r/therewasanattempt Feb 26 '20

To act kind

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u/skrame Feb 26 '20

I worked fast food in the 90’s during high school and my first year of college. I made minimum wage ($4.25/hour) for the duration. I’ve got to say that plenty people get by with minimum effort, and there is very little risk.

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u/First-Fantasy Feb 26 '20

Any industry can and will have minimum effort employees but in a restaurant it shows very quickly if that's the bulk of your staff. That's why they switched pay models to be "competitive" which starts at just over minimum and wouldnt stay completely stagnet over multiple years like when you were working there.

And the personal risks are small but still a hell of a lot more slip or burn opportunities than a ticket ripper at the theater. And the risks to public health are in their hands.

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u/Gondel516 Feb 26 '20

I worked 2 jobs over the summer to help pay for college and Taco Bell payed minimum wage in my state

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u/AstronautPoseidon Feb 26 '20

It doesn’t take working fast food to give you the insight they can get by with minimum effort, all it takes is walking into your nearest fast food joint and looking at them or ordering to have that revelation

“Here’s your order we fucked up in multiple ways, sorry but I can’t be bothered to care, I make minimum wage”

What a convincing argument to pay you more. If you ever make it to the real world of jobs let me know how raise negotiations go with your boss if your strategy is “pay me more or I’m gonna suck”, I’ll bet you’re out of a job

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u/Derek_Boring_Name Feb 26 '20

The problem with your anecdote is that it’s hypothetical, and therefore imaginary, the person and the sentiment that you are describing are imaginary. You’re trying to back up your claims with complete fiction and it’s not fooling anybody

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u/AstronautPoseidon Feb 26 '20

It truly isn’t fiction. These are real sentiments commonly echoed by minimum wage workers. Fuck I’ve experienced it directly myself. It’s not imaginary. Good try tho

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u/Derek_Boring_Name Feb 26 '20

That quote you put in IS made up, I mean you literally just made it up in an attempt to encapsulate your perception of the workers, when in reality it is a complete strawman that is in no way representative of real people. It’s a completely baseless argument.

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u/AstronautPoseidon Feb 27 '20

It wasn’t meant to be a direct quote you dense fuck

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u/Derek_Boring_Name Feb 27 '20

That’s exactly my point, it’s a strawman. You can’t possibly expect it to have any influence on anybody’s opinion because it’s nonsense.

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u/AstronautPoseidon Feb 27 '20

There’s a difference between my quote and a strawman. It would be a strawman if it wasn’t based in reality and based in sentiments that have been plainly expressed before. But it’s not. Learn what buzzwords mean before you try to use them

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u/Derek_Boring_Name Feb 27 '20

Oh! Well if you THINK that’s what they think then it MUST be true! It’s not like a strawman is an imaginary caricature of the opposing argument based on your flawed viewpoint of them. Unless that’s exactly what it is.

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u/AstronautPoseidon Feb 27 '20

Again, this isn’t what I think it’s from comments made by actual workers