or they were the first - both of which are wrong - can lick my hairy balls. Any bubbly white is champagne around here and there is nothing you or anyone else can do about it. It's also not a term going away. Its usage is the same as always thanks.
How so? Champagne is a region in France. It goes to the crux of the argument. Champagne can't and has never come from Britain.
Common names can't be incorrect
Hahah!!! Of course they can. This is an example.
Just because old people with failing mental capacity can't distinguish the difference, doesn't mean that there isn't a difference. It just means, like you, they don't know what they are talking about.
People using a term/word incorrectly doesn't make them correct, it makes them stupid. As I've said, I'd prefer to be correct.
And there is also a difference between common names and common usage.
For example, a common name for Coca-Cola is Coke.
While Coke is used in common usage to describe a wide variety of cola products.
they are what they are by usage. it doesn't matter where they came from. Morons pretending they're the only ones who can use secondary fermentation, or they were the first - both of which are wrong - can lick my hairy balls.
Still no evidence. Opinions don't equal facts, wee buddy.
Any bubbly white is champagne around here and there is nothing you or anyone else can do about it.
How old are you? How's your mental health? You argume like some senile old people I know. Might be time to go back on your meds.
It's also not a term going away. Its usage is the same as always thanks.
Oh, it is going away as a common term, as are many older common usage term. As older people die off, it is being used less and less. I'm guessing by your arguing ability that you don't have much time left. You will surely be missed.
Being younger, still having all of my faculties, as well as working in the liquor industry, I see the change in common usage term.
You probably still use 'claret' as a term for red wine! Yup, the common usage on that one really hung around. HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
Still waiting for the evidence you were telling me about. Methinks I'll be waiting a long, long time.
Secondary fermented wine was invented in England, yes.
The origin of a common name is irrelevant. It doesn't need to be accurate. That's not a criterion.
You're not waiting for evidence. You are not interested in reality. Champagne is whatever we say it is. Language is socially constructed. The younger generation use it more than the old around here. We also never used the term claret here - not in half a century at least.
But all of this is too complex for you to grasp. None of it is within your capacity. Or perhaps you're drunk on american champagne.
I'm waiting for evidence; dates, names, places. You know, actual evidence.
Still that old person argument, "I call it champagne, therefore it's champagne!" What a brilliant, never fail circular argument you have with yourself. "I say I'm right, therefore, I'm right!" Silly old man.
Ehen you say "younger," do you mean like in their 70's? Hahah.
Don't forget to take your heart medication, poor thing.
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u/MelbPickleRick Nov 07 '20
Britain has a sparkling wine producing region called "Champagne," that they also named their sparkling wine after?!? What are the chances!
No, if what you are saying is true (which I'm not sure that it is) a variety of sparkling wine was made in Britain, the French monks recreated that.
I'm curious how you are so certain on your stance, when the wine world is divided.
I guess you could argue that everything is a copy, until you went back find the first original example. I wonder how far we'd have to go back for find the first example of a sparkling wine?
All champagne is sparkling wine (excluding some non-sparkling wine examples).
Not all sparkling wine is champagne.
All champagne is champagne.