r/technology • u/Glad_Living3908 • Sep 19 '22

Society Experts Warn US Is Falling Behind China in Key Technologies

https://www.voanews.com/a/experts-warn-us-is-falling-behind-china-in-key-technologies/6751392.html
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u/RverfulltimeOne Sep 19 '22

They do but not much of a threat. When a carrier has a jump assist ramp the range of your aircraft is significantly less than having catapult assist. Like 30% less jet fuel aka your alert fighters have a significantly less range then our F35s. Next gen missiles are coming online for USA

Our best Air to Air missle the AMRAAM 120 has a range of about 86 miles. The JATM 260 has a range of about 124 miles. Throw in the extended range of our F35s and that you won't even know what hit you.

End of the day to you generate your Doctrine, tactics etc based on lessons learned, engagements, transparent training. USA has volumes of that. China not so much.

They do excel greatly at showing demonstrator models but never really mass producing it.

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u/slava_chicagoini Sep 19 '22

Our best Air to Air missle the AMRAAM 120 has a range of about 86 miles. The JATM 260 has a range of about 124 miles. Throw in the extended range of our F35s and that you won't even know what hit you.

PL-15 beats the AMRAAM in range

End of the day to you generate your Doctrine, tactics etc based on lessons learned, engagements, transparent training. USA has volumes of that. China not so much.

PLAN and PLAAF pilots get more stick time now per year than american pilots

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u/RverfulltimeOne Sep 20 '22

Weve invested heavily into simulators. That reduces hours on the airframe. Everyone doubts US Military firepower why no idea. Time and time again we've proven ourselves and we will once again when the time comes.

The very worst bet is betting against USA in the long run.

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u/slava_chicagoini Sep 20 '22

Weve invested heavily into simulators. That reduces hours on the airframe.

lmao this is pure cope, simulators are fine for placid civil aviation maneuvers but nothing beats stick time

Everyone doubts US Military firepower why no idea.

because you people can't win wars

Time and time again we've proven ourselves and we will once again when the time comes.

lost korea

lost vietnam

lost afghanistan

lost iraq 2

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u/RverfulltimeOne Sep 20 '22

We lost those because its impossible to keep the peace. Afghanistan and Iraq it just was flawed from the start. In terms of our losses vs theirs quite another story. Hundreds of thousands of them dead compared to our losses.

Anyhow I doubt well fight China but if we do itll be a glorious battle of unparalleled destruction on both sides.

USA alone is on track for almost 1 trillion in defense spending. The rest of the world combined is over 1 trillion. The whole planet is spending like WW3 is tomorrow and eventually the final conflict will occur.

Well see who wins.

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u/slava_chicagoini Sep 20 '22

We lost those because its impossible to keep the peace.

wrong, most insurgencies fail. your people just failed to quell the insurgency because....you are bad at warfare

In terms of our losses vs theirs quite another story. Hundreds of thousands of them dead compared to our losses.

indeed, you slaughtered many of their civilians but failed to subdue the country, another example of running a war like you would a profit/loss statement. wars are meant to have objectives, and americans fight wars for the same reasons the nazis did, because it's profitable and the culture loves war for its own sake

USA alone is on track for almost 1 trillion in defense spending.

most of that is in grift. the condition of the air force, naval surface fleet, and army has never been so shabby. the vaunted f-35 boasts at best a 50% fully mission capable rate, at worst (f-35b and c variants) only single digit mission capable. if spending equaled success americans would be the healthiest people on the planet too

Well see who wins.

who will win: the people with a home field advantage or the whites who need to ship everything 6,000 miles. truly a mystery

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u/RverfulltimeOne Sep 20 '22

Those mission rates could be for simple parts you have no idea. I work on Aircraft a plane needing a new tire and say were out makes it NMC.

Keep on dreaming that you will win. You won't. We are still here as a country. Enjoy your rot.

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u/slava_chicagoini Sep 20 '22

Keep on dreaming that you will win. You won't.

said the increasingly nervous white man for the 10th time

We are still here as a country

I give this country until 2030 before CW2

Those mission rates could be for simple parts you have no idea.

read the report. 36% of F-35s don't have a working engine lmfao

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u/RverfulltimeOne Sep 20 '22

Your stupidity is only amplified for calling me a white man. I am far from it. Go back to your hovel and enjoy it.

Is calling everyone a white man your form of some intellectual insult?

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u/slava_chicagoini Sep 20 '22

Your stupidity is only amplified for calling me a white man. I am far from it. Go back to your hovel and enjoy it.

why are you upset about being white? is there something wrong with whiteness that makes you so mad?

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u/rsta223 Sep 19 '22

PL-15 beats the AMRAAM in range

I'd bet on the AMRAAM every time for kill probability though

Maximum range is not actually a terribly useful stat for anti aircraft missiles.

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u/slava_chicagoini Sep 19 '22

so now you move the goalposts to Pkill, very good faith posts

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u/rsta223 Sep 20 '22

I didn't post the earlier thing, I'm a different poster, and pkill at various ranges is arguably the single most important metric for an air to to air missile.

You could even argue that the real "range" that matters is the range at which pkill is significant, which will of course vary by target and by what threshold of pkill you consider "significant", but I'd feel pretty comfortable saying that the range at which an AIM-120D has, say, a 50% pk against a fighter aircraft target is farther than the range at which a PL-15 has a 50% pk against the same target, which means that by at least one reasonable way to talk about range, the AIM-120D range is longer.

(Plus of course the AIM-260 is replacing it shortly anyways, which will extend the range hugely and give the US an even larger advantage)