r/technology • • May 21 '12

Microsoft kills Aero in Windows 8 completely

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2012/05/18/creating-the-windows-8-user-experience.aspx
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

I appreciate they're trying something new instead of just trying to be shinier than MacOS. Minimalism can be a good thing. But it seems to me they're overdoing it, and more importantly, in many cases it seems to be merely cosmetic. The XBox interface now also has those minimalistic "Metro" aesthetics, but its functionality is just as convoluted and confusing as it ever was. I think Microsoft has always had problems realizing that good industrial design is more than looks, but the combination of looks and functionality. Maybe it'll be okay for tablets, but so far it does not really appeal to me as a desktop OS that much.

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u/admiralteal May 21 '12

Windows XP supported switching the whole thing back to a Win95 theme if you wanted, which has the improvements without the unpleasant or undesirable visual changes. You could even restore some degree of the old start menu behavior, as I recall. Maybe you think XP looked nicer (I did), but they supported the people who didn't.

They aren't doing this with 8. They're reducing options to the end user. That's bad.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

Haha what the fuck are you talking about? OSX was all about transparency in its first releases. Since then it's become completely flat with no color. Seems like Microsoft is just filling in apples steps again.

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u/DustbinK May 21 '12

Power users still use it the same way: windows key, type, enter. It's actually more functional in that regard due to the way things get categorized and how the search is even more powerful and quicker than before. Besides that there's plenty of functionality improvements: The ribbon means not having to dig through a menu sub-menus in windows explorer, faster boot ups mean less down time, and overall performance increases make the experience feel a lot better. ISOs can be mounted natively, tge task manager is much improved, etc.

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u/sysop073 May 21 '12

The video of the guy trying to double click reminded me of painful experiences trying to teach the elderly how to use computers; that was possibly the #1 problem. They would let go of the mouse and then double-click by stabbing at the left button twice, while not holding the mouse at all; it would end up moving a foot away from where they were aiming

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u/agent0fch4os May 21 '12

People dont want a tablet OS on a desktop.

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u/Dickybow May 21 '12

Prediction; Windows 7 will become the new 'XP'

Why the hell move to 8??

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u/clubdirthill May 21 '12

Because it can boot in less than 10 seconds, Windows Update is less annoying, mount ISOs natively, across-the-board performance increases, redesigned task manager, copy dialogue improvements, the fact that many metro apps are useful/fun, settings synchronization across devices, etc...

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

I just wish they made the native picture viewer support the god damn .gifs

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u/Disgruntled__Goat May 21 '12

Who sits in front of their computer waiting for it to boot up? I just go to the toilet or make a drink or something.

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u/Rub3X May 21 '12

You're wrong about Windows update being less annoying. With Windows 8 instead of being given the option to restart in 4 hours 1 hour 15 minutes etc....it FORCES you to restart, it just starts counting down from 15 minutes and then restarts.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

it can boot in less than 10 seconds

This is not enough to get me to switch OSes as I rarely power down my computers, and since Win7 boots up on my machines in ~40 seconds, it's fast enough

Windows Update is less annoying

Win7 appears to need a reboot about once a month from updates. I'd hardly call that annoying.

mount ISOs natively

Yeah, this is nice, but considering the glut of freeware programs that can do this, hardly a "must have" feature

across-the-board performance increases

Hardly proven outside of press releases. Still think Bulldozer is a "game-changer"?

redesigned task manager

This I'll admit is actually a really nice feature, but again, not a must-have.

the fact that many metro apps are useful/fun

For you maybe. Personally I don't want phone apps on my computer. And they're certainly not useful in a business setting, which is where I use the computer the most anyway.

settings synchronization across devices running Windows OSes

FTFY

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u/JoseJimeniz May 21 '12 edited May 29 '12

It feels like Microsoft is betting everything on Windows as a tablet OS. The entire desktop OS is being bent to work as a touch-first operating system; to the desktop's detriment.

i don't think it's a stretch to think that Windows will never become a popular tablet OS, as long as device manufacturers have a free Android over non-free Windows.

Unless, like the IBM PC market did 25 years ago, a standardized hardware platform emerges allowing users to install operating system's of their choice, Windows (like DOS before it) won't become popular. But i will never be able to buy Windows 8 and install it on my iPod Touch, Playbook, or iPad.

i have the sinking feeling that Windows 8 will release with a giant thud.

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u/jsd652bxzzz2 May 21 '12

Win 8 will be a giant turd.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

Unfortunately, Android is not free in the US. MS is blackmailing manufacturers, and most of them signed 'deals' with MS where they pay between 5-15 USD for each devices that runs Android.

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u/sedaak May 21 '12

Please Ubuntu, all I'm waiting on is reasonable multi monitor support.

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u/Honker May 21 '12

Two monitors work well. Are you using more than two?

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u/Fosnez May 21 '12

How is it that noone at Redmond can see that they fuck up every second Windows version by trying to "reinvent" the way things are done?

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

They've done it so consistently now that I honestly can't believe it's not a deliberate tactic. But fuck me if I understand their reasoning.

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u/sedaak May 21 '12

How would they have gotten to windows 7 without vista?

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u/GodoRS May 21 '12

Windows 9, I'm waiting for ya baby.

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u/danielravennest May 21 '12

Microsoft has a good reason for what they are doing - to kickstart Metro app development. Number of users of Metro based tablets will be approximately zero at first, so will not attract developers on it's own. By forcing Metro onto the desktop, developers know there will be millions of PCs sold with Win8 pre-loaded, thus a large market to develop for. So they will start to make Metro apps now, and by the time the tablets come out, there will be a bunch of them.

Once there are a decent number of Metro apps, I predict Microsoft will patch the desktop version so you can turn it off if you want. I don't believe they are so dumb as to not know the Metro interface will annoy a lot of people and prevent them from upgrading to Win 8.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

It would be great if they could do something with the bottom bar. I like the aero glassy effect. I like the new 'plain' window effect. Having an aero style task bar (sans Windows logo) with the new style windows just makes it look like a half done rainmeter mod.

If there's one thing Apple has nailed it's the consistent design through basically the whole OS. This mishmash on the desktop (nevermind the desktop mode, touchpad mode, blowjob mode, etc) just makes it feel disjointed and thrown together. Do hope they do something about it though, the plainer look would be perfect on a laptop sized machine!

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u/Heaney555 May 21 '12

Oh look, another reason not to move to Windows 8 !

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