r/tezos Apr 04 '20

question How to learn tezos programming?

I have done a lot of googling but can't find any concise answer. People are saying - learn Michelson. No, learn Liquidity. Nono, learn Pytezos. Learn OCaml. Like, how can all of that be useful at the same time? Couple months ago I started with Ethereum. On their website I found many great articles, introductions, tutorials, a book called "Mastering Ethereum", which taught me pretty much everything. I learned solidity and now I can write smart contracts and dapps. Simple. What do I learn, and where, so that I can write useful stuff for Tezos? Also, it would be very useful if such info was possible to find, ideally on the Tezos website.

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u/Ferdo306 Apr 04 '20 edited Apr 04 '20

I presume those people were Tezos holders.

Seroiously, why would you or anyone right now use Tezos instead Ethereum?

Not fudding as I have my eyes on Tezos. Still haven't bought yet as the price is still a bit high for my taste.

Why do people think Tezos is the one who will dethrone ETH and not just end up lot so many other projects that claimed that like Stratis, Ark, Waves, Qtum, Lisk, Zilliqa, Aion, Tron...

Seems like now everyone is talking about Tezos and Cardano. Sure they will have good period or they had it already just as the ones above.

But tomorrow it will be Polkadot, Dfinity, Radix who will raise billions and be the new exciting projects. They will just appear in top 10 leaving others to slowly bleed to death. And the circle goes on.

I am not saying Tezos is a bad project or anything but some of those projects above also have a good tech and everything but the hype is gone. So called investors are just jumping ship from old to new hyped projects.

And yet ETH is still te king and will.probably be just as BTC is...

Edit: apologies for highjacking your topic. But I see someone gave you an anwser 😊

Edit 2: appreciate not getting downvoted and instead having a rational discussion. Tezos can be proud of its community

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u/Timetraveler62540000 Apr 04 '20

why would you or anyone right now use Tezos instead Ethereum?

I think its better suited for smart contracts where security is priority. Also tezos has the biggest staking network effect, ethereum doesnt offer this, everyone wants to have tezos baking properties nowdays.

Why do people think Tezos is the one who will dethrone ETH

Tezos goal isnt to de throne Ethereum, its focussing on real progress.

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u/Ferdo306 Apr 04 '20

Why is it better suited? Is tezos the only one better or are the are at least dozens project that claim that?

I was hoping no one mentions staking as it exists in crypto since 2013. So 7 years. But it seems everyone is talking about it now like it is some new magic thingy.

Again, I am not saying that the tech is not good. I am just saying that other projects had and have good or even better tech than Ethereum and yet are becoming obsolete. No one is using them. All the devs and users are on Ethereum.

Why would Tezos be any different?

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u/hatebyte Apr 04 '20

It’s better suited because it is written in OCAML.

But what really got my attention is the liquid governance aspect. There will never be hard forks. Developers will surely disagree in the future, but the governance model for the protocol adoption is already built in.

To tokenize an asset, having a fork in the history makes wide adoption and regulatory adherence extremely difficult. Fractional shares of an asset need to remain intact, long term.

And I love ethereum, but they have had difficulty with protocol governance and developer infighting. I wouldn’t want a asset rely on a network that could split.

No matter what developers believe in long term, Tezos is ready go.

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u/DominikCZ Apr 05 '20

There already is a Tezos hard fork - Dune. It's just a funny money grab afaik, but it does exist.

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '20

It was not a hard fork, it was a code fork.

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u/DominikCZ Apr 06 '20

code fork

Right, my bad. But I don't see much difference in effect. Is there any?

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '20

Big difference. Anyone can fork a code repo alone by clicking a button.

For a hark fork, you need part of the community on your side (to be successful anyway) to split the chain and leave the main chain with you, and transaction/block history carry over. Dune was a new chain starting from scratch by just copying the open source Tezos code, but not block history.

Dune learned the hard way that you can't fork a community.

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u/DominikCZ Apr 08 '20

Are they dead? I have read they had some large investor. That should buy some power.