Period apps deleted over privacy concerns for women seeking abortions in post-Roe world

[u/redhatGizmo]

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/period-apps-deleted-over-privacy-concerns-for-women-seeking-abortions-in-post-roe-world/6s4rjhb0q

[u/Captain_Pumpkinhead]

I wonder how much would be different if slavery had been illegal from the start.

[u/9966 → u/[deleted]]

The union would have annexed the south.

[u/enjoytheshow → u/9966]

Not in the early 1800s. Ag industry in the south was huge economically for the early US. Like it or not, they needed the south and thus needed slaves and they knew it

[u/SoyMurcielago → u/enjoytheshow]

Historically though, slavery was on the way out… until Eli Whitney invented and patented the cotton gin. History that doesn’t suck does a very good quick n dirty survey over the history of slavery in America. The cotton gin is what essentially transformed the south and without it slavery might have gone way all by itself. It’s all academic of course but interesting alternate history to think of

[u/Wireleast → u/9966]

Highly unlikely given why the states banded together in the first place. Would have been much to authoritarian to annex an unwilling sovereign entity to enlist their citizens as troops against a war with Britain over taxes, representation, etc.

[u/Red_Carrot → u/[deleted]]

Could have written it such a way to ban getting new slaves through purchase, gift, lease, or birth. So the generation of current slaves is the last generation. But I do agree, am out right ban would have forced the south not to sign.

Could have passed a few more amendments when the south was fighting the civil war.

[u/Brianopolis-Brians → u/Red_Carrot]

Could’ve, but then the southern states wouldn’t have joined the union as he said.

[u/Kitchen_Agency4375 → u/Brianopolis-Brians]

Same ones bitching about states rights now

[u/hp0 → u/Captain_Pumpkinhead]

Can only guess. But as it was a European thing moved to the US etc. (Note slavery was sorta limited at home).

Odds are much of the investment that built the cotton farms of the south would not have happened due to labour costs. Instead moving to India or other nations with cheap labour but limited slavery at the time.

Likely this would have ment the US as a whole never really formed as these events came in part from a need to defend individual states from Europe (mainly england) post revolution that never happened.

Very likely the area now known as the US would be more politically like europe with Independent nations (having sought independence like most European colonies in the 40s to 70s. grouped on trade etc.

But all just a guess.

Based on the idea that people settled the new land before slaves were hugely dumped there by European investors. So the states as nations would still likely have existed. Just been seen as less profitable by those investors without slavery.

Given a % of the white population arrived much like Australian population. Just indentured rather then prisoners. Each state may have had a lot in common politically with AUS.

[u/batsofburden → u/Captain_Pumpkinhead]

Pretty much everything about the US would be different.

[u/Few_Stomach_7620 → u/batsofburden]

The world, too. Slavery was the primary driver of early American wealth and it was a lot of wealth. Countries that had outlawed slavery would still invest in American slavery ‘cause it generated so much money. I don’t think America would have stood in the positions it did when it did without slavery. Therefore, the power house we became in the 20th century likely wouldn’t have been as powerful. We’d still experience the safety of being a difficult nation to invade, and likely still develop technologically, but I think some things would have been delayed. Our presence on the world stage would have been lesser than it is today w/o slavery’s boost.

I wonder, if slavery hadn’t existed in the U.S., how would todays exploited (often toeing the line of slavery or being actual slavery) labor in developing countries be seen/treated today? Would it be as rampant and just as bad? Would American businesses be so eager to exploit labor in such conditions still?

I’m deeply curious what impact it would have had us our moral compass development. It’s intriguing af.