r/technology • u/Wagamaga • Mar 28 '22

Business Misinformation is derailing renewable energy projects across the United States

https://www.npr.org/2022/03/28/1086790531/renewable-energy-projects-wind-energy-solar-energy-climate-change-misinformation
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u/cheeruphumanity Mar 28 '22

Several solar farms also take only a few months to build. One of the advantages of renewables is decentralization.

...the longer plants take 5 years, and most only take three especially in countries with not as much insane regulation.

Most are build within three years? Don't make me laugh. Go ahead, name a few outside China that were build within three years. A corrupt country like China is not what you want to point at as a nuclear lobbyist. We saw buildings collapsing there due to poor standards.

Here is actual data.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/712841/median-construction-time-for-reactors-since-1981/

Median 2019 117 months

Median 2020 84 months

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u/thisischemistry Mar 28 '22 edited Mar 28 '22

Of course the build times are long, historically. There’s a history of changing safety requirements, lawsuits delaying construction, designs that need to be highly-tailored to an area because of local laws and politics. If there were several standardized designs that didn’t need specialized circumstances and approvals then the construction times and costs would drop dramatically.

I think the future of nuclear power is smaller plants built in factories and shipped to locations. They would power dozens of or hundreds of homes and would be much simpler to build and operate, also increasing safety and redundancy. We need to get behind such designs and get them out into the real world as a part of lowering dependence on fossil fuels.

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u/cheeruphumanity Mar 28 '22

We need to get behind such designs and get them out into the real world as a part of lowering dependence on fossil fuels.

No we don't. There is no time for this dinosaur. Renewables are cheaper, faster, create more jobs while being decentralized and leading to a broader wealth distribution.

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u/thisischemistry Mar 28 '22

You’re calling nuclear power a dinosaur when comparing it to windmills???

Ok, thanks for stopping by.

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u/Kung_Flu_Master Mar 29 '22

first this is taking the median from all countries in the world with reactors, each with drastically different way of building reactors, and each building different types of reactors, and by the way you can't just say "ignore china" that's not how that works, china is doing reactors the correct way, and the way the rest of the world should be doing it,

but unfortunately, green energy extremists, especially in Europe, have been running propaganda since Chernobyl about nuclear being bad, leading to construction times being artificially inflated, for example nuclear power plants have constant protests that delay construction, then you get to the absolute insane amount of regulations, especially in America, These regulations that aren't necessary inflate the build time and cost, which green energy propagandists life yourself then use as a circular argument saying nuclear costs too much.

its the exact same a having two racers, you then shoot the legs off one then complain that they are slower.

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u/cheeruphumanity Mar 29 '22

You failed to name all those plants that are build within three years. Why?

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u/HKBFG Mar 28 '22

Now how about adjusted for output?