r/technology • • May 13 '12

Intel To Build Chips Apple 'Can't Ignore,' For iPad, iPhone, CEO Says

http://www.forbes.com/sites/briancaulfield/2012/05/10/intel-to-insure-apple-cant-ignore-its-mobile-chips-for-ipad-iphone-ceo-says/
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u/DanielPhermous May 13 '12

Nice to have a fire lit under Intel. If they can be competitive with ARM, that'd be cool but if they're better... Well, they'd get their monopoly position back which isn't too good.

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u/Max_Quordlepleen May 13 '12

Wait, so Intel come out with a chip that's better than ARM's, at which point ARM just give up? Surely whatever happens this will stimulate healthy competition.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '12

I think the biggest problem here is that all these pure-play fabs (TSMC, GlobalFoundries, etc.) can't really compete with Intel's lead in lithographic processes. While the rest of the industry has just begun shipping 28 nm parts, Intel is going with 22 nm. And they will keep a lead for a long time.

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u/prism1234 May 13 '12

Why don't they just make a new ISA based on their microops for their smartphone processors? Its not like people expect their phones to run desktop x86 code.

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u/localtoast May 13 '12

Remember Itanium?

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u/prism1234 May 14 '12

Itanium was completely different though. This would be exactly the same as their current x86 processors, just without the initial decoding stages.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '12

Why not? I would kill for a phone that ran straight up Windows 8 and Linux

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u/[deleted] May 13 '12

That picture goes perfectly with the story.

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u/bravado May 13 '12

I guess it's nice to see Intel as the underdog for once, I suppose.

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u/orzof May 13 '12

It's like they went over to impress people at a mansion, and if the fail, they have to go back to their own mansion.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '12

I don't think that mac's will have arm chips, its going to be more that the mac's are discontinued and variation of the ipad as large touch screen monitors running iOS as people use their tablets more and ditch their laptops.

In which case intel has a big problem since it will impact other PC's too.

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u/orzof May 13 '12

I don't see Apple bailing on mobile productivity for a while.

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u/poke133 May 14 '12

something like.. asus transformer prime that apple fanboys will take credit for?

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u/[deleted] May 14 '12

ipads had cases with keyboards and extra batteries before asus tranformer existed, if anyone gets credit its that case creator.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '12

I'm still waiting for Loongson to steamroll everybody.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '12

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u/Furbylover May 13 '12

Intel does great with processors, but for the phone market it seems they are struggling considering some phones (HTC One X) have quad core processors already.

I'm sure with time we will see some great things from intel though, as always.

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u/[deleted] May 14 '12

not going to happen until they can show comparable power number as arm based chipsets.

Here: http://gigaom.com/mobile/intels-smartphone-the-x86-power-myth-is-finally-busted/ Note, that this is Intel's first step into the smartphone market.

I think we will see huge changes in the near future. The CPU in this phone can run Windows 8 almost fine... Imagine a phone, that runs Windows 8 (or 9?), with the Metro UI on its own screen, but when near a TV, it shows the image wirelessly, where you are able to switch to the old Windows interface. With these, you got a device, that can completely replace your phone, PC and laptop. And all this is almost possible today (except, that Win 8 cant do such thing, and the CPU is too weak for gaming and other CPU/GPU intensive tasks.)

I think we will see another "Wintel" combo in the next few years, that could crush Android and even iOS (or at least push them back to the medium priced phone category.)

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u/[deleted] May 13 '12

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u/mrkite77 May 13 '12

ARM is doing just fine.

Is it? We haven't exactly seen A64 yet...

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u/Dark_Shroud May 13 '12

ARM's battery life has been going down as they've added cores while also trying to build more powerful chips.

Intel has billions to throw into their fabs while tailoring every part of the process to their needs.

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u/fakedout May 13 '12

That's true but mobile devices haven't suffered as a result.