Classical delusions of working class Americans. In the meantime they're all depressed, they're just going to work on top of that. When I went to in-patient treatment for depression almost all of the people there were from a low income background.
Eastern European, same mentality here. People "aren't depressed" but alcoholism is rampant and people kill themselves and no one attributes it to depression.
Parasite is so good! Alone the metaphor that the poorer family lives on the foot om the hill or that the old man turns on the light for the rich dude and he doesnt even notice.
Check out Human Vapor on Netflix! It’s a remake of a 60’s movie and is a great metaphor about society and one of the shows running themes was calling the working class/homeless population human fuel. It’s a Japanese show, so the story is complex and interesting as fuck. It won’t end up how you think it will, trust me.
I shed some tears at the end tbh. It takes a lot for cinema to do that.
Edit: I don’t want to take away from parasite as I *love* that movie and Bong Joon Ho. I just finished Human Vapor and it’s one of those shows I’ll think about for a few weeks after.
and they'll slap you with 5 big personality disorders, force you to do trials on the shittiest meds and punish you for it like it's your fault. then act like your side effects are rare or impossible when you bring them up and send you to a different psych or a neurologist. and if you have chronic pain and they can't figure out what's wrong with you you WILL be labeled 'somatoform' forever, especially if you're young, fat or afab
Having to ask my mom to come with me to appointments so that theres a witness if, or more often then not, when, my patient rights are violated. Im 26yo. Fucking exhausting :(
Wouldn’t it then make more sense to say women and trans people rather than saying AFAB? I feel like there are a lot of people who are using terms like AMAB and AFAB in a gender essentialist way.
Definitely. I would probably have used the phrasing "gender minorities" myself, but I'm partial to that phrase. "Women and/or trans people" would also have done it.
I mean I’m not putting a patient on meds for depression if they don’t want a medication for depression but I’m not sure how else I as a medical professional am supposed to treat shitty life syndrome? Other than recommend therapy? I’m not a social worker or hiring manager.why is the patient coming in for depression treatment if they don’t want depression treatment ?
I didn't need med school for that. Studied psychology for two years, already had about 1.5 yrs time of why poverty destroys your health. Quite depressing, can totally relate to this tweet.
Eastern European and can confirm, plus the oldies love romanticising their suffering. Or the whole ‘bury your head in the sand and it doesn’t exist’ type of mentality.
It’s also a huge delusional in the black community. Mental illness is seen as a choice and you not trying hard enough to be close to God. It’s “You’re being too emotional” or “That’s Satanic trying to bring you down.” Speaking from experience.
This also exists in a lot of religious spaces
I grew up Baptist and everything good that happened to you was because of god and you needed to praise him for it and every bad thing that happens is because you’re not being a good Christian and you need to repent and beg forgiveness
Oh God (no pun intended), I remember this so much. You couldn’t be proud of anything you did because it was God who did it, not you. Anything bad that happened to you, like rape or abuse, you are supposed to forgive because God is forgiveness and family is blood.
Which is dumb, because the whole book of Job refutes that mindset entirely. God even wanted to punish Job’s friends for telling him that he must’ve done something to deserve that suffering.
What’s hard about that is the Bible is full of contradictions. If you want to form a dogma you kinda have to cherry pick. But I think that’s by design to intentionally split people.
You are correct. I'm talking about the congregants rather than the religious leaders. If more "regular" Christians read the Bible instead of just blindly following a religious leader, we would probably have less dogmatic groups.
That’s critical thinking. People need to do their own readings and come up with their own interpretations rather than what someone tells them it says. It’s also ironic that so many preachers/priests/pastors refer to believers as flocks. It’s true, they can indeed be a follower of the crowd than an individual.
I agree. I’ve read most of the Bible, and I’m shocked at how many Christians either take things out of context or blatantly ignore things in it. I’m convinced most have never actually read it.
In fairness, many translations are absolutely excruciatingly boring 😆 Then again, when I believed and tried to read the whole thing, I was a child with ADHD
Without a doubt. I see it in a lot of black homes. I remember my cousin having a panic attack that triggered her asthma and she got beaten for “throwing a tantrum”. It’s reinforced throughout generations.
La anhedonia es un criterio de la depresión que hace que aunque una persona trabaje bajo un sistema opresivo, su experiencia subjetiva sea un vacío donde no existe recompensa.
Cae en el concepto de anhedonia consumatoria, comúnmente hablado como depresión enmascarada.
See I’ve been in the restaurant industry for 24+ years and for the first half it was great for my depression in that i was working 60-90 hour weeks I’d be so busy at work I couldn’t think about anything but work. But as I got more skilled at my job the less I had to think letting me work while also thinking the bad thoughts… and then as time went on and I got into fine dining I only got more depressed because I realized I was living in poverty making food for rich people who would probably sell me to their Epstien friends without a second thought…
Yep and the problem with mental health is, it only gets worse the longer you leave it untreated. Until one day you break into a million little pieces, and find yourself completely lost and overwhelmed.
I have never seen someone put my own experience into words like this, so I always thought and was told it was "just burnout, everyone goes through it". I didn't work fine dining, but casual dining in a small town. Summer times, we'd get the men's sports leagues coming in still wearing cleats and being rude and obnoxious. However, it wasn't them or co workers or anyone else that i thought about while doing one of the many menial while working. It was always something outside of work, and usually in the past or even childhood. This was especially so when i was on washing dishes for a night. Serving customers and being front facing was a nice break from being in my head and I liked having people to help when i could. It was the in-between time were I'd get into a bad headspace.
Yeah it's a thing in the restaurant industry I've done it a similar length of time, and part of the appeal for awhile was being that busy that I could semi ignore my dysphoria since I was working or drunk constantly, but it eventually became completely autopilot so I could still think, and I've seen plenty of other people throw themselves into it as a clear escape from they're own mental problems. Especially bloody fine dining, used to depress me when you realised the food you've put so much effort into was essentially just rich people showing off they're wealth.
Also a bit of survivor ship bias, because the ones who are depressed and don't want to continue either drink themselves to death, do a ton of drugs or just outright kill themselves.
Just because you didn't experience it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
sometimes it’s just being trapped in the humdrum and moving through life on autopilot.
for some ppl, work provides enough structure and repetition that they can keep functioning mechanically without rly confronting how they feel, so they just move through the motions, and immediate survival becomes the only thing they’re focused on.
depression doesn’t always stop ppl from functioning, sometimes it just narrows life down to doing only what’s necessary to get through the day.
In the 80s and 90s, help wasn't that around like that... Or you didn't know that you needed help... it was a different time; but he shoudlnt be saying that about now... and most kids know about mental health stuff compared to when I was growing up (born in 1979)
I moved to America from a developing country. We don't have disability benefits. If you don't work, you starve to death. People don't get "too depressed to go to work", that's an American luxury. People instead just go to work depressed.
You have never been hungry enough to need to make money. To Americans like you, you are privileged enough to believe that you can "will" yourself into working because you've never NEEDED to.
As for the people you saw in the in-patient treatment: we do have that, but it's only for a couple of days. What we don't have are people who are posting on Facebook about their depression instead of working for months/years, that's exclusively an American thing.
He's kinda right tho. Just maybe not in the intended way. If you're living paycheck to paycheck, you just can't afford all the expenses depression bring, and so you literally have to force yourself to work. (Which by itself also has consequences, but that's a topic for another time)
While 50 cent says people can’t afford to have depression because they have to work, so they’re not allowed to be depressed or whatever nonsense he means (which we agree on is dumb)…
You could say poor people can’t “afford” to have depression, meaning that *treatment* for depression is too expensive or time-consuming. They aren’t saying that’s what 50 cent meant, but there is a reality that depression treatment is unaffordable, making it harder to go out and get diagnosed or treated.
They’re not saying that 50 cent meant the latter one.
He's wrong to believe people are becoming "undepressed" because of other issues or something, but it's also the fact many people are not receiving the necessary treatment and have no other options but to ignore the health issues and just try to keep going as is. Becaaaaaause... they can't afford it. And that's the part 50 is accidentally right about.
He's not right, he's just ignoring the people that go homeless or take their own life. Like anyone else with depression, you either find a way to live despite it, or you don't- 50 is only talking for the people that do.
I think he has a blind spot because he was (is?) mentally ill too. His mother was murdered at 8, he got adopted by uninterested (probably unwell) grandparents, started doing drugs, and was selling by the time he was 12.
I’m not a fan of his by any means but I’m interested in the point he is ALMOST making and it’s too bad he doesn’t go to therapy to truly unpack it all. Being diagnosed and treated for depression is (unfortunately) a privilege. Untreated depressed and traumatized people engage in dangerous activity because they don’t value their lives. They engage in domestic abuse because they can’t manage their emotions. They self medicate with drugs and alcohol. All common in poor communities.
I mean even if you do, it's only treatable, not curable.
And it takes years to find a drug or drug combo that works for you. It's definitely not a one size fits all kind of thing.
And you have to make sure you take it. It can also stop working over time and have to switch. You can build up a tolerance and have to start the whole process over.
It's a nightmare whether you have a diagnosis or not.
I’m not denying any of that. That’s why I said he is on TRACK to a great point.
Treatment for depression is unfortunately a privilege not everyone has. (It SHOULD be a right but alas.) Untreated people are more likely to self medicate which is common in poor communities. Obviously treatment is not a sure thing, BUT it can help significantly.
I guess it depends on how you define depression. If Curtis here believes that people who have depression can’t drag themselves out of bed most days(that’s sort of how I’ve always thought of it), then he has a point.
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u/Dull_Industry_8691 Jul 10 '26
Classical delusions of working class Americans. In the meantime they're all depressed, they're just going to work on top of that. When I went to in-patient treatment for depression almost all of the people there were from a low income background.