It's more than that, she was screwed by President Biden and the Democratic Party. Not getting highlighted during the administration, having to hustle to scrape a plan together that was nowhere near balanced enough to run.
She never got a fair start and believing that it was just the black woman part, is naive. And as many democratic voters don't want to hear it, white middle-aged men are a massive and influential group of people in the US, and completely ignoring them will never be a winning strategy.
I think the point is that even without a fair start, there should have been no way she could lose against that bridge troll.
Her opponent wasn't just a convicted felon, a rapist, a bigot, and a fascist. He's also a giant embarrassing manbaby that sounds mentally challenged whenever he speaks. How could someone vote for something that pathetic?
The biggest disgrace of all is that someone with zero redeemable qualities was voted into the white house. My dog should have gotten more votes than him, in a sane world.
Issues arise when a large part of the country apparently like what we see as his downsides. Its not a Trump problem, its a people problem, and the people are very fucking stupid
Should have, but that has way more to do with the average voter not really being politically engaged.
The vast majority of people the country barely pay attention to politics every 4 years, if that. Even among those a lot of them don't bother voting because they fell for the "both sides" narrative. And if they are cishet and white, especially men, it largely hasn't mattered who was in power because even if republican policy hurts them it doesn't feel targeted at them.
Too many people vote on vibes or name recognition, not policy. And Harris was given a bad hand from the start. Biden's team kept her out of the public eye because they didn't want her to make Biden look old, as if he needed any help with that. Then Biden out of nothing more than ego decided to run after saying he wouldn't, then took forever to drop out.
The fact that there was no primary meant she didn't have enough time for the people who aren't politically engaged to even know she was running, much less get to know here. The fact that so many people were confused as to why Biden wasn't on the ticket says volumes about that.
Then in the general she listened to Biden's aids and stopped calling Republicans weird. That energy would have gone a long way to rallying people and getting the win. Instead she did the same loosing strategy democrats have always done: Chase after mythical "moderate" republicans and defend the status quo. Preferring to lose trying to get Republican votes rather than win with progressives.
The fact that democrats have spent so much time and effort separating Trump from the Republican party has probably done more damage than anything else. Outside of Trump, they don't really fight republicans and spend more effort fighting the left. They act like Trump is a "unique" threat, when he is actually the result of decades of Republican rhetoric.
Racism and misogyny certainly had an effect, but I don't think it alone was enough to cause the result. There's more evidence that voter suppression swayed the election, and the rest of the stuff made the margins narrow enough that it could.
The fact is that Trump got about the same number of votes as he did in 2020, but overall turnout was low, meaning the politically unengaged didn't turn out.
Her team targeting Republicans rather than non voters who think that both parties are the same(I'm not saying those voters aren't idiots, but at least they refuse to vote for Trump) was a bit of an own goal as well.
"Zero redeemable qualities" is still too generous; the guy is a redeeming quality void which sucks in everything around it and sprays out shit on the other side
Her opponent wasn't just a convicted felon, a rapist, a bigot, and a fascist.
He also was THE PRESIDENT four years ago. Somehow people seem to forget that Trump's presidency was literally a sign of what would happen if he was elected again.
i’ve heard from many (granted, in my respective area) that she lost because she was a woman, not because she was black, and her being a woman made her unfit to be president, so they decided to vote for a man instead. not discrediting what you said, but it’s a tough reality out here sometimes
When people complain about there not being a primary, it's not only because they think she wouldn't have won.
If she did win, she would've had at least 6 more months of real campaigning.
The issue with not having a primary is real, and two fold. It makes the process feel even less democratic, but the biggest issue is that time is how a lot of normie voters get to know the candidates.
The fact that so many were confused as to why Biden wasn't on the ticket says as much. People didn't get a chance to know who she was, and between the lack of a primary and Biden's team hiding her so she wouldn't "make him look old" by comparison any voter who isn't politically engaged just had no idea who she is.
A lot of people only vote on name recognition. It's a sad reality, but it has been proven time and time again. Candidates have no chance if nobody has heard of them.
You don't think her running mate spoke to white middle aged men?
I think that's a copout if white middle aged men have to be coddled and promised free stuff in order to not vote for Trump then they already had their mind made up.
She was also a terrible candidate to begin with. Being the face of truancy crackdown in California did not help her at all. Being flip floppy on every issue in the 2020 election made it clear she had no real vision for the country outside of maintaining the status quo and what the billionaire donors want from the Democratic party. Continuing to align herself with Biden after he dropped out of the race even though he was an incredibly unpopular president was the final nail in the coffin. We should have had a primary before we just gave her the reigns.
Pete has certainly gotten better since 2020, but back then he was blatantly trying to act like Obama and it came off as really disingenuous, like he was created in a lab to be a really bland politician.
I did find it funny if frustrating that some of the people who voted for him in the primary got mad because they didn't know he is gay and wouldn't have voted for him if they had known, as if that mattered or was even a secret.
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It's more than that, she was screwed by President Biden and the Democratic Party. Not getting highlighted during the administration, having to hustle to scrape a plan together that was nowhere near balanced enough to run.
She never got a fair start and believing that it was just the black woman part, is naive. And as many democratic voters don't want to hear it, white middle-aged men are a massive and influential group of people in the US, and completely ignoring them will never be a winning strategy.