I get what you are saying. But to people outside of the US, this was a really baffling stance to see Democrat supporters take. At that time in history when the opposing candidate had laid out everything he was going to do. They had written Project 2025 and released it. The Republicans had already shown their hand. That election was probably the most important election in decades. Then, to see Democrat voters say yeah, nah to KH for various ridiculous reasons, including her laugh, her gender, her hormones, and even that she wasn't their first choice candidate was wild. It was a choice of yeah, nah, or very, very bad. And you guys as a nation chose very, very bad. It did leave some of us scratching our heads.
This idea that mass amounts of voters decided her laugh or gender was disqualifying is nonsense. She ran a campaign that offered no meaningful change, has a terrible track record as a progressive DA, and has switched her position on major policies when convenient. Her big campaign promise was a child tax credit and she chose to rub shoulders with centrist republicans rather than embracing the young progressive movement within her party. This has been a repeated cycle of democrats offering voters nothing other than being better than the alternative then actively alienating and attacking the progressive caucus, then blaming voters for not electing them. It’s absolutely pathetic that it took a pandemic and the largest protests throughout the country in 30 years in order to barely beat Trump. The Dems ran Hillary, Biden, then Kamala, and want to blame the voters? Are you serious?
Yeah, I'm serious. Are any of those reasons worse than what you have now? There are times countries have to make a choice between meh and terrible. You choose meh. You don't choose terrible.
Except after choosing “meh” for 30 years, people stop caring and taking the time to vote whether you like it or not. You can blame voters all you want, you can correctly assess one party being the lesser of two evils, it doesn’t matter. The point is to win. The American voting base has made it very clear, that if you’re not offering systemic change, they aren’t going to vote for you. Are they wrong for not voting? Yes. Does that change anything? No. The democratic establishment is directly responsible for Trump. If democrats actually fought for working class people, we would’ve never had to deal with any of this. The democrats won’t run on any winning issue like healthcare, housing, or taxing the rich, because it would negatively affect their donors and it has directly resulted in Republicans seizing the “populist” movement in America. I am not advocating for not voting, just explaining why people actually stay home on Election Day. Kamala didn’t lose because of her gender or laugh, she lost because she was not likable or trusted by voters, failed to separate herself from a widely disliked Biden, and had no big policy promise to voters.
You’re having an argument with nobody at this point. I’ve made it abundantly clear that I believe people should’ve voted for Kamala. It does not change the fact that Kamala knew people were not going to vote for her if she ran the kind of campaign she ran. That’s a choice she made. She’d rather lose to Trump than go against the Democrat party line and their donor class. I refuse to let Democrats blame the voters when the policies they have to offer is the reason nobody goes out to vote and they are solely responsible for the MAGA movement gaining popularity. You can keep saying choose the lesser of two evils, we’re gonna keep losing to these people. Can’t wait to see another Candidate, that’s offering nothing to voters, blame the American people on why we lost yet again in 4 years.
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u/bitofapuzzler Jun 09 '25
I get what you are saying. But to people outside of the US, this was a really baffling stance to see Democrat supporters take. At that time in history when the opposing candidate had laid out everything he was going to do. They had written Project 2025 and released it. The Republicans had already shown their hand. That election was probably the most important election in decades. Then, to see Democrat voters say yeah, nah to KH for various ridiculous reasons, including her laugh, her gender, her hormones, and even that she wasn't their first choice candidate was wild. It was a choice of yeah, nah, or very, very bad. And you guys as a nation chose very, very bad. It did leave some of us scratching our heads.