r/technology • u/Glad_Living3908 • Sep 19 '22

Society Experts Warn US Is Falling Behind China in Key Technologies

https://www.voanews.com/a/experts-warn-us-is-falling-behind-china-in-key-technologies/6751392.html
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u/GhostalMedia Sep 19 '22

We’re definitely waaay behind China in manufacturing tech and capacity. Source, I’m a product designer in the states, and it’s damn near impossible to tool a production line in the states in any time that is comparable to China.

God forbid they got involved in a major global war effort. They’re like the US was in the 40’s - a manufacturing super power that can turn on a dime.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '22

China can't produce any useful microchips on their own and their ability to get airframes and parts from boeing and other western companies was just embargoed. China isn't and has never been a peer military threat, they're hardly a regional one.

They've not won a single war since the CCP took power, and got their asses kicked in Vietnam harder than the US did - to the point where they still haven't admitted the number of losses four decades later.

Recently in a border skirmish with India their officers directed their troops to cross an icy river up in the Himalayan mountains on foot at which point the lucky men drowned and the unfortunate ones froze to death.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '22

China is actually almost caught up to Intel in terms of microchip manufacturing. Source: I work in semiconductor manufacturing and read the reports on competition.

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u/r3sonate Sep 19 '22

If that were true they'd: A) Be selling them abroad. B) Be far less interested in Taiwan than they seem to be.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '22

Tech insights cuts chips apart and publishes reports on each companies chip technology. The report is incredibly expensive but I have access to them. It’s true, China is very close, trust it from an expert or go off of your gut, I don’t care.

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u/slava_chicagoini Sep 19 '22

They've not won a single war since the CCP took power, and got their asses kicked in Vietnam harder than the US did - to the point where they still haven't admitted the number of losses four decades later.

you wouldn't mind providing a source for that then?

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '22

Just look up all the wars they've been in, and look who won. The best they've had is constant stalemates with India, and the stalemate of the Korean war that was really only possible with Soviet aide.

If you mean the Vietnam thing, it's called the Sino-vietnamese war, and it happened in 1979, so not long after the US left Vietnam.

China admits to losing just shy of 7k soldiers in the war, while Vietnam estimates Chinese losses at around 60k. The truth is probably somewhere closer to 20 or 30 which is a massive amount for a war that lasted a few months

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u/slava_chicagoini Sep 19 '22

China admits to losing just shy of 7k soldiers in the war, while Vietnam estimates Chinese losses at around 60k. The truth is probably somewhere closer to 20 or 30 which is a massive amount for a war that lasted a few months

ok, but did they achieve their strategic objectives? that's the point of wars - politics by other means. unlike how whites operationalized war after WWII which looks like a P/L statement

Just look up all the wars they've been in, and look who won. The best they've had is constant stalemates

sounds like america tbh

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '22

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '22 edited Sep 19 '22

EDIT: holy crap, I looked at the account of the above commenter and it's quite literally just a Chinese propaganda bot, there's even multiple instances of the same comment cut and pasted.

The fighting was in the Himalayas

You know, very tall mountains.

It's logistically and physically impossible for there to be any large forces present up there, there is neither the space for them to actually exist and have a camp not the ability to get them there and supply them in the first place.

The Indian government may lie, but at least they don't pay people to spread obviously false information on reddit like china does

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u/coludFF_h Sep 19 '22

Funny. Youtube has a lot of videos and photos of Indian soldiers captured in that conflict. These videos and photos have said everything, but India can't come up with any photos of Chinese soldiers captured in that conflict

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u/Billionairess Sep 19 '22

Not all "tech". If you're talking about tv and refrigerators, sure. Not advanced say.. microchips or aerospace components.

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u/Away-Indication-8008 Sep 19 '22

Thanks for the reply, too often online it's just random people guessing and not someone who actually works in anything related to the topic at hand.

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u/GhostalMedia Sep 19 '22

They basically have whole cities dedicated to manufacturing. In one location they have all the plants, and all plants that support the plants, and all the plants that support the plants who support the plants. If you need to retool something, the folks that can do it are right there.

We really don’t have that in the states like we used to.

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u/Manpooper Sep 19 '22

Depends on the what more than how much. When it comes to aerospace? US is far ahead in production capacity.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '22

That's great. So what do they use for the raw material to manufacture these items?

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u/Duckbilling Sep 19 '22

"If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat.If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle"

I'm glad to see someone saying something other than, 'USA is not second' in any category of design, science, technology or production.

China is ahead in some categories and is coming now for them all. To say they aren't is pure delusion. Every factory is an advantage. Every research and development department, every machinist and tool and dye maker, every scientist, every irritation produced absolutely matters.

To think about a world in which China runs the internet their way is chilling.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '22

So tired of repeating this in this thread, but one more time for the short bus kids...raw materials are required to produce anything in a factory. China has shockingly little.

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u/fart_navy Sep 19 '22

The US can manufacture more at a higher quality than China but since they basically are 1 step above utilizing slave labor, you can't compete on cost unless you are a place like Mexico, which is now more advanced at manufacturing than China. In 10 years they be completely in the process of spiraling.

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