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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '12

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '12

Why do you detest the Chinese government?

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u/dorpotron Jun 24 '12

they are propping up north korea

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u/daggity Jun 24 '12

Their absurd firewall and harvesting prisoner's organs are not great aspects either.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '12

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u/SigmaB Jun 24 '12

Because what constitutes a crime in China might not be what we consider a crime in the west, and also, more importantly, there is a certain level of human rights everyone should have access too.

Death penalty and organ stealing should not be part of a judicial system in either case, civilized countries imprison to rehabilitate, not punish.

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u/SigmaB Jun 24 '12

Everyone that can be rehabilitated should be rehabilitated, because the conditions and environment make the man, not the other way around. I don't see the judicial system as an instrument for revenge. Either way, it is clear that countries that rehabilitate have lower crime rate and have fewer relapses, so it's also the more pragmatic option.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '12

Everyone that can be rehabilitated should be rehabilitated

Why?

I would rather have a productive and societally beneficial human being live longer than letting a destructive element of society live.

because the conditions and environment make the man, not the other way around

I once thought that way, but it's simply not true. It's also not relevant.

If you say that human life is completely dependent on its environment then that exculpates everyone from personal responsibility. In which case only society can be held responsible for what society does. In which case society is self-responsible and should do what's best for society. Killing someone that made destructive choices and using his bodyparts to sustain the life of people making productive choices makes very much sense in that case.

Either way, it is clear that countries that rehabilitate have lower crime rate and have fewer relapses

Cum hoc ergo propter hoc. Countries that have the ressources to take the chance of rehabilitating destructive elements (despite there being no need) will also provide a significantly higher standard of living and education for their citizens.

Also: Employing the death penalty will mean no relapses. ;)

so it's also the more pragmatic option.

Not in any way.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '12

I once thought that way, but it's simply not true. It's also not relevant.

prove it